RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread Nick Guy
k...@noanet.net| +-+ -Original Message- From: Robert Bergman [mailto:rber...@gcpud.org] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 8:34 AM To: Warren Bailey; Constantine A. Murenin; Jeff Kell Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: One of our own in the

RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread Robert Bergman
PM To: Constantine A. Murenin; Jeff Kell Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian. I would imagine this cheap rural fiber showed up after the RUS stimulus? A former employer (GCI, in Anchorage Alaska) received quite a bit of money in the form of a grant/loan for a rural

RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread Robert Bergman
Nice to see our network talked about on here :0) -Original Message- From: Grant Ridder [mailto:shortdudey...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 9:33 PM To: Joe Hamelin Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian. Someone I know in Washington state has 100/100 at

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread Nick Guy
n >Spectrum Networks >Direct: 206-973-8302 >Main: 206-973-8300 > > >From: Joe Hamelin [j...@nethead.com] >Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:46 PM >To: Mark Keymer >Cc: NANOG list >Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian. >

RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-15 Thread John van Oppen
@nanog.org Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian. On 7/14/2013 9:08 PM, Jima wrote: > XMission does offer 1000/1000, as well; I seem to recall the price is > something like $300/mo. For us, the problem was more finding remote > sites that can push data rates anywhere near one's

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread Jeff Kell
On 7/14/2013 9:08 PM, Jima wrote: > XMission does offer 1000/1000, as well; I seem to recall the price is > something like $300/mo. For us, the problem was more finding remote > sites that can push data rates anywhere near one's own limit (as it's > enough of a problem at 100mbit), making the pri

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread Joly MacFie
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jeff Kell wrote: > It is our Electric provider utility, and much of the build out > was tied to "Smart Grid" power meter integration. I'm not familiar with > the politics, but there were some battles over funding and > justification. > Power Utility issues vis

RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread John van Oppen
From: Joe Hamelin [j...@nethead.com] Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2013 10:46 PM To: Mark Keymer Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Mark Keymer wrote: > He might have been talking about Condo Internet if he is in the Seattle > area

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread Jima
On 2013-07-13 20:15, Jima wrote: I can happily state that XMission is my home ISP, with UTOPIA (city-involved fiber optic provider) as the local loop. (Really, who has 100/100 at home?) Thanks to everyone who responded -- my list of places I'm willing to live is rounding out. ;-) XMissi

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread Jeff Kell
On 7/14/2013 3:37 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: > I would imagine this cheap rural fiber showed up after the RUS > stimulus? A former employer (GCI, in Anchorage Alaska) received quite > a bit of money in the form of a grant/loan for a rural fiber network > (I think they may have received the largest of

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread Warren Bailey
much of this was as a result of dot gov funding. Sent from my Mobile Device. Original message From: "Constantine A. Murenin" Date: 07/14/2013 10:59 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Jeff Kell Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: One of our own in the Guardian. On 14 July 2013 1

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 14 July 2013 10:11, Jeff Kell wrote: > On 7/13/2013 10:15 PM, Jima wrote: >> On 2013-07-13 14:44, Bill Woodcock wrote: >>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-privacy-nsa >>> >> >> I can happily state that XMission is my home ISP, with UTOPIA >> (city-involved fi

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread Scott Howard
Don't know about you, but when I log into my Comcast account I see : *Note:enforcement of the 250GB data consumption threshold is currently suspended * Even then, the 250GB only ever applied for the "slower" accounts. Scott On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Grant Ridder wrote: > In Mountain

Re: hotel networks, was One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread joel jaeggli
On 7/14/13 7:22 AM, John Levine wrote: I suspect the problem is the (offsite) hotel that Mark and I are at was not really prepared for a full house of folks interested in viewing streams, downloading documents, etc. (despite attempts to inform the hotel of the impending tsunami). I imagine folks

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread Jeff Kell
On 7/13/2013 10:15 PM, Jima wrote: > On 2013-07-13 14:44, Bill Woodcock wrote: >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-privacy-nsa >> > > I can happily state that XMission is my home ISP, with UTOPIA > (city-involved fiber optic provider) as the local loop. (Really,

Re: hotel networks, was One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread John Levine
>I suspect the problem is the (offsite) hotel that Mark and I are at was not >really prepared for a full house of folks interested in viewing streams, >downloading documents, etc. (despite attempts to inform the hotel of the >impending tsunami). I imagine folks involved in setting up NANOG-related

