Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On 2015-09-26 22:56, Seth Mattinen wrote: What's worked for me is not signing or renewing or buying things that lack IPv6 support. While you're demanding better technology you may also want to include things like crypto in there. I've gotten proposals for things that support IPv6 but only work

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On 9/24/15 09:59, William Astle wrote: On 2015-09-24 10:49, Dovid Bender wrote: The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue is many software vendors still don't support it. Regards, Dovid Actually, the issue now is convincing certain big providers to actually make

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On Sep 26, 2015, at 5:11 AM, Randy Bush mailto:ra...@psg.com>> wrote: The IPv4 free pool for the ARIN region is now depleted and the world goes on Indeed. …then again, the real traffic growth having already moved off of IPv4 to IPv6 probably helps a bit -

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> The IPv4 free pool for the ARIN region is now depleted and the world goes on randy

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> On Sep 25, 2015, at 05:04 , Joe Greco wrote: > >>> The question really at hand: what happens when you need to host a new=20= >> >>> pile of servers, need/can-justify a /24, and your hosting provider=20 >>> quotes you $2560/month just for the IP space (at $10/IP)? >> >> You probably laugh and

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On 25 September 2015 at 02:57, wrote: > On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:39:54 -0700, Michael Thomas said: >> That will be pretty interesting for anybody who's using aws as their >> server infrastructure since aws is >> still v6 useless last i heard. > > I wonder if a sudden exodus of customers whose iOS a

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> > The question really at hand: what happens when you need to host a new=20= > > > pile of servers, need/can-justify a /24, and your hosting provider=20 > > quotes you $2560/month just for the IP space (at $10/IP)? > > You probably laugh and go to some other provider or BYOA from a broker. That

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> > And this may trigger a refresh on routers, as people old or refurbed > > equipment find they need to change. The whole reason for the inertia > > against going to IPv6 is "it ain't broke, so I not gonna 'fix' it." > > Yea, well, it would be nice if upgrading existing home routers > remained l

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valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > > I wonder if a sudden exodus of customers whose iOS app got axed > because it can't contact an aws-hosted server from an IPv6-only > network will be enough to get their attention Maybe they'll just proxy via CloudFlare to AWS. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch

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> On Sep 24, 2015, at 15:57 , Joe Greco wrote: > >> According to http://business.comcast.com/internet/business-internet/static-= >> ip >> Comcast charges $19.95 per month for one static IPv4 address. > > High dollar amounts for a single static IPv4 address are nothing new, > and are IMHO a side

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What people often miss is the front end doesn't need to be the same as the backend. The front should be v6, and using a service to do this for you isn't too hard. This is what many CDNs do. Jared Mauch > On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:57 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > > On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:39

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On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 16:39:54 -0700, Michael Thomas said: > That will be pretty interesting for anybody who's using aws as their > server infrastructure since aws is > still v6 useless last i heard. I wonder if a sudden exodus of customers whose iOS app got axed because it can't contact an aws-host

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That will be pretty interesting for anybody who's using aws as their server infrastructure since aws is still v6 useless last i heard. Mike On 09/24/2015 04:33 PM, Eric Tykwinski wrote: No doubt as an iOS/Apple developer for a hobby, they have been pretty forth coming on dual stack. It’s not

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No doubt as an iOS/Apple developer for a hobby, they have been pretty forth coming on dual stack. It’s not totally a requirement yet, but pretty much a BCOP: https://developer.apple.com/library/prerelease/ios/documentation/NetworkingInternetWeb/Conceptual/NetworkingOverview/UnderstandingandPrepari

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> On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Franck Martin via NANOG wrote: > > I think the next requirement for iOS apps: "We ran your app on an IPv6 only > network and it did not work. Your submission to the Apple store is > therefore denied." That’s forthcoming. https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/20

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I think the next requirement for iOS apps: "We ran your app on an IPv6 only network and it did not work. Your submission to the Apple store is therefore denied."

