Re: Ear protection

2015-09-26 Thread Dovid Bender
No but some one in Australia just bought the iPhone 6s via a robot. --Original Message-- From: Alan Buxey Sender: NANOG To: Nick Hilliard To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Ear protection Sent: Sep 26, 2015 04:21 Great summary of the thread No-one using remote control robots with video

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-26 Thread Alan Buxey
Great summary of the thread No-one using remote control robots with video feed etc for working in these environments then? Plans to? ;) alan

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-25 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 23/09/2015 10:34, Nick Hilliard wrote: > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? Summarising, people seem to use a wide variety of kit: Ear muffs: - 3M Peltor Shotgunner Hearing Protector - 3M Peltor Optime Acoustic headsets: - 3M Peltor W

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-24 Thread Joe Greco
> > On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > >=20 > > Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can > > be more expensive. > > $DAYJOB uses an immersion cooling system so it=E2=80=99s higher = > performance and much quieter. That's not typical passive cooling. An

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-24 Thread Sameer Khosla
For years we have used the Peltor/3M Bluetooth headsets in the datacenter. Proper hearing protection and noise cancelling mic, with the added bonus of protecting my head a bit when I am up on the ladder in the DC and can easily bang into potentially sharp things. http://goo.gl/ShTCEF They are

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-24 Thread mikea
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 09:51:07AM -0500, Chris Boyd wrote: > > > On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > > > > Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can > > be more expensive. > > $DAYJOB uses an immersion cooling system so it’s higher performance and much

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-24 Thread Chris Boyd
> On Sep 23, 2015, at 7:33 AM, Joe Greco wrote: > > Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can > be more expensive. $DAYJOB uses an immersion cooling system so it’s higher performance and much quieter. —Chris

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-24 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
gt;> -Original Message- >> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Holloway >> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:48 AM >> To: Joe Greco; jim deleskie >> Cc: Alex Rubenstein; NANOG >> Subject: Re: Ear protection >> >> >&

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Don Nightingale
Subject: Re: Ear protection On 9/23/15, 7:53 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Joe Greco" wrote: Maybe I've always listened to my music to loud and spend the bulk of time via ssh, but I've never felt a need for hearing protection in a DC, is this generally an issue for people? Dep

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Justin Sherrill
> What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? > I'm down to my last couple of corded 3M 1110: http://www.moldex.com/hearing-protection/foam-earplugs/pura-fit.php This are cheap, but that's sort of the point - you can put a bin, or several bins, filled with them on the

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Wayne E Bouchard
If you go the "molded to my ear" route, do not forget that your ears will tend to change over time and these must be replaced periodically or they'll become uncomfortable and less effective. (I forget what the recommendation is but I think every 1-2 years at the outside.) On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 1

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Wayne E Bouchard
So I intended to provide a few short comments on this but got on a roll. The below may be of more or less use to you but this is the way I look at things. Listening to music isn't all that bad a means of dealing with noise for shorter periods such as the odd onsite engineers have to do because eit

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Erik Sundberg
inal Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Lamar Owen Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 11:13 AM To: NANOG Subject: Re: Ear protection On 09/23/2015 10:09 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: > Since I’m in our colo facility this morning, I decided to put some numbers on &g

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Lamar Owen
On 09/23/2015 10:09 AM, Keith Stokes wrote: Since I’m in our colo facility this morning, I decided to put some numbers on it in my little isolated corner with lots of blowers running. According to my iPhone SPL meter, average SPL is 81 - 82 dB with peaks 88 - 89 dB. With SPL that close to th

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Matthew Black
I use the 3M E-A-R plugs at home and love them. Since my tragus doesn't fold over, I am unable to use traditional Apple earbuds or other things that just fall out of my ear. 3M E-A-R plugs are like memory foam and fit snugly, providing excellent noise reduction. I use ComplyFoam on in-ear headph

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Royce Williams
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 1:34 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? For me, it depends on the use case. If I need to monitor for other sounds, or listen to music: Bose QuietComfort 15 - discontinued, but still at Costco.com for $240. The

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Eric Rogers
Holloway Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 9:48 AM To: Joe Greco; jim deleskie Cc: Alex Rubenstein; NANOG Subject: Re: Ear protection On 9/23/15, 7:53 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Joe Greco" wrote: >> Maybe I've always listened to my music to loud and spend the bulk of >>ti

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Jordan Medlen
[mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Harald Koch Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2015 10:45 AM To: David Hubbard Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Ear protection I use Etymotic earplugs on my motorcycle as well as in other loud environments, because they attenuate "without loss of clarity&qu

