On 01/08/2019 15:14, Nick Olsen wrote:
> It roams on 3UK. And works fine. Albeit the LTE deployment isn't near as
> wide there as it is in the US. And you end up on HSDPA pretty frequently.
To the this point, I've a Three contract here (UK). It has slightly been
frustrating recently, I'll admit.
On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 at 02:36, Ryan Gelobter wrote:
>
> Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear
> console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3
> countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddl
According to
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/7/12/12159210/google-project-fi-three-network-international-roaming-speed
,
Project/Google Fi added 3/Hutchinson as a native carrier in the UK in the
same way that Sprint/T-Mob/US Cellular networks provide service in the US.
One of Hutch's
Tom
> On 1 Aug 2019, at 03:55, Tom Hill wrote:
>
> Are you suggesting Fi because of:
>
> "When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per
> minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra
> data charges outside of the US), and texting is free."
>
> Erg
I've got a line on my Fi account that almost exclusively roams in the UK.
Only been on-net in the US a few times and they've never complained about
excessive roaming.
It roams on 3UK. And works fine. Albeit the LTE deployment isn't near as
wide there as it is in the US. And you end up on HSDPA pre
When using a data-only Fi SIM (which are free if you have an account, just pay
the bandwidth), they always just act as a T-Mobile US MVNO and route back
through the US. Still, latency aside, I've found it incredibly reliable (plus
in many countries you can pick from multiple networks).
If you h
On 01/08/2019 03:19, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
> Google Fi
Are you suggesting Fi because of:
"When outside the United States, cellular phone calls cost $0.20 per
minute, data costs the same $10 per gigabyte (i.e. there are no extra
data charges outside of the US), and texting is free."
Ergo, relative
o:rya...@atwgpc.net>> wrote:
>> Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear
>> console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3
>> countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to
>
8:35 Ryan Gelobter wrote:
>> Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear
>> console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3
>> countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking to
>> O
Google Fi
On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 18:35 Ryan Gelobter wrote:
> Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on
> Opengear console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider
> for all 3 countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly
Anyone have recommendations for providers who I can use for LTE on Opengear
console servers in the UK, Netherlands, and Singapore? 1 provider for all 3
countries would be great but I'll take what I can get. Oddly when talking
to Opengear they don't really have any great advice. We use V
, nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:05:36 PM
Subject: Re: Console Servers
Why am I picturing you rigging up a Particle Electron as a dongle to each
device you want remote access to?
Owen
On Sep 19, 2018, at 02:21 , Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote:
Exc
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> From: "Saku Ytti"
> To: "James Bensley"
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> On Sep 19, 2018, at 01:50 , Saku Ytti wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
>> In some DCs I've done mutual OOB swaps with other telcos in the same
>> suite, this is usually cheap or free (excluding the one time xconnect
>
> We consciously decided to not ask or accept OOB swaps, because of fear
> that they mig
.
From: NANOG on behalf of Erik Sundberg
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 7:27:49 PM
To: Jun Tanaka; nanog@nanog.org; Alan Hannan; NANOG
Subject: RE: Console Servers
Perle IOLAN SCS series is great. We have them all over the United States.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Jun Tanaka
Note: newer Lantronix don't require Java for the config interface at all.
Also note that you can organize OOBM and in band management with
https://guacamole.apache.org/ if needed.
On Wed, Sep 19, 2018 at 12:47 PM Jeremy Bresley wrote:
> On 9/19/18 04:40, James Bensley wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Sep
On 9/19/18 04:40, James Bensley wrote:
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 14:38, Alan Hannan wrote:
I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternate serial port manager.
Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used
portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using O
"
To: "James Bensley"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:04:58 AM
Subject: Re: Console Servers
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 11:54, James Bensley wrote:
> I forgot to mention, it also depends how "out" of band your OOB needs
> to be. We us
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 11:54, James Bensley wrote:
> I forgot to mention, it also depends how "out" of band your OOB needs
> to be. We use Ciena 6500s for our DWDM infrastructure and they have a
> wayside channel (like various DWDM vendors), so it's a separate
> channel over the same physical fib
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 09:50, Saku Ytti wrote:
> I think WAN indeed is very market situational, and if you need to
> support world, it is beneficial to have solution which supports many
> WAN options, without needing external boxes and external power bricks.
> We try to do just ethernet, but even
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:26, Saku Ytti wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 16:39, Alan Hannan wrote:
>
> > Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I
> > used portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and
> > they work fairly well but the price i
Hey,
> In some DCs I've done mutual OOB swaps with other telcos in the same
> suite, this is usually cheap or free (excluding the one time xconnect
We consciously decided to not ask or accept OOB swaps, because of fear
that they might be provisioned outside processes which might make it
impossibl
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 14:38, Alan Hannan wrote:
>
> I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternate serial port manager.
