We don’t advertise it, but we’ll do the same where we can, which is most POPs.  
 The 2mbit waived commit is smart, clean. I like it!
Maybe a list for mutual OOB trades?  

—L.B.

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> On Apr 16, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> wrote:
> 
> On Apr 16, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Warren Kumari <war...@kumari.net 
> <mailto:war...@kumari.net>> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 1:08 PM Bryan Fields <br...@bryanfields.net> wrote:
>>> On 4/16/21 1:33 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
>>> https://www.markleygroup.com/cloud/network/out-of-band
>> 
>> Wow, this is an impressive offering.  I wish more providers would do this.
>> 
>> +manylots. It's always surprising to me how often companies (in all 
>> industries) can be broken up into those that understand the value of 
>> goodwill and those that instead nickel-and-dime.
>> My local Potbelly (sandwich ship) every now and then will just say "No 
>> charge, this one's on us". This only happens around once every 30-40 times I 
>> go in, but they loyalty that it has created means that I go there **way** 
>> more often than I otherwise would. It also means that in the few times that 
>> something goes wrong/I have a bad experience, I don't really care.
>> 
>> The additional profit that they've made from having me as a loyal customer 
>> more than covers the cost of 1 free sammich every N. 
>> 
>> In many ways Markley seems similar - they feel like they understand that 
>> some things (like OOB) are annoying to deal with, and that the loyalty / 
>> goodwill provided by being "nice" more than repays the cost of the service.
> 
> As the person who created that product for Markley, I can tell you that is 
> precisely what we were thinking.
> 
> It cost us nearly nothing, made customers stickier, generated good will, and 
> created a chance to talk to them about cloud offerings or similar. The only 
> “catch” is you need a fiber xconn. The thinking was it was barely more than a 
> copper xconn for POTS yet you get gigabit instead of dialup, or you would 
> have used fiber to another ISP anyway.
> 
> Every serious colo has enough bandwidth that 2 Mbps won’t be noticed, 
> competent network engineers (one hopes), and free switch ports (or can get 
> them cheap). Why don’t they do this? Perhaps someone in finance feels it can 
> be “monetized”. I feel the monetization lowers adoption and kills the other 
> benefits Warren mentions above - which are worth a hell of a lot more than 
> the paltry sum they would get from billing a few customers.
> 
> -- 
> TTFN,
> patrick
> 
> PS: The guest SSID at Markley has no captive portal. It was a problem for 
> customers who wanted to have their equipment get on the wifi to download 
> images, etc, so we took it off.

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