Fwd: Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-25 Thread Lost Email Forwarder [Do Not Reply][DART-4276] via NANOG
Before getting rid of the cellular based OOB, look into some more detail about exactly what LTE modems are in those. I've seen some remarkable results from equipment using the 600/700 bands (tmobile, verizon) for getting signal into deeply buried concrete structures. There's a lot of different type

Re: [External] Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Hunter Fuller via NANOG
On Tue, Apr 20, 2021 at 12:03 PM Saku Ytti wrote: > On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:53, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE < > l...@6by7.net> wrote: > > Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades? >> > > I would advise against this, OPEX nightmare. Who will NOC call when it is > down? What will they say to

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Saku Ytti
On Tue, 20 Apr 2021 at 19:53, Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE < l...@6by7.net> wrote: Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades? > I would advise against this, OPEX nightmare. Who will NOC call when it is down? What will they say to the other end to identify the circuit? When will it get fixed? If

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Mike Hammett
Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: "Matthew Crocker" Cc: "NANOG" Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 8:08:55 PM Subject: Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer Before getting rid of the cellular bas

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Robert Blayzor via NANOG
On 4/15/21 6:14 PM, Matthew Crocker wrote: I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer I'm in both locations as well. We have a 10MB static IP connection for them and I think it's like $50/mo. Depends on how "out of band" you want it to be. I also think Markley @ 1 summer

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-20 Thread Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE
We don’t advertise it, but we’ll do the same where we can, which is most POPs. The 2mbit waived commit is smart, clean. I like it! Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades? —L.B. Ms. Lady Benjamin PD Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE 6x7 Networks & 6x7 Telecom, LLC CEO l...@6by7.net

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 16, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 1:08 PM Bryan Fields wrote: >> On 4/16/21 1:33 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band > > Wow, this is an impressive offering. I wish more providers would do this. > > +manylots

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 1:08 PM Bryan Fields wrote: > On 4/16/21 1:33 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > > https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band > > Wow, this is an impressive offering. I wish more providers would do this. > +manylots. It's always surprising to me how often companies (in a

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread Bryan Fields
On 4/16/21 1:33 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: > https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band Wow, this is an impressive offering. I wish more providers would do this. -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

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2021-04-16 Thread Warren Kumari
ANOG on behalf of " > jstal...@ieee.org" > *Date: *Friday, April 16, 2021 at 12:03 PM > *To: *'Matthew Crocker' , 'NANOG' < > nanog@nanog.org> > *Subject: *[EXTERNAL_MESSAGE] RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 > Summer > > &

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread Phil Lavin via NANOG
> On 15 Apr 2021, at 23:29, wrote: > > > Ha! “Surprised”? Well, offering OOB for a reasonable price could be a > differentiator for the savvy colo providers, but bean counters say: “Huh? If > customer X wants OOB, they can pay ~$300/mo for a cross-connect”. ~$300/mo > might seem an exaggera

Re: [EXTERNAL_MESSAGE] RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread Mike McGurty
many cases. Michael From: NANOG on behalf of "jstal...@ieee.org" Date: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 12:03 PM To: 'Matthew Crocker' , 'NANOG' Subject: [EXTERNAL_MESSAGE] RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer Ha! “Surprised”? Well, offering OOB

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread Shane Ronan
rocker > *Sent:* Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:15 PM > *To:* NANOG > *Subject:* OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer > > > > > > I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some > low cost bandwidth options for out of band mana

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread Phil Lavin via NANOG
> On 15 Apr 2021, at 23:14, Matthew Crocker wrote: > > I’m in DR space @ 60 Hudson and the Markeley MMR @ 1 Summer > > I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers. In --dayJob we were a customer of 1 Summer. OOB was provided by Markley in the form of a couple of L3 c

RE: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread jstalder
us. Even ~$150/mo is ridiculous. If 4G-ish mobile service won't work, expect to pay. ;-( -Joel From: NANOG On Behalf Of Matthew Crocker Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 3:15 PM To: NANOG Subject: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer I have routers in both 60 Hu

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread Matthew Crocker
Geez, I’ve been at 1 Summer for 6+ years, never new they offered this. I’ll have to check it out Thanks -Matt From: Saku Ytti Date: Friday, April 16, 2021 at 1:34 AM To: Matthew Crocker Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer CAUTION: This email origin

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-16 Thread Dovid Bender
We use Raritan console devices in NJR2 and I couldn't be happier. They allow you to have to connections. We have a VPN device that is connected to our wan switches and then we have Verizon LTE as a backup. When we first went with T-Mobile we had problems with the connectivity (see https://mailman.n

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-15 Thread Mitcheltree, Harold B
Give the Verizon Machine to Machine plan a try before you give up on the cellular. --Pete From: NANOG on behalf of Saku Ytti Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 12:33 AM To: Matthew Crocker Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-15 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 16 Apr 2021 at 01:18, Matthew Crocker wrote: I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some > low cost bandwidth options for out of band management. Currently > > > > I’m surprised OOB bandwidth isn’t a feature for colocation providers. > That would surprise

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-15 Thread Louis D
What SIM provider and modem are you using in those Opengears? It’s been over a year but walked around 60 Hudson with LTE . I would exhaust the modem , provider , antenna placement options On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 9:12 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Before getting rid of the cellular based OOB, look into

Re: OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-15 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Before getting rid of the cellular based OOB, look into some more detail about exactly what LTE modems are in those. I've seen some remarkable results from equipment using the 600/700 bands (tmobile, verizon) for getting signal into deeply buried concrete structures. There's a lot of different type

OOB management options @ 60 Hudson & 1 Summer

2021-04-15 Thread Matthew Crocker
I have routers in both 60 Hudson St & 1 Summer St and I’m looking for some low cost bandwidth options for out of band management. Currently I have Opengear boxes at each site with cell modems but they don’t work too well. I either need to replace them with new cell based devices or find a wir