Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Randy Bush
> on the other hand, such a move would trim a huge number of list > members, which might refocus the list to "North America".

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 31, 2010, at 12:43 PM, Daniel Staal wrote: > On Wed, March 31, 2010 12:14 pm, Leigh Porter wrote: >> >> Until somebody does 'view headers' and sees >> >> /X/-/Sender/-/IP >> / >> and oh look, it was sent from 'foobarco' ;-) > > That depends on how they are sending it, of course. Webmail

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Daniel Staal
On Wed, March 31, 2010 12:14 pm, Leigh Porter wrote: > > Until somebody does 'view headers' and sees > > /X/-/Sender/-/IP > / > and oh look, it was sent from 'foobarco' ;-) That depends on how they are sending it, of course. Webmail usually just has the IP of the host, and I imagine quite a few

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread bmanning
on the other hand, such a move would trim a huge number of list members, which might refocus the list to "North America". --bill On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 09:25:56AM -0700, Tom Hutton wrote: > I also use a "freebie" webmail account for nanog mail. I would be > opposed to this. > > Tom > > >

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Charles Morris
-1 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: > +1 > > > > > On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:00 AM, jim deleskie wrote: >> I'm betting more then a few of use free mail accts to keep this >> separate from our work mail.  If your really having that much issue, >> config your mail server to

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Tom Hutton
I also use a "freebie" webmail account for nanog mail. I would be opposed to this. Tom On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:42 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Is there anyone here who is legitimate using a freebie webmail account? > I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything originating >

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Leigh Porter
AM To: Seth Mattinen Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Seth Mattinen wrote: That's an exact opposite of silly from the OP's request; my "corporate account" works just fine. Well, your corporate account seems

RE: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Richey
t. Richey -Original Message- From: Mikael Abrahamsson [mailto:swm...@swm.pp.se] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 2:01 AM To: Seth Mattinen Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Seth Mattinen wrote: > That's an exact opposite of silly fro

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Richard Barnes
+1 On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:00 AM, jim deleskie wrote: > I'm betting more then a few of use free mail accts to keep this > separate from our work mail.  If your really having that much issue, > config your mail server to drop it yourself or unsub > > Seriously > > -jim   yes posted from

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Henry Yen
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 07:41:18AM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > I would much prefer if EVERYBODY used freebie email accounts as opposed to > their corporate ones, as this would make it more likely that they would > quote "correctly" and we would get less silly legal disclaimers and out of

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Jens Link
jim deleskie writes: Hi, > I'm betting more then a few of use free mail accts to keep this separate > from our work mail. As a positive side effect there are fewer "Out of Office replies" when people use different accounts for "normal" work mail and mailing lists. > If your really having th

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Charles Mills
We are not allowed to post from work email accounts to lists such as these as well. The CISO's reasoning (and he may have a point...) is that we might ask the list "Hey...I can't figure out why my Cisco $MODEL router is doing "this" when I upgrade to $VERSION of IOS." Then someone trolling to hac

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Jorge Amodio
>>> I'm betting more then a few of use free mail accts to keep this >>> separate from our work mail.  If your really having that much issue, >>> config your mail server to drop it yourself or unsub >>> >>> Seriously >>> >>> -jim   yes posted from gmail acct. >>> >> >> Ditto. >> >> - - ferg > >

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Henry Linneweh
also good if you show those names like fergie does his, it is part of the network tradition and in good spirit. -henry From: JC Dill To: "nanog@nanog.org" Sent: Wed, March 31, 2010 12:04:32 AM Subject: Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts Paul

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:42:46PM -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything originating > from commonly used webmail providers [...] Bad idea. While free webmail providers are prodigious sources of abuse, they're not prodigious sources of abuse

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-31 Thread JC Dill
Paul Ferguson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:00 PM, jim deleskie wrote: I'm betting more then a few of use free mail accts to keep this separate from our work mail. If your really having that much issue, config your mail server to drop it yo

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Steve Bertrand
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> On 2010.03.30 23:42, Andrew D Kirch wrote: >> >>> I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything >>> originating >>> from commonly used webmail providers, >> >> I oppose this proposal. >> >> There are very legitimate (and legal) reason

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010, Seth Mattinen wrote: That's an exact opposite of silly from the OP's request; my "corporate account" works just fine. Well, your corporate account seems to involve less silly (exchange/lotus notes) than most. -- Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/30/10 10:41 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > I would much prefer if EVERYBODY used freebie email accounts as opposed > to their corporate ones, as this would make it more likely that they > would quote "correctly" and we would get less silly legal disclaimers > and out of office messages. >

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Steve Bertrand wrote: On 2010.03.30 23:42, Andrew D Kirch wrote: I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything originating from commonly used webmail providers, I oppose this proposal. There are very legitimate (and legal) reasons why people may want to p

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.03.30 23:42, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything originating > from commonly used webmail providers, I oppose this proposal. There are very legitimate (and legal) reasons why people may want to post to an operational list, using an addres

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Jay Nakamura
I use gmail for all mailing lists. It's easier for me to organize my work flow and catch up on threads on my BB when I have a spare idle moment. On 3/31/10, neal rauhauser wrote: >I keep all of my mailing list stuff in gmail. I suppose I could move it, > but this list has so little trouble (

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Is there anyone here who is legitimate using a freebie webmail account? > I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything originating > from commonly used webmail providers, and add further RHS filters as > additional providers are identified as problems. > > A

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:00 PM, jim deleskie wrote: > I'm betting more then a few of use free mail accts to keep this > separate from our work mail. If your really having that much issue, > config your mail server to drop it yourself or unsub >

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread neal rauhauser
I keep all of my mailing list stuff in gmail. I suppose I could move it, but this list has so little trouble (unless gmail is doing a fantastic job of shielding me) that I don't see the point. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:42 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Is there anyone here who is legitimate u

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Mark Foster
On Wed, March 31, 2010 4:42 pm, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Is there anyone here who is legitimate using a freebie webmail account? > I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything originating > from commonly used webmail providers, and add further RHS filters as > additional providers ar

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread jim deleskie
I'm betting more then a few of use free mail accts to keep this separate from our work mail. If your really having that much issue, config your mail server to drop it yourself or unsub Seriously -jim yes posted from gmail acct. On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:42 AM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Is

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 3/30/2010 22:42, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Is there anyone here who is legitimate using a freebie webmail account? > I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything originating > from commonly used webmail providers, and add further RHS filters as > additional providers are identifie

Re: Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Anton Kapela
On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:42 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Is there anyone here who is legitimate using a freebie webmail account? I'm implicitly legit; further, gmail auto-threads all of the run-on posts automatically (much unlike mail.app, outlook 2k8, etc). What's the beef? -Tk

Posting from freebie E-mail Accounts

2010-03-30 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Is there anyone here who is legitimate using a freebie webmail account? I am proposing that the NANOG administration drop everything originating from commonly used webmail providers, and add further RHS filters as additional providers are identified as problems. Andrew