Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/Jun/19 17:23, John Kristoff wrote: > bps pricing is rarely apples to apples, Cogent will happily tell you > that. However, you may want more than just apples. I've seen at least > three serious providers offer as good or better deals in the last year > or so. At one time they were unbea

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On 8/Jun/19 15:08, Darin Steffl wrote: > Ok just so simplify things. > > Is Cogent or CenturyLink/L3 better for transit? Generally, I'd say hook up to more than one "transit-free" provider if you must use any of them. Mark.

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-08 Thread Scott Weeks
Just for fun... :) --- c...@cmadams.net wrote: From: Chris Adams "...old Savvis (aka Cable & Wireless aka InternetMCI) AS 3561, and untold more Internet history... :) - hosting services (global reach) digital island -> cable & wireless -> savv

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-08 Thread John Kristoff
On Sat, 8 Jun 2019 14:40:23 + Filip Hruska wrote: > their pricing is (if you push hard enough) simply unbeatable. bps pricing is rarely apples to apples, Cogent will happily tell you that. However, you may want more than just apples. I've seen at least three serious providers offer as good

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-08 Thread Filip Hruska
02:00, David Hubbard wrote: >Cogent is great, or worthless, depending on whether you like talking to >Google via IPv6. > >From: NANOG on behalf of Darin Steffl > >Date: Saturday, June 8, 2019 at 9:10 AM >To: Brielle Bruns >Cc: North American Network Operators' Group &g

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-08 Thread David Hubbard
Cogent is great, or worthless, depending on whether you like talking to Google via IPv6. From: NANOG on behalf of Darin Steffl Date: Saturday, June 8, 2019 at 9:10 AM To: Brielle Bruns Cc: North American Network Operators' Group Subject: Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS Ok ju

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-08 Thread Mike Bolitho
As usual, that depends. Gotta give us a lot more information than that. -Mike Bolitho On Sat, Jun 8, 2019, 6:10 AM Darin Steffl wrote: > Ok just so simplify things. > > Is Cogent or CenturyLink/L3 better for transit? > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 3:00 PM Brielle Bruns wrote: > >> On 6/7/2019 11:03 A

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-08 Thread Darin Steffl
Ok just so simplify things. Is Cogent or CenturyLink/L3 better for transit? On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 3:00 PM Brielle Bruns wrote: > On 6/7/2019 11:03 AM, Romeo Czumbil wrote: > > All new CL Internet get's provisioned on AS3356 > > You would need a strong case for them to put you on AS209 > > > Got

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-07 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 6/7/2019 11:03 AM, Romeo Czumbil wrote: All new CL Internet get's provisioned on AS3356 You would need a strong case for them to put you on AS209 Got provisioned last year on AS209 when they turned up my ent Fiber with BGP. Could depend heavily on what services and where. -- Brielle Bru

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-07 Thread Eric Flanery (eric)
On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 10:03 AM Romeo Czumbil wrote: > All new CL Internet get's provisioned on AS3356 > You would need a strong case for them to put you on AS209 > > At this time they are not merging the two AS's > And also define "quality" ;-) > > -Romeo > That isn't true in my recent experien

RE: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-07 Thread Romeo Czumbil
All new CL Internet get's provisioned on AS3356 You would need a strong case for them to put you on AS209 At this time they are not merging the two AS's And also define "quality" ;-) -Romeo From: NANOG On Behalf Of Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, June 7, 2019 12:02 PM To: North American Network Oper

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-07 Thread Tom Beecher
That '2000 peer ASN's' value is likely very, very inflated. I have prefixes that would look like I am peering with 3549 directly in many places that I do not. L3 has for some time had a partial as-merge community that you can set so that if you announce a prefix to 3356, they'll mirror it over to

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-07 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Darin Steffl said: > Are there plans for CL and Level3 to combine AS's into one network? We have CenturyLink transit from old Qwest (AS 209) and old Level3 (AS 3356) in Chicago... when we ordered the more recent circuit, both sales and tech said that there's no plan to merge the

Re: CenturyLink/Level 3 combined AS

2019-06-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I wouldn't expect them to be integrated for at least another decade. Global Crossing AS3549 still exists with over 2,000 peer ASNs, yet Level 3 acquired them in 2011. Time Warner Telecom was acquired in 2014 and it still has 89 peer ASNs. Centurylink bought Digital Teleport in 2003 and their