RE: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-14 Thread Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc)
009 8:01 AM To: Mark Andrews Cc: NANOG list Subject: Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone! * Mark Andrews: > In message , > Nathan Malynn writes: >> Question about 2k38: Aren't most Unixoid systems using 64-bit clocks now? > > No. Even if they were you have 32 bit timestam

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-14 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mark Andrews: > In message , > Nathan Malynn writes: >> Question about 2k38: Aren't most Unixoid systems using 64-bit clocks now? > > No. Even if they were you have 32 bit timestamps in lots > of things that have to be handled even if time/time64 returns > a 64 bit timestamp.

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-14 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Nathan Malynn writes: > Question about 2k38: Aren't most Unixoid systems using 64-bit clocks now? No. Even if they were you have 32 bit timestamps in lots of things that have to be handled even if time/time64 returns a 64 bit timestamp. > On Fri, Feb 13, 2

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:08:12 -0600 Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Joe Greco said: > > FreeBSD used a 64-bit time_t for the AMD64 port pretty much right > > away. On the flip side, it used a 32-bit time_t for the Alpha > > port. I guess someone predicted "it wouldn't be a problem." > >

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Joe Greco said: > FreeBSD used a 64-bit time_t for the AMD64 port pretty much right away. > On the flip side, it used a 32-bit time_t for the Alpha port. I guess > someone predicted "it wouldn't be a problem." Tru64 on Alpha uses a 32 bit time_t (they have their own time64_t an

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Joe Greco
> Once upon a time, Nathan Malynn said: > > Question about 2k38: Aren't most Unixoid systems using 64-bit clocks now? > > Unix/POSIX systems use "time_t" to store the base time counter, which is > seconds since the epoch (1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC). Most platforms still > use a 32 bit time_t for c

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Eric Gearhart
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 6:06 PM, Nathan Malynn wrote: > Question about 2k38: Aren't most Unixoid systems using 64-bit clocks now? > Exactly! What are we going to do when we're at the end of the 2^64 epoch?? (after the sun burns out and.. oh wait) -- Eric http://nixwizard.net

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Nathan Malynn said: > Question about 2k38: Aren't most Unixoid systems using 64-bit clocks now? Unix/POSIX systems use "time_t" to store the base time counter, which is seconds since the epoch (1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC). Most platforms still use a 32 bit time_t for compatibility

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Nathan Malynn
Question about 2k38: Aren't most Unixoid systems using 64-bit clocks now? On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Ravi Pina said: >> Yes... that is more like the y2k38 problem on 03:14:07 UTC >> 2038-01-19... > > Oddly enough, the end of the current Unix epoch is

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Ravi Pina said: > Yes... that is more like the y2k38 problem on 03:14:07 UTC > 2038-01-19... Oddly enough, the end of the current Unix epoch is a prime. Not only that, it is a Mersenne prime, 2^31 - 1. Even more, it is the largest known Mersenne prime where its Mersenne number

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
You haven't lived until you've lived through an epoch. On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 06:54:54PM -0500, Ravi Pina wrote: > On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 06:49:49PM -0500, Steve Church wrote: > > Just in case you missed it. > > > > date -d "Fri Feb 13 23:31:30 UTC 2009" +%s > > > > It's like a really geeky y2

Re: Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Ravi Pina
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 06:49:49PM -0500, Steve Church wrote: > Just in case you missed it. > > date -d "Fri Feb 13 23:31:30 UTC 2009" +%s > > It's like a really geeky y2k without the potential cataclysm. :) > > Steve Yes... that is more like the y2k38 problem on 03:14:07 UTC 2038-01-19... ..

Happy 1234567890 everyone!

2009-02-13 Thread Steve Church
Just in case you missed it. date -d "Fri Feb 13 23:31:30 UTC 2009" +%s It's like a really geeky y2k without the potential cataclysm. :) Steve