>
> Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used
> portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and they work
> fairly w
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 15:26, Saku Ytti wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 16:39, Alan Hannan wrote:
>
> > Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I
> > used portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and
> > they work fairly well but the price i
Perle IOLAN SCS series is great. We have them all over the United States.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Jun Tanaka
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 10:52 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org; Alan Hannan ; NANOG
Subject: Re: Console Servers
How about SMART CS series by Seiko solutions?
https://www.seiko
How about SMART CS series by Seiko solutions?
https://www.seiko-sol.co.jp/en/products/console-server/
--
Jun Tanaka - NetComBB/S.N.I
Behalf Of Christopher Morrow
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:04 AM
To: Sameer Khosla
Cc: nanog list
Subject: Re: Console Servers
a vote for (so far so good) the nodegrid ZPE devices.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:54 AM Sameer Khosla
mailto:skho...@neutraldata.com>> wrote:
My favorite a
If anyone is looking for a product that is reasonably priced and is still being
produced/update, the ADVA Optical (aka MRV, aka Xyplex) console servers still
work great
https://www.advaoptical.com/en/products/network-infrastructure-assurance/lx-series
From their specs:
4, 8, 16, 32 and 48
a vote for (so far so good) the nodegrid ZPE devices.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 8:54 AM Sameer Khosla
wrote:
> My favorite are the lantronix SLC console servers. Fairly bullet-proof,
> they are one of those devices that just work. Can usually be picked up
> used ~$300 for 32 o
My favorite are the lantronix SLC console servers. Fairly bullet-proof, they
are one of those devices that just work. Can usually be picked up used ~$300
for 32 or 48 port varieties in good condition if you aren’t in the biggest
hurry.
Sk.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Alan Hannan
Sent
I have been deploying Cyclades TS3000 boxes that I can sometimes find
for about $75 each on eBay. The down side is the firmware is a bit old
so the SSH daemon doesn't really support current ciphers. The other
downside is the CLI ia a bit cumbersome.
Tim
On 9/18/18 8:43 AM, Andrew Latham wrote:
Alan
There are maybe too many options out there. The used Cyclades are the
lowest cost entry point. An ideal solution might be
https://freetserv.github.io/ but some assembly required. I have Lantronix
OOB solutions in my lab. Most modern servers come with some SOL options so
I will assume this is
; From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:49 AM
> To: Alan Hannan
> Cc: NANOG
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Console Servers
>
> I'm deploying new to me Cisco 2811s for console and OOB access.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
I'm a big fan of Raritan's DSX2 gear. Access to serial via ssh or web
interface, and the web interface is HTML5, not Java, which is a big
advantage if you ever want to use that. I use a bunch of them in
production as well and they've been rock solid when I've needed them for
managing Cisco, Junip
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:36 AM, Alan Hannan wrote:
> Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy.
On Tue, Sep 18, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> I'm deploying new to me Cisco 2811s for console and OOB access.
>
Agree. 2811, 2850s and 3845's are dirt cheap on ebay, the nm-32a'
Look into OpenGear, we've tested out a couple different products that we've
implemented in remote offices to replace our 2800's.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:49 AM
To: Alan Hannan
Cc: NANOG
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Console
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> --------
> *From: *"Alan Hannan"
> *To: *"NANOG"
> *Sent: *Tuesday, September 18, 2018 8:36:33 AM
> *Subject: *Console Servers
>
> I'd like your input on suggestions for a
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 16:39, Alan Hannan wrote:
> Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used
> portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and they work
> fairly well but the price is fairly high. I use the CM7100 and IM7100.
Out of curio
What we did (and it fits our needs)
SeaLevel (SeaLink Familly) with a Zotak.
We got both Win/Linux/BSD debugging/monitoring station (with 2
1Gbps, 1 MGMT 1 Mirror) and up to 16 serials ports in 1U.
( With some DYI )
I'm sure you can get a better density if you check with them
2018 8:36:33 AM
Subject: Console Servers
I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternate serial port manager.
Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I used
portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and they work
fairly well but
Depending on the budget, refurbished Cyclades off ebay do the job well. Very
solid and proven products, we still run few dated from 2003 …
-Stan
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Alan Hannan
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:37 AM
To: NANOG
Subject: Console Servers
I'd like your inp
I'd like your input on suggestions for an alternate serial port manager.
Long ago I used Cisco 2511/2611 and was fairly happy. A little later I
used portmaster and was less so. Recently I've been using Opengear and
they work fairly well but the price is fairly high. I use the CM7100 and
IM7100
The Brothers WISP
- Original Message -
From: "James Milko"
To: "Randy Carpenter"
Cc: "Michael Starr" , "nanog"
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:38:15 AM
Subject: Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers
How is cell reception in m
We have >100 AT&T units deployed and about 35 Verizon units and have had
virtually no issues with call home via openvpn. All opengear ACM7xxx
series.
