Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-21 Thread Mike Leber via NANOG
Hurricane Electric recently (a few months ago) started measuring repeated announcements, repeated withdrawals, in addition to flapping prefixes. https://bgp.he.net/report/netstats#_flap Stats are organized by prefix, ASN, and peer IP relative to flapping prefixes, repeated announcements, and

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-19 Thread Romain Fontugne via NANOG
sday, February 19, 2025 02:13 To: Geoff Huston Cc: [IIJ] Fontugne Romain; NANOG Subject: Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 04:41:05PM +1100, Geoff Huston wrote: >Hi Romain > > We are seeing in RIS data a constant flow of update messages from a few > ASes

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-18 Thread Jared Mauch
On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 04:41:05PM +1100, Geoff Huston wrote: >Hi Romain > > We are seeing in RIS data a constant flow of update messages from a few > ASes, here is the list of the top prefixes: > > ┌─┬┬──┐ > │ prefix

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-11 Thread Alejandro Acosta
Hello, I've been following this thread, and I find it quite interesting. I’m curious if there is an official definition for "noisy prefix" (or perhaps "noisy AS"). Thank you, On 9/2/25 1:01 AM, Romain Fontugne via NANOG wrote: Hi, We are seeing in RIS data a constant flow of update mess

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-10 Thread Brian Knight via NANOG
On 2025-02-09 07:43, James Bensley wrote: * There are no knobs in existing BGP implementations to detect and limit this behaviour in anyway. 100% agreed. Looked into this a couple weeks ago on our $VENDOR_C gear, and we saw the prefixes Romain mentioned as well as many others in Geoff's repo

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-10 Thread Jared Mauch
I'm escalating this internally. I hope to have this resolved asap. - Jared On Sun, Feb 09, 2025 at 04:41:05PM +1100, Geoff Huston wrote: >Hi Romain > > We are seeing in RIS data a constant flow of update messages from a few > ASes, here is the list of the top prefi

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-10 Thread Philip Smith
half of Philip Smith Date: Monday, 10 February 2025 at 6:32 AM To: James Bensley Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP I guess all we can do is keep highlighting the problem (I highlight Geoff's BGP Update report almost every BGP Best Practice training I run here in AsiaPac, for e

RE: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-09 Thread Vasilenko Eduard via NANOG
riginal Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Romain Fontugne via NANOG Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2025 22:15 To: James Bensley ; NANOG ; Geoff Huston Subject: Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP Thanks James, great tool, I have bookmarked that. It has amazing examples of how absurd announcements

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-09 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Date: Monday, 10 February 2025 at 6:32 AM To: James Bensley Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP I guess all we can do is keep highlighting the problem (I highlight Geoff's BGP Update report almost every BGP Best Practice training I run here in AsiaPac, for example) - but how to make

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-09 Thread Philip Smith
Hi James, We see the same incredible noise from a few peers we have at RouteViews. So much so that they put quite a stress on our backend infrastructure (not only the collector itself, but the syncing of these updates back to our archive, and storage.) And, longer term, do researchers who use

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-09 Thread Randy Bush
hi james > I recall there was a conversation either here on NANOG or maybe it was > at the IETF, within the last few years, about different NOSes that > were / were not correctly identifying route updates received with no > changes to the existing RIB entry, and [not] forwarding the update > onwar

Re: [nanog] Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-09 Thread Block, Aaron via NANOG
AS36183 I > guess it is something worth looking at. > > Romain > > > From: Geoff Huston > Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2025 14:41 > To: [IIJ] Fontugne Romain > Cc: NANOG > Subject: Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP > > Hi Romain > > > We are s

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-09 Thread James Bensley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Romain, I have been looking at prefixes with large numbers of updates for a few years now. As Geoff pointed out, this is a long running problem and it’s not one that is going to (ever?) go away. I have auto-generated daily reports of general p

Re: [nanog] Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-09 Thread Romain Fontugne via NANOG
Thanks Aaron! Romain From: Block, Aaron Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 03:58 To: [IIJ] Fontugne Romain Cc: Geoff Huston; NANOG Subject: Re: [nanog] Noisy prefixes in BGP Hello, We are looking into this issue. Thank you, Aaron Block --- Aaron

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-09 Thread Romain Fontugne via NANOG
prefixes in BGP -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi Romain, I have been looking at prefixes with large numbers of updates for a few years now. As Geoff pointed out, this is a long running problem and it’s not one that is going to (ever?) go away. I have auto-generated daily reports

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-08 Thread Romain Fontugne via NANOG
y, February 9, 2025 14:41 To: [IIJ] Fontugne Romain Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP Hi Romain We are seeing in RIS data a constant flow of update messages from a few ASes, here is the list of the top prefixes: ┌─┬┬──┐ │

Re: Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-08 Thread Geoff Huston
Hi Romain > > We are seeing in RIS data a constant flow of update messages from a few ASes, > here is the list of the top prefixes: > > ┌─┬┬──┐ > │ prefix│ origin_asn │ num_announce │ > │ varchar │ varchar │int64 │

Noisy prefixes in BGP

2025-02-08 Thread Romain Fontugne via NANOG
Hi, We are seeing in RIS data a constant flow of update messages from a few ASes, here is the list of the top prefixes: ┌─┬┬──┐ │ prefix│ origin_asn │ num_announce │ │ varchar │ varchar │int64 │ ├───