On 5/7/15 3:05 AM, Mark Tinka wrote:
And this is what sales and marketing droids don't get - so-called
"Premium Internet" products abound that don't really mean anything.
The competition that offer these products are basically hoping nothing
happens, and that when it does, it seems as palatable
] on behalf of Mike Hammett
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Subject: Re: IP DSCP across the Internet
That sounds like a rather poor implementation. What if they had more than one
VoIP call?
Seems like this thread has more FUD than real examples.
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Mike
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Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 4:32:52 AM
Subject: Re: IP DSCP across the Internet
On Wed, 6 May 2015, Mark Tinka wrote:
> With color-aware policing toward a customer in Uganda, any traffic
> coming from that peer in South Af
On 7/May/15 11:12, James Bensley wrote:
>
>
> This.
>
> You can't really put SLAs on traffic that has to egress/ingress the
> Internet, if you try to you're asking for trouble, so we simply remark
> to 0 on all inbound traffic.
And this is what sales and marketing droids don't get - so-called
"P
On Wed, 6 May 2015, Mark Tinka wrote:
With color-aware policing toward a customer in Uganda, any traffic
coming from that peer in South Africa was getting dropped toward that
customer in Uganda. After a very odd sequence of troubleshooting events,
we found that the AF DSCP alues being set by t
On 6 May 2015 at 03:27, Blake Dunlap wrote:
> If there isn't a specific peering agreement which sets up DSCP marks
> with your Z side, you're going to have a bad time doing anything other
> than remarking to 0.
>
> -Blake
This.
You can't really put SLAs on traffic that has to egress/ingress the
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Subject: Re: IP DSCP across the Internet
On 5/May/15 12:27, Ramy Hashish wrote:
> Good day all,
>
> A simple question, does Internet trust IP DSCP marking? Assume two ASs
> connected through two tier 1 networks, will the tier one networks trust any
> DSCP markings d
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Subject: Re: IP DSCP across the Internet
On 5/May/15 12:27, Ramy Hashish wrote:
> Good day all,
>
> A simple question, does Internet trust IP DSCP marking? Assume two ASs
> connected through two tier 1 networks, will the tier one networks trust any
> DSCP markings d
On 6 May 2015, at 8:22, Joel Mulkey wrote:
> But don't trust that's going to be the rule.
Yes, that's always the caveat.
Just do what you can within your own span of administrative control.
---
Roland Dobbins
But don't trust that's going to be the rule. I recently had a situation where
traffic across a congested public peering link between 2 large "tier-2"
carriers was honoring DSCP, resulting in some unexpected inconsistent behavior.
Joel Mulkey
Founder and CEO
Bigleaf Networks
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> We don't honor DSCP values that comes in via best-effort circuits
> (i.e., the Internet). Although not a very strong reason, this
> particular experience is one reason why.
trusting markings of any sort which you do not need is an increase in
attack, game playing, and/or bug surface. the only t
On 6/May/15 03:35, Tim Jackson wrote:
> In general there are very few bad actors here in regards to
> trusting/accepting/using DSCP across the internet.
>
> Apple has a tendency to mark some traffic with EF that shouldn't be EF on
> PNIs, and Cogent leaks a lot of their internal markings into cus
On 5/May/15 12:27, Ramy Hashish wrote:
> Good day all,
>
> A simple question, does Internet trust IP DSCP marking? Assume two ASs
> connected through two tier 1 networks, will the tier one networks trust any
> DSCP markings done from an AS to the other?
I wouldn't bet on it.
Some providers hono
If there isn't a specific peering agreement which sets up DSCP marks
with your Z side, you're going to have a bad time doing anything other
than remarking to 0.
-Blake
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Tim Jackson wrote:
> In general there are very few bad actors here in regards to
> trusting/acce
In general there are very few bad actors here in regards to
trusting/accepting/using DSCP across the internet.
Apple has a tendency to mark some traffic with EF that shouldn't be EF on
PNIs, and Cogent leaks a lot of their internal markings into customers, but
it's generally unmarked traffic from
On 5 May 2015, at 17:27, Ramy Hashish wrote:
Assume two ASs connected through two tier 1 networks, will the tier
one networks trust any DSCP markings done from an AS to the other?
The BCP is to re-color on ingress.
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Roland Dobbins
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