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread David Conrad
On Jul 14, 2013, at 11:12 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > You're on a continent with the second least amount of light pollution > of all of the continents on earth (iirc) and are somehow surprised > about bad net access? Africa is not homogeneous. > I would question the wisdom of planning a tech > con

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread shawn wilson
On Jul 14, 2013 5:36 AM, "Bill Woodcock" wrote: > > > On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:12 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > >> You're on a continent with the second least amount of light pollution >> of all of the continents on earth (iirc) and are somehow surprised >> about bad net access? I would question the wis

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Jul 14, 2013, at 2:12 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > You're on a continent with the second least amount of light pollution > of all of the continents on earth (iirc) and are somehow surprised > about bad net access? I would question the wisdom of planning a tech > conference there, but not the fac

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread shawn wilson
You're on a continent with the second least amount of light pollution of all of the continents on earth (iirc) and are somehow surprised about bad net access? I would question the wisdom of planning a tech conference there, but not the facility itself. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 4:16 AM, David Conrad

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread David Conrad
On Jul 14, 2013, at 6:50 AM, Mark Seiden wrote: > and here i am in the icann-selected hotel for the icann conference, and they > gave us a total of 500MB of metered usage. Trust me, the 500MB limit (per day, and resettable if you go down to the front desk and request more) is the least of you

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-14 Thread shawn wilson
Well, I think Google has the right idea with providing Internet by floating balloons. And the way that cell phone tech has been improving, we might all have 10G in... 10 years or so? If Google is providing it, it'll be monitored by our government but hey, we'll have enough bandwidth to hang oursel

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Mark Keymer wrote: > He might have been talking about Condo Internet if he is in the Seattle > area. They deliver 1Gig connections to your Condo/Apartment, if your in > one of the buildings they service. > I know the guy that does Condo. He was a very good frie

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Mike Lyon
There are a few wireless providers that serve the Mountain View area.. -Mike Founder Ridge Wireless www.ridgewireless.net Sent from my iPhone On Jul 13, 2013, at 21:56, Grant Ridder wrote: > In Mountain View (the middle of Silicon Valley) the only choice i have is > overpriced Comcast w/ a 30

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Mark Seiden
and here i am in the icann-selected hotel for the icann conference, and they gave us a total of 500MB of metered usage. for our entire stay, not per day. (should be better on the conference net). maybe i should just check out and check in every day. On Jul 14, 2013, at 6:44 AM, Alex Rubenstein

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Grant Ridder
In Mountain View (the middle of Silicon Valley) the only choice i have is overpriced Comcast w/ a 300 gig limit. I used to chew threw 300 gig in a week when i was in school. -Grant On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Alex Rubenstein wrote: > Yet, here, where I live, only 47 road miles from New Yo

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Mark Keymer
He might have been talking about Condo Internet if he is in the Seattle area. They deliver 1Gig connections to your Condo/Apartment, if your in one of the buildings they service. Also I wanted to mention that I have only seen,heard and experienced good things from Xmission. It is nice to see

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
http://www.nwi.net/ I'm thinking. Rides the county's fiber network. I remember delivering them T1s from Seattle back in the day ('96ish). I sure wish I could get some of that love. -- Joe Hamelin, W7COM, Tulalip, WA, 360-474-7474 On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Grant Ridder wrote: > Someone

RE: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Alex Rubenstein
Yet, here, where I live, only 47 road miles from New York City, I have a cable company who sells me metered (yes, METERED) DOCSIS, for nearly $100/month, 35/3. The limitation is like 100 GB/month or something (the equivalent of the amount of Netflix or AppleTV my kids watch in a weekend) No alte

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Grant Ridder
Someone I know in Washington state has 100/100 at home and made the comment to me a year ago that it was one of the slower speeds offered. I am not sure who his ISP is however. -Grant On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM, Joe Hamelin wrote: > Jima said: Really, who has 100/100 at home? > > Oddly, t

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
Jima said: Really, who has 100/100 at home? Oddly, those living in Grand Coulee, WA. I went there once to setup corporate connectivity for a regional tire store. They ordered the minimal drop, 50/50Mbs. One of the tire changers there told me that he had 100/100 at home for $50/month. This was a

Re: One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Jima
On 2013-07-13 14:44, Bill Woodcock wrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-privacy-nsa I can happily state that XMission is my home ISP, with UTOPIA (city-involved fiber optic provider) as the local loop. (Really, who has 100/100 at home?) I do hope the

One of our own in the Guardian.

2013-07-13 Thread Bill Woodcock
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jul/09/xmission-isp-customers-privacy-nsa -Bill