Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-26 Thread Saku Ytti
https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content&id=JSA10819 https://kb.juniper.net/InfoCenter/index?page=content&id=JSA10713 https://tools.cisco.com/security/center/content/CiscoSecurityAdvisory/cisco-sa-20180307-cpcp https://tools.cisco.com/security/center/content/CiscoSecurityAdvisory/cisco-

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-26 Thread Alan Buxey
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/26/hyperoptics_zte_routers/ yet another ZTE issue . :( alan

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On 24 April 2018 at 21:45, Naslund, Steve wrote: Hey, > The US Government considers Huawei and ZTE to have "close ties" to the > Chinese government according to the Director of National Intelligence along > with the heads of CIA, FBI, and the NSA as stated in testimony before the > Senate In

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Naslund, Steve
>I'm sure all these companies have legal entities in all countries the operate >in. So Huawei in US is US company and Huawei products bought in US from US >Huawei are good,. but bad >when bought from Huawei China? IANAL however I was a network engineer for the US Air Force for over ten years.

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey Aaron, > Excuse my lack of knowledge... What does this mean? "Shareholders are people > holding Vanguard/Blackrock." Funds which are largest owners of Cisco shares. -- ++ytti

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Aaron Gould
Excuse my lack of knowledge... What does this mean? "Shareholders are people holding Vanguard/Blackrock." Aaron > On Apr 24, 2018, at 10:31 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > Shareholders are people holding Vanguard/Blackrock.

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread STARNES, CURTIS via NANOG
-Original Message- >From: NANOG On Behalf Of Saku Ytti >Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:59 AM >To: Naslund, Steve >Cc: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE >On 24 April 2018 at 19:50, Naslund, Steve wrote: >> Easy one, what law is the co

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On 24 April 2018 at 19:50, Naslund, Steve wrote: > Easy one, what law is the company incorporated under? Nothing against the > Chinese companies (some of their stuff is really great), but it is admittedly > hard to separate China's military industrial complex from their > communications suppl

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Naslund, Steve
> > > Yes looks like they are both under pressure. I feel bad for the USA based > > employees. I know Huawei has quite a few in Plano, Texas. > > Feel sorry for US based consumers. Historically protectionism always > hurts the local economy most. By creating artificial demand on local > products, o

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Colton Conor
Saku, I do feel bad for US Based consumers as I am one of them! Overall, I find Huawei's solutions to be 1/3 the price of the equivalent Juniper/Cisco. The only the stopping me from buying them is the fear of it being hacked due to the media. Like the S6720-EI is MEF certified, runs MPLS, and is

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Saku Ytti
On 20 April 2018 at 16:44, Colton Conor wrote: > Yes looks like they are both under pressure. I feel bad for the USA based > employees. I know Huawei has quite a few in Plano, Texas. Feel sorry for US based consumers. Historically protectionism always hurts the local economy most. By creating ar

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-24 Thread Colin Stanners (lists)
: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE Josh, I like the whitebox route, but I can't find anything that will come close price wise. Example, Huawei S6720 with 24 10G ports, 2 40G ports, and full MPLS operating system from Huawei is $3500 out the door with a lifetime warranty. I can't even find

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread Colton Conor
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/17/technology/huawei-trade-war.html > > I don't think I would recommend either in todays political climate. > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG On Behalf Of Suresh Ramasubramanian > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 7:35 AM > To: C

RE: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread STARNES, CURTIS via NANOG
don't think I would recommend either in todays political climate. -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Suresh Ramasubramanian Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 7:35 AM To: Colton Conor ; NANOG Subject: Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE Ah. ZTE is in a spot of trouble right abou

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread Colton Conor
Josh, I like the whitebox route, but I can't find anything that will come close price wise. Example, Huawei S6720 with 24 10G ports, 2 40G ports, and full MPLS operating system from Huawei is $3500 out the door with a lifetime warranty. I can't even find a whitebox hardware, not even accounting f

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Ah. ZTE is in a spot of trouble right about now. http://www.scmp.com/tech/article/2142557/zte-calls-us-government-ban-extremely-unfair-vows-fight-its-rights On 20/04/18, 5:58 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Colton Conor" wrote: Of the two large Chinese Vendors, which has the better network operat

Re: China Showdown Huawei vs ZTE

2018-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
Why not just go the whitebox route and pick your NOS of choice? Far cheaper, and far more flexible. On Fri, Apr 20, 2018, 7:28 AM Colton Conor wrote: > Of the two large Chinese Vendors, which has the better network operating > system? Huawei is much larger that ZTE is my understanding, but larg