Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-27 Thread Mark Tinka
On 21/Nov/19 19:59, Saku Ytti wrote: > > As there are best path algorithms which consider route age, BGP reset > impact may be indefinite. A practical problem we've seen with Cisco's BGP-SD implementation is that 0/0 and ::/0, when learned via BGP, are installed last. So consider a situation

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-22 Thread Yoni Radzin
”Someday we’ll find it: the stable connection, my providers, my routers and me.“ - Kermit the Frog https://networkphil.com/ Couldn’t resist- having read this and then almost immediately seeing a link to the above “Rainbow Connection” remix via a LinkedIn post. Happy Friday! Cheers, Yoni > O

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:40 PM Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:32 PM Baldur Norddahl > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:21 AM Christopher Morrow > > wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:01 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > >> > > >> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 at

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:32 PM Baldur Norddahl wrote: > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:21 AM Christopher Morrow > wrote: >> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:01 AM Saku Ytti wrote: >> > >> > On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 at 19:44, Baldur Norddahl >> > wrote: >> > >> > > A BGP reset can cause routing trou

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Baldur Norddahl
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:21 AM Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:01 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > > > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 at 19:44, Baldur Norddahl > wrote: > > > > > A BGP reset can cause routing trouble for as much as 15 minutes. Since > you have two sessions that mitigates the

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 2:01 AM Saku Ytti wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 at 19:44, Baldur Norddahl > wrote: > > > A BGP reset can cause routing trouble for as much as 15 minutes. Since you > > have two sessions that mitigates the problem somewhat. But nevertheless > > this will not be acceptab

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:54 AM Tom Beecher wrote: > > I agree that this sounds like an automated process in some way. > > I would suspect that either a vendor code update changed something such that > a given command that would not cause session reset now does, or they changed > their automati

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 at 19:44, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > A BGP reset can cause routing trouble for as much as 15 minutes. Since you > have two sessions that mitigates the problem somewhat. But nevertheless this > will not be acceptable. As there are best path algorithms which consider route age,

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Baldur Norddahl
A BGP reset can cause routing trouble for as much as 15 minutes. Since you have two sessions that mitigates the problem somewhat. But nevertheless this will not be acceptable. Regards Baldur tor. 21. nov. 2019 10.47 skrev Christopher Morrow : > Howdy! > A question of interest to me, currently,

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Tom Beecher
I agree that this sounds like an automated process in some way. I would suspect that either a vendor code update changed something such that a given command that would not cause session reset now does, or they changed their automation to include a command that would cause a reset without realizing

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Mel Beckman
No. There should be no reason to bounce the session. Do you have soft updates turn on? -mel via cell > On Nov 21, 2019, at 1:46 AM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > Howdy! > A question of interest to me, currently, is whether it's normal for > providers to cause BGP flaps to their customers n

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 4:48 AM Jared Mauch wrote: > > > > > On Nov 21, 2019, at 4:45 AM, Christopher Morrow > > wrote: > > > > Howdy! > > A question of interest to me, currently, is whether it's normal for > > providers to cause BGP flaps to their customers nightly... This seems, > > in my case

Re: Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Nov 21, 2019, at 4:45 AM, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > > Howdy! > A question of interest to me, currently, is whether it's normal for > providers to cause BGP flaps to their customers nightly... This seems, > in my case, to be the provider PROBABLY updating prefix-filters on my > sessio

Question about normal ops - BGP Flaps nightly

2019-11-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
Howdy! A question of interest to me, currently, is whether it's normal for providers to cause BGP flaps to their customers nightly... This seems, in my case, to be the provider PROBABLY updating prefix-filters on my session(s). Particularly AS56554 is currently getting v4/v6 transit from 2 provide