> James Hess wrote:
>> For now.. with 1gigabit residential connections, BCP 38 OUGHT to be
>> Google's answer. If Google handles that properly, they _should_
>> make it mandatory that all traffic from residential customers be
>> filtered, in all cases, in order to only forward packets wi
On Feb 12, 2010, at 3:17 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
> BCP 38 is all fine and dandy, and you should implement it, but it's not
> going to stop the botnets.
Yup. Many have these devices they call "Routers" they buy locally that
translate spoofed addresses to some well-known outside "public" IP.
(T
James Hess wrote:
> For now.. with 1gigabit residential connections, BCP 38 OUGHT to be
> Google's answer. If Google handles that properly, they _should_
> make it mandatory that all traffic from residential customers be
> filtered, in all cases, in order to only forward packets with
> t
David Hubbard wrote:
> Residential computers with enough bandwidth to DoS
> hosting providers; that should be fun. Maybe it will
> encourage the incumbant ISP's to start offering users
> meaningful bgp communities since they won't be able
> to keep up with the abuse reports.
Residential custome
offer fiber to end users
> What do folks think?
I think it's a better use of their capital resources than paying big
fat bonuses to big fat executives.
Sounds like a well funded initiative that may provide an interesting
platform to explore new technologies and develop a new array of
appl
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
> It would be nice to hear from local folks about how the WiFi
> experiment in Mountain View worked out.
>
i use the mtview wifi almost everyday, and it works great
the last metrics i saw were presented by tropos and indicated that about
600g
> What do folks think?
I think it's a better use of their capital resources than paying big
fat bonuses to big fat executives.
Sounds like a well funded initiative that may provide an interesting
platform to explore new technologies and develop a new array of
applications.
It would be nice to he
I have gig copper ran all over my house. Handy for large file
transfers. I have fios as well, and wish it was faster. (yes, all I
know is it's a setting, it costs them nothing more)
--
Joel Esler
302-223-5974
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 10, 2010, at 8:02 PM, "Luan Nguyen"
wrote:
They do
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:00 PM, David Hubbard
wrote:
> Residential computers with enough bandwidth to DoS
> hosting providers; that should be fun. Maybe it will
Enough to DoS hosting providers based on _current_ practices. If 1g
FTTH catches on, hosting providers will probably want 10/100 Gig
They don't have a field in the MLS for that, but most people put the
description FTTH in.
There are quite a few communities with FTTH in the Wash DC metropolitan area
that is not FIOS. Openband is one of them serving my house. The 100M fiber
comes into a transition network converter and then to a
There are some FTTH deployments in the US, like the well known FIOS
to a number of lesser known municipal deployments in small towns.
If you want to live in a house that is served in this way, how do
you find it. I don't believe there is a "FTTH" field in MLS yet.
Would be nice to have a google
Are they going to use Google routers for the deployment?
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Charles N Wyble
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> http://googleblo
Our typical gambling/casino customer has maybe 1 - 2 Mbps available to
them. Pretty much anyone in the U.S. could DDoS them if they didn't
have their HTTP/HTTPS traffic proxied and there are plenty more
without any protection at all.
Jeff
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Tony Varriale wrote:
>>
Residential computers with enough bandwidth to DoS
hosting providers; that should be fun. Maybe it will
encourage the incumbant ISP's to start offering users
meaningful bgp communities since they won't be able
to keep up with the abuse reports.
David
That's already here today.
tv
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Scott Weeks wrote:
When you select 'nominate your community' you're taken to a 'create an
account' page. I doubt they'd consider Sunset Beach on the North Shore
of Oahu Hawaii anyway. That's kinda out there... ;-)
No but maybe Kailua (home of Obama's "western whitehous
--- ae...@cisco.com wrote:
From: Abdulkadir Egal
You can now nominate your community
http://www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi/public/options
---
When you select 'nominate your community' you're taken to a 'create an account'
page. I doubt they'd c
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Charles N Wyble wrote:
announced a v6 beta, and impulse.net for folks in the SoCal region. Not
sure of any other CLEC types offering v6, but if you are speak up!
I suspect you're more likely to find regional ISPs offering v6 than CLECs.
The latter seem driven by the sale
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> I honestly wonder if they will use ipv4 or ipv6 for their rollout...
> Could be interesting to watch!