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On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > On 09/24/2015 09:49 AM, Dovid Bender wrote: >> >> The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other >> issue is many software vendors still don't support it. > > > And this may trigger a refresh on routers, as people old or

RE: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

Bob Evans Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 3:32 PM To: nanog list Subject: Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero IPv4's works better today than ever before. IP space in North America has now officially turned into a revenue source for networks. Most private enterprise customers under

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> According to http://business.comcast.com/internet/business-internet/static-= > ip > Comcast charges $19.95 per month for one static IPv4 address. High dollar amounts for a single static IPv4 address are nothing new, and are IMHO a side effect of monopoly/duopoly last mile providers being able to

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: nanog list Subject: Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero IPv4's works better today than ever before. IP space in North America has now officially turned into a revenue source for networks. Most private enterprise customers understand costs and profits. Business does not understand

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On Sep 24, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Bryan Socha mailto:br...@digitalocean.com>> wrote: Shouldn't 23.128.0.0/10 be put back into the pool? Bryan - 23.128.0.0/10 isn’t on loan to RIPE; it is the permanently reserved block for IPv6 transition (see ARIN NRPM 4.10 "Dedicated IPv

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27;t broke, so I not gonna 'fix' it." >> >> Now it's broke. >> = >> >> ^^^This ^^^ >> >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> - Original Message -

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ldren to grow up in a worlds without cgnat. > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Satchell > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:38 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero >

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Shouldn't 23.128.0.0/10 be put back into the pool? Ripe finished their test and this was a loaned block. Also with 16 million addresses in their reserved pool, did they really need to borrow this in the first place?? https://labs.ripe.net/Members/emileaben/has-the-routability-of-longer-than-

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s don't try to fix IPv4 instead of going to IPv6. > I'd like my children to grow up in a worlds without cgnat. > > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Satchell > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 1:38 PM > To

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gent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > - Original Message - > > From: "Stephen Satchell" > To: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:38:26 PM > Subject: Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero > > On 09/24/2015 0

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- From: "Stephen Satchell" To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:38:26 PM Subject: Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero On 09/24/2015 09:49 AM, Dovid Bender wrote: > The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other > issue is many

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38 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero On 09/24/2015 09:49 AM, Dovid Bender wrote: > The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue > is many software vendors still don't support it. And this may trigger a refresh on routers,

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On 09/24/2015 09:49 AM, Dovid Bender wrote: The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue is many software vendors still don't support it. And this may trigger a refresh on routers, as people old or refurbed equipment find they need to change. The whole reason for the

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

Let's say it's less than 1Tbit but based on the growth curve in recent weeks I'm not sure it will stay there. Jared Mauch > On Sep 24, 2015, at 11:55 AM, a.l.m.bu...@lboro.ac.uk wrote: > > Hi, > >> IPv6 traffic roughly doubled in my view of the internet in the past ~2 weeks >> as the 9.0 GM

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Hi, > IPv6 traffic roughly doubled in my view of the internet in the past ~2 weeks > as the 9.0 GM image hit and the public release of 9.0 came out. 0.001% of traffic to 0.002% ;-) joking aside as I'm a big IPv6 champion IPv6 is picking up a lot recentlyand whilst the bahviour change

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

> On Sep 24, 2015, at 12:49 PM, Dovid Bender wrote: > > The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue is > many software vendors still don't support it. > Open a ticket with your NOC or the customer support people if they can’t reach sites like http://adsb.nether.net

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On 24 September 2015 at 18:34, John Curran wrote: > In the future, any IPv4 address space that ARIN receives from IANA, or > recovers from revocations or returns from organizations, will be used to > satisfy approved requests on the Waiting List for Unmet Requests. > > > *If we are able to fully

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On 2015-09-24 10:49, Dovid Bender wrote: The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue is many software vendors still don't support it. Regards, Dovid Actually, the issue now is convincing certain big providers to actually make IPv6 service available to their custom

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The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other issue is many software vendors still don't support it. Regards, Dovid -Original Message- From: Ca By Sender: "NANOG" Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 09:46:31 To: John Curran Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: ARIN Region

Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 9:34 AM, John Curran wrote: > (Apologies for redistribution, but need to insure that this is seen by all > in the region.) > > The IPv4 free pool for the ARIN region is now depleted; ISPs are > encouraged to utilize > IPv6 for additional customer growth and the IPv4 transf