On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
http://www.coralcdn.org/
Nice, looks very much like the thing I was advocating. Hard part is
getting authorities et al interested in such an "ad hoc" solution.
Preferrably they could do both and then we can see which one works best in
an emergenc
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
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>> In a real crisis, redundancy rules.
>
> ... and simplicity.
>
> It's always "fun" when those outages pages rely on sql backends etc, so
> they're capable of tens or hundreds of users, so the
However it doesn't scale
Anyone who's seen the "fail whale" might argue the same about Twitter.
Cheers,
Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University
, resources, and internal inertia
more of than not develop and grow networks that aren't BCP-friendly.
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org]
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 3:40 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: Fire, Power loss at Fisher Plaza in Seattle
Ver
Le samedi 04 juillet 2009 à 16:58 +0200, Michael Hallgren a écrit :
> Le samedi 04 juillet 2009 à 10:47 -0400, Jeffrey Lyon a écrit :
> > Personally, I find it difficult to take Twitter seriously. It seems
> > like more of a kids toy than a business tool. Something like a
> > blogspot account would
In article
<16720fe00907040747k67ca1206kb871420deb5e8...@mail.gmail.com>, Jeffrey
Lyon writes
Personally, I find it difficult to take Twitter seriously. It seems
like more of a kids toy than a business tool. Something like a
blogspot account would make a lot more sense.
That's the kind of "ma
Le samedi 04 juillet 2009 à 10:47 -0400, Jeffrey Lyon a écrit :
> Personally, I find it difficult to take Twitter seriously. It seems
> like more of a kids toy than a business tool. Something like a
> blogspot account would make a lot more sense.
Yes.
What about (continue to) use old email (inc l
Personally, I find it difficult to take Twitter seriously. It seems
like more of a kids toy than a business tool. Something like a
blogspot account would make a lot more sense.
Jeff
On 7/4/09, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
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> On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:17 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>
> > In article
> <78
In article ,
Marshall Eubanks writes
That's a great idea, use some lame Web 2.0 trend to communicate with
actual real life customers.
I would assume they figured it was better than just remaining silent.
I'm about to recommend to an organisation that it [a twitter account]
is better than
On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:17 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
In article <786ba8c0-b534-40ff-9126-1e33bd11c...@americafree.tv>,
Marshall Eubanks writes
That's a great idea, use some lame Web 2.0 trend to communicate with
actual real life customers.
I would assume they figured it was better than just re
In article <200907041222.naa23...@sunf10.rd.bbc.co.uk>, Brandon
Butterworth writes
Paying a lot more to host the website with higher "burst" capacity
during an emergency, isn't an option.
The only other idea I've had is to sign all the customers up to receive
an SMS via some sort of broadcast s
> Paying a lot more to host the website with higher "burst" capacity
> during an emergency, isn't an option.
>
> The only other idea I've had is to sign all the customers up to receive
> an SMS via some sort of broadcast service (the news will fit easily in
> one SMS).
If the event is suitably
In article <786ba8c0-b534-40ff-9126-1e33bd11c...@americafree.tv>,
Marshall Eubanks writes
That's a great idea, use some lame Web 2.0 trend to communicate with
actual real life customers.
I would assume they figured it was better than just remaining silent.
I'm about to recommend to an organ
On Jul 3, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
That's a great idea, use some lame Web 2.0 trend to communicate with
actual real life customers.
I would assume they figured it was better than just remaining silent.
Regards
Marshall
Jeff
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Marshall Eubanks
On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 13:21 -0700, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
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> >
> >Earth is a single point of failure, where is your backup site?
>
> [TLB:] Given that all my customers are on Earth, I don't need one if my
> customers also are "down".
Bad Day !
That's a great idea, use some lame Web 2.0 trend to communicate with
actual real life customers.
Jeff
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
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> On Jul 3, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Ben Carleton wrote:
>
>> Yes it was.
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
>>
>>> Wasn't
On Jul 3, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Ben Carleton wrote:
Yes it was.
