Looks like ISP-to-customer notification of possible infection is starting
on Comcast in the US now.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10370996-245.html
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Peter Beckman Inter
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> > -Original Message-
> > From: Eugeniu Patrascu [mailto:eu...@imacandi.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:20 AM
> > To: Gadi Evron
> > Cc: NANOG
> > Subject: Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for
> bottedclients
Re: VOIP, 911, bots
Shape their bandwidth down to the minimum required to make a 911 call,
around 64Kbps, and capture their web accesses.
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The end problem is still users and really, these users will click on
anything that has a bright and shiny button which says, Ok. Really,
does setting up a portal help? Perhaps a "sandboxed" area which has
some information on securing their machine and keeping it clean may be
the way to go
On Oct 6, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Eugeniu Patrascu wrote:
Gadi Evron wrote:
Barton F Bruce wrote:
Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that
a family
using VOIP only for their phone service can't call 911 and several
children
burn to death could bring all sorts of undesira
> -Original Message-
> From: Eugeniu Patrascu [mailto:eu...@imacandi.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:20 AM
> To: Gadi Evron
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for
bottedclients
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> >
> I think the need for som
Eugeniu Patrascu wrote:
Gadi Evron wrote:
Barton F Bruce wrote:
Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that a
family
using VOIP only for their phone service can't call 911 and several
children
burn to death could bring all sorts of undesirable regulation let
alone the
b
Gadi Evron wrote:
Barton F Bruce wrote:
Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that a
family
using VOIP only for their phone service can't call 911 and several
children
burn to death could bring all sorts of undesirable regulation let
alone the
bad press and legal expens
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 03:55:02PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote:
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> On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Barry Shein wrote:
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> >
> >Perhaps someone has said this but a potential implementation problem
> >in the US are anti-trust regulations. Sure, they may come around to
> >seeing it your way since the int
On Oct 5, 2009, at 11:23 AM, Barry Shein wrote:
Perhaps someone has said this but a potential implementation problem
in the US are anti-trust regulations. Sure, they may come around to
seeing it your way since the intent is so good but then again "we all
decided to get together and blacklist c
Perhaps someone has said this but a potential implementation problem
in the US are anti-trust regulations. Sure, they may come around to
seeing it your way since the intent is so good but then again "we all
decided to get together and blacklist customers who..." is not a great
elevator pitch to an
On Sun, Oct 04, 2009 at 08:07:00PM -0400, Barton F Bruce wrote:
>> Exactly correct. The number one priority, which trumps all others,
>> is making the abuse stop. Yes, there are many other things that can
>> and should be done, but that's the first one.
>
> Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting
> > Exactly correct. The number one priority, which trumps all others,
> > is making the abuse stop. Yes, there are many other things that
> can
> > and should be done, but that's the first one.
>
> Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that a
> family
> using VOIP only fo
Barton F Bruce wrote:
Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that a family
using VOIP only for their phone service can't call 911 and several children
burn to death could bring all sorts of undesirable regulation let alone the
bad press and legal expenses.
While a legitima
Exactly correct. The number one priority, which trumps all others,
is making the abuse stop. Yes, there are many other things that can
and should be done, but that's the first one.
Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that a family
using VOIP only for their phone ser
Hi!
Sounds great but who cover the costs?
If done right, such a treaty here in the US and elsewhere thing would be a
major win for the Internet.
The ISP's will pick up the costs. A cleaner customer base is also a win
for them.
First implementations wont be next week however but the sta
Sounds great but who cover the costs?
--Original Message--
From: Peter Beckman
To: Gadi Evron
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients
Sent: Oct 3, 2009 7:18 PM
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009, Gadi Evron wrote:
> The story is covered by PC
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