Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-05-01 Thread TGLASSEY
Bill - anything that puts another routable network alongside of the card processing info is in scope. The real; issue is that the PCI-SSC decided to formally create a policy to hold the auditors harmless in their actions and that is about to change. Todd On 5/1/2014 8:52 AM, William Herrin w

Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-05-01 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Alain Hebert wrote: > Bill & Telnet... > > I hope that QSA didn't let you keep that telnet facing any > public interface without any protection. Hi Alain, The point I made, successfully, was that it was outside the firewall hence out of scope for the a

Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-05-01 Thread Alain Hebert
ther reason PCI is not necessarily > about security > > David > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Ulf Zimmermann > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 8:36 PM > To: William Herrin > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re

RE: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-04-30 Thread David Hubbard
rs (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report) The auditors VMware sent to us were just as bad. To ensure we weren't running "rogue" ESX(i) servers or WorkStation, they made us provide full arp/cam tables. Then a list of the virtual machines. "Oh look, this MAC isn't lis

Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-04-30 Thread Ulf Zimmermann
The auditors VMware sent to us were just as bad. To ensure we weren't running "rogue" ESX(i) servers or WorkStation, they made us provide full arp/cam tables. Then a list of the virtual machines. "Oh look, this MAC isn't listed as one of your virtual machines". It isn't because it was running on vi

Re: Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-04-30 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 4/30/2014 11:30 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> And in that discussion, we ascertained that what the PCI standard actually >> says, and what you need to do in order to get unclued boneheaded auditors >> to sign the piece of paper, ar

Dealing with auditors (was Re: We hit half-million: The Cidr Report)

2014-04-30 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/30/2014 11:30 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014 15:40:43 -, Jamie Bowden said: You're not funny. And if you're not joking, you're wrong. We just went over this on this very list two weeks ago. And in that discussion, we ascertained that what the PCI standard ac