On Jul 3, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
Wasn't Authorize.net affected by this? We received a support ticket
about why Authorize.net is down today (I don't know either, I don't
ask too many questions).
Authorize.net was fo
Power to some of the affected sections of the building has been restored via
existing onsite generators. The central power risers cannot be connected to
current generators in a timely manner due to excessive damage to the
electrical switching equipment (and those generators may still be in
standin
In a message written on Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 03:22:14PM -0400, Sean Donelan
wrote:
> Are you better off with a single "tier 4" data center, multiple
> "tier 1" data centers, or something in between?
It depends entirely on your dependency on connectivity.
One extreme is something like a Central O
Yes it was.
On Jul 3, 2009, at 4:29 PM, Jeffrey Lyon wrote:
Wasn't Authorize.net affected by this? We received a support ticket
about why Authorize.net is down today (I don't know either, I don't
ask too many questions).
Jeff
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes
wrote:
Earth
Wasn't Authorize.net affected by this? We received a support ticket
about why Authorize.net is down today (I don't know either, I don't
ask too many questions).
Jeff
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 4:21 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
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>
>>
>>Earth is a single point of failure, where is your backup site?
>
>
>
>Earth is a single point of failure, where is your backup site?
[TLB:] Given that all my customers are on Earth, I don't need one if my
customers also are "down".
> Earth is a single point of failure, where is your backup site?
This reminds me of the 1996 thread about how MAE-East still had no
generator. Same topic, roughly, some of the same people (hi, Sean).
Sure, the line about the Earth SPOF is catchy, but in terms of more
likely scenarios: how many pe
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009, William Herrin wrote:
There is a useful standard: ANSI/TIA-942. It offers specifications for
four tiers of data centers ranging from tier 1 (a basic data center
with no redundancy) to tier 4 (fully fault tolerant).
Are you better off with a single "tier 4" data center, multi
-Original Message-
From: Tomas L. Byrnes [mailto:t...@byrneit.net]
Sent: Fri 7/3/2009 10:20 AM
To: David Hubbard; NANOG list
Subject: RE: Fire, Power loss at Fisher Plaza in Seattle
This begs the question of what basic parameters should be for a "carrier
hotel" or co-lo.
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 1:20 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
> This begs the question of what basic parameters should be for a
> "carrier hotel" or co-lo. [...] The old NEBS standards were too much
> of a straightjacket.
Tomas,
There is a useful standard: ANSI/TIA-942. It offers specifications for
four
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2009415571_apwafisherpla
zafire1stldwritethru.html
-Original Message-
From: David Hubbard [mailto:dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com]
Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 1:05 PM
To: NANOG list
Subject: RE: Fire, Power loss at Fisher Plaza in Seattle
Tomas L. Byrnes wrote:
> This begs the question of what basic parameters should be for a "carrier
> hotel" or co-lo.
>
> Given that we're getting designated "Critical Infrastructure", we'd
> getter start coming up with some, or we'll have them defined for us.
>
> The old NEBS standards were too m
is life in the current Internet: Overpromise, and Underdeliver.
>-Original Message-
>From: David Hubbard [mailto:dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com]
>Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 10:05 AM
>To: NANOG list
>Subject: RE: Fire, Power loss at Fisher Plaza in Seattle
>
>From: Seth Matt
Darren Bolding wrote:
>
> Interestingly, this building is also the production studios for several
> Seattle TV and radio stations.
>
> There is no ETA for resolution.
>
Apparently it took authorize.net with it, too:
http://twitter.com/authorizenet
~Seth
Multiple folks on Twitter who are in the area are reporting a 5-6 hour
ETA.
-Joe
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ipv4: http://www.disconformity.net [ 72.29.169.48/28 ]
ipv6: http://ipv6.disconformity.net [ 2001:48c0:1001:1::/64 ]
blog: http://www.mainlined.org
Fisher Plaza, a self-styled carrier hotel in Seattle, and home to multiple
datacenter and colocation providers, has had a major issue in one of its
buildings late last night, early this morning.
The best information I am aware of is that there was a failure in the
main/generator transfer switch whi
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