>
Hopefully both. This could be one of the first large scale, dual stacked
offerings to end users. There is of course Comcast who recently
anno
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Charles N Wyble wrote:
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-10/google-plans-to-build-high-speed-fiber-optic-networks-update2-.html
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/think-big-with-gig-our-experimental.html
What do folks think?
Wonderful move - might breath life b
Hi Jared
You can now nominate your community
http://www.google.com/appserve/fiberrfi/public/options
Regards
Abdul
On 2/10/10 2:18 PM, "Jared Mauch" wrote:
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> On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:57 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote:
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>> Jared Mauch wrote:
>>> I think it's great!
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>>> I've been preparing to float a similar idea locally.
>>>
>>> If thi
Maybe they're getting their Ideas from the Irish :). Magnet (www.magnet.ie)
does a similar thing which started over four years ago. They offer fiber to
the home and you can use it for triple-play.
I believe when they started the offering, the bandwidth was (initially
intended to be) limited only b
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote:
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> On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Matt Simmons wrote:
>
>> I'm really interested in their distribution ideas, as well as the
>> bottleneck from the Google network to the rest of the internet.
>>
>> Ah, who am I kidding, it's not like anyone ca
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> Jared Mauch wrote:
>> I think it's great!
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>> I've been preparing to float a similar idea locally.
>>
>> If this is how they use their market cap, I would love for them to do it in
>> m
On Feb 10, 2010, at 4:15 PM, Matt Simmons wrote:
> I'm really interested in their distribution ideas, as well as the
> bottleneck from the Google network to the rest of the internet.
>
> Ah, who am I kidding, it's not like anyone cares about the rest of the
> internet, right?
The WSJ says: "In
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Charles N Wyble
wrote:
> Awesome write up.
>
> Has anyone in the NANOG community been approached by google? I mean
> presumably this would require a massive coordination effort with
> existing exchange points etc. Or is google going to simply build an
> entire long
From: Florian Weimer [mailto:f...@deneb.enyo.de]
>
> * David Hubbard:
>
> > Residential computers with enough bandwidth to DoS
> > hosting providers; that should be fun.
>
> How is this different from a typical dorm network?
> (Perhaps with all that P2P filtering software in place,
> it's a mer
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> I think it's great!
>
> I've been preparing to float a similar idea locally.
>
> If this is how they use their market cap, I would love for them to do it in
> my local market, which does seem to hold a near-and-dear place in the
* David Hubbard:
> Residential computers with enough bandwidth to DoS
> hosting providers; that should be fun.
How is this different from a typical dorm network?
(Perhaps with all that P2P filtering software in place,
it's a mere self-DoS nowadays, but the analogy was not
that far off five years
I'm really interested in their distribution ideas, as well as the
bottleneck from the Google network to the rest of the internet.
Ah, who am I kidding, it's not like anyone cares about the rest of the
internet, right?
--Matt
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ROFL
On 2/10/10 4:00 PM, David Hubbard wrote:
Residential computers with enough bandwidth to DoS
hosting providers; that should be fun. Maybe it will
encourage the incumbant ISP's to start offering users
meaningful bgp communities since they won't be able
to keep up with the abuse reports.
Dav
On 2/10/2010 12:30, Charles N Wyble wrote:
>
>
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-10/google-plans-to-build-high-s
peed-fiber-optic-networks-update2-.html
>
>
http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/think-big-with-gig-our-experiment
al.html
>
> What do folks think?
>
>
Residential compute
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 2:56 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 2/10/2010 12:30, Charles N Wyble wrote:
> >
> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-10/google-plans-to-build-high-speed-fiber-optic-networks-update2-.html
> >
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/think-big-with-gig-our-experimental
I think it's great!
I've been preparing to float a similar idea locally.
If this is how they use their market cap, I would love for them to do it in my
local market, which does seem to hold a near-and-dear place in the heart of
some google C* types.
- Jared
* Local details/breakdown: http://p
On 2/10/2010 12:30, Charles N Wyble wrote:
> http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-02-10/google-plans-to-build-high-speed-fiber-optic-networks-update2-.html
> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/think-big-with-gig-our-experimental.html
>
> What do folks think?
>
Optimistic view: It can force
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http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/02/think-big-with-gig-our-experimental.html
What do folks think?
Granted it's very early on, and g00g
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