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Harald Koch
I use Etymotic earplugs on my motorcycle as well as in other loud environments, because they attenuate "without loss of clarity": http://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ETY-Plugs-Protection-Earplugs/dp/B0044DEESS ​ -- Harald

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread David Hubbard
I wear one of two things: 1) The 3M Peltor 105 ear muffs which offer 30db reduction. I keep them in my car because I also use them for the gun range, they fit snug but not annoying. They're only $18 on amazon: http://tinyurl.com/peltor105 There's also a behind the head bar if you don't like the o

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2015-09-23 at 13:48 +, Bryan Holloway wrote: > Depends on the type of "noise" too. Obviously seek competent medical advice, but my understanding is that this is a myth. The energy of sound is what causes damage. Bach played at 120dB will do just the same damage as a jet engine at 120d

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Keith Stokes
Since I’m in our colo facility this morning, I decided to put some numbers on it in my little isolated corner with lots of blowers running. According to my iPhone SPL meter, average SPL is 81 - 82 dB with peaks 88 - 89 dB. According to the OSHA hearing protection chart, 90 dB is the maximum lev

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Steve Mikulasik
I use these normally. http://www.howardleight.com/earplugs/laser-lite I am surprised some datacenters don't have a requirement for ear protection when entering their facilitiy. Most large construction sites I have been to required me to have ear plugs at least in a pocket and I have been to a fe

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Bryan Holloway
On 9/23/15, 7:53 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Joe Greco" wrote: >> Maybe I've always listened to my music to loud and spend the bulk of >>time >> via ssh, but I've never felt a need for hearing protection in a DC, is >>this >> generally an issue for people? > >Depends on how long and how noisy. > >As

RE: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Jameson, Daniel
I use these http://www.amazon.com/V-MODA-Faders-Tuned-Earplugs-Electro/dp/B007RRTO2Y/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1443014097&sr=8-9&keywords=er+20+ear+plugs in the equipment room, You can still hear, just brings the level down to a manageable level. Looks like a pair of headphones.

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Brian Christopher Raaen
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 8:50 AM, wrote: > When buying a compute cluster, if there's a budget choice between > 15 more teraflops, or 15 less decibels, the teraflops *always* win. > Loudly sounds like a flop to me puns fully intended -- Brian Christopher Raaen Network Architect Zcorum

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 23 Sep 2015 11:08:09 -, Alex Rubenstein said: > Why not just build a Datacenter that is quiet? When buying a compute cluster, if there's a budget choice between 15 more teraflops, or 15 less decibels, the teraflops *always* win. pgpPEg0jomK8N.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Joe Greco
> Maybe I've always listened to my music to loud and spend the bulk of time > via ssh, but I've never felt a need for hearing protection in a DC, is this > generally an issue for people? Depends on how long and how noisy. As I've gotten older, I find loud noise in general is less tolerable, so I'

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Joe Greco
> Why not just build a Datacenter that is quiet? Because the cost differential to do so is a lot greater than the $10 to get some hearing protection? Passive cooling typically translates to lower performance but also can be more expensive. ... JG -- Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwa

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread jim deleskie
Maybe I've always listened to my music to loud and spend the bulk of time via ssh, but I've never felt a need for hearing protection in a DC, is this generally an issue for people? On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote: > Why not just build a Datacenter that is quiet? > > On Sep

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Why not just build a Datacenter that is quiet? On Sep 23, 2015 05:34, Nick Hilliard wrote: What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? I'm down to my last couple of corded 3M 1110: http://www.shop3m.com/3m-corded-earplugs-hearing-conservation-1110.html These work reaso

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Will van Gulik
I used molded 15dB earplug from ACS that I also use for other environments (music, etc). They are way much more comfortable (like, you forget them) but also more expensive. BTW I'm looking for a place to get new ones in Europe, if anyone has got adresses. Will van Gulik On 23 Sep 2015, at 1

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Joe Greco
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? > > Telecommuting, in my case. > > had to say it! :0 I carry these around in my pocket all the time: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000W2CPCC Not just for datace

Re: Ear protection

2015-09-23 Thread Dave Taht
On Wed, Sep 23, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > What are people using for ear protection for datacenters these days? Telecommuting, in my case. had to say it! :0 > I'm > down to my last couple of corded 3M 1110: > > http://www.shop3m.com/3m-corded-earplugs-hearing-conservation-1110.htm