On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:54 AM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote: > > I agree that this sounds like an automated process in some way. > > I would suspect that either a vendor code update changed something such that > a given command that would not cause session reset now does, or they changed > their automation to include a command that would cause a reset without > realizing it/slipped through the cracks / etc. >
thanks to some private chat with another nanog participant it was noted the reason for failure is: "Error event Operation timed out(60) for I/O session - closing it" This is fine, I suppose, except that I have v4/v6 sessions on the same ptp link/path. So, if v6 times out I'd have expected v4 to also timeout. Strangely I had thought we were told the 2 links we have land on 2 different devices, but router-id tells me that's false as well. :( The sessions appear to reset on both devices (according to syslog) at the same time, I had thought (because our alerter is telling me) the sessions had a gap between the 2 drops. The physical payer is some bidi fiber path across an L2 (ether) network to the provider, perhaps the problem isn't on the l3/bgp parts here, but in the l2 network between. we are at the end of our time here so I think I'll gather some logs and see if the provider can make sense of the issues. > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 9:18 AM Mel Beckman <m...@beckman.org> wrote: >> >> No. There should be no reason to bounce the session. Do you have soft >> updates turn on? >> >> -mel via cell >> >> > On Nov 21, 2019, at 1:46 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.li...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> > >> > Howdy! >> > A question of interest to me, currently, is whether it's normal for >> > providers to cause BGP flaps to their customers nightly... This seems, >> > in my case, to be the provider PROBABLY updating prefix-filters on my >> > session(s). >> > >> > Particularly AS56554 is currently getting v4/v6 transit from 2 >> > providers, one of which we have 2 links toward. That provider appears >> > to flap both of our ipv6 (only) bgp peers each night at about the same >> > time each night. This smells like: "filter updates', but something >> > that's different than the v4 filter update? (or perhaps they have no >> > v4 filtering to update?) >> > >> > In the end, should customers expect nightly (or on a regular cadence) >> > to see their sessions bounce? It hasn't been my experience in other >> > situations... >> > >> > -chris