Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Owen DeLong
On Mar 7, 2012, at 2:55 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 07/03/2012 10:31, Saku Ytti wrote: >> But again, I don't think crappy or good CLI is very important matter, when >> using systems. > > it isn't - if you're large enough that you have an automated provisioning > system. Most of us aren't in t

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Jack Bates
On 3/7/2012 1:08 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:22:56 CST, Jack Bates said: ]undo ssh server compatible-ssh1x enable Ouch. That's brutal. Is it true that setting isn't listed under 'display ssh server status'? ]ssh server compat enable ]display ssh server status

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 10:22:56 CST, Jack Bates said: > ]undo ssh server compatible-ssh1x enable Ouch. That's brutal. Is it true that setting isn't listed under 'display ssh server status'? pgpMgrleE80ON.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Jack Bates
On 3/7/2012 9:32 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: I liked how ssh is secure-telnet, took bit head scratching to enable ssh. That is, of course, incorrect; there is actually a "secure telnet"; ISTR it's telnet-over-ssl? How do you enable SSH then? It may be incorrect terminology, but it is actually ssh

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Aled Morris
On 7 March 2012 15:25, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Saku Ytti" > > > On (2012-03-07 09:46 -), Tim Franklin wrote: > > > This does occasionally brighten up my day with gems like "rip no > > > work" and "reset-recycle-bin", so it's not all bad :) > > > > I like

RE: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Leigh Porter
> -Original Message- > From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com] > Sent: 07 March 2012 15:28 > To: NANOG > Subject: Re: Huawei edge routers.. > > - Original Message - > > From: "Saku Ytti" > > > On (2012-03-07 09:46 -), Ti

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Saku Ytti" > On (2012-03-07 09:46 -), Tim Franklin wrote: > > This does occasionally brighten up my day with gems like "rip no > > work" and "reset-recycle-bin", so it's not all bad :) > > I liked how ssh is secure-telnet, took bit head scratching to ena

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Jack Bates
On 3/7/2012 4:55 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: it isn't - if you're large enough that you have an automated provisioning system. Most of us aren't in that category though, and for those who aren't, it's the L3 tech people who will be doing the product evaluation and who will end up loathing the kit

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 07/03/2012 10:31, Saku Ytti wrote: > But again, I don't think crappy or good CLI is very important matter, when > using systems. it isn't - if you're large enough that you have an automated provisioning system. Most of us aren't in that category though, and for those who aren't, it's the L3 te

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-03-07 09:46 -), Tim Franklin wrote: > This does occasionally brighten up my day with gems like "rip no work" and > "reset-recycle-bin", so it's not all bad :) I liked how ssh is secure-telnet, took bit head scratching to enable ssh. But again, I don't think crappy or good CLI is ver

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Leigh Porter
On 7 Mar 2012, at 09:48, "Tim Franklin" wrote: >> On the other hand, if you hop into other people's Huawei >> routers via CLI you will curse and scream. As close as I >> could tell, it handles most functionality of IOS, but >> they tried to find a synonym for every word cisco used >> in the cli.

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-07 Thread Tim Franklin
> On the other hand, if you hop into other people's Huawei > routers via CLI you will curse and scream. As close as I > could tell, it handles most functionality of IOS, but > they tried to find a synonym for every word cisco used > in the cli. This does occasionally brighten up my day with gems l

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-06 Thread Jack Bates
On 3/6/2012 3:41 PM, Jonathon Exley wrote: I last played with Huawei routers about 10 years ago and it looked very much like IOS. Interesting that they have changed. Also interesting that you don't like Alcatel's TiMOS - I prefer it to IOS, and find it comparable to Junos. I suppose we all have

RE: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-06 Thread Jonathon Exley
Jonathon -Original Message- From: Jack Bates [mailto:jba...@brightok.net] Sent: Wednesday, 7 March 2012 5:51 a.m. To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Huawei edge routers.. On 3/6/2012 4:20 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > I've not looked if they do netconf or whatnot, but that wasn't really > my

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-06 Thread Jack Bates
On 3/6/2012 4:20 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: I've not looked if they do netconf or whatnot, but that wasn't really my point. My point was, your system doesn't complain to you daily that working with huawei CLI is more annoying than IOS. On the other hand, if you hop into other people's Huawei router

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-03-06 11:05 +0100), Bjørn Mork wrote: > > do without docs. On paper they look fine, CLI is worse than IOS, but > > honestly if CLI is critical to you, you're probably doing something wrong > > anyhow (meaning, systems should be touching routers, not people) > > Hmm, we have systems usin

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-06 Thread Bjørn Mork
Saku Ytti writes: > I've not really used them much, I think I've just configured enough to get > 6VPE working, and it worked (against CSCO and JNPR) and was easy enough to > do without docs. On paper they look fine, CLI is worse than IOS, but > honestly if CLI is critical to you, you're probably

Re: Huawei edge routers..

2012-03-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-03-06 09:24 +), Leigh Porter wrote: > Has anybody had any experience of Huawei Mobile/Metro edge routers? I'm > looking for something that will handle various MPLS services (Layer 2/3), > QinQ with about 10x1Gb Ethernet interfaces (no need for 10G). > > How are they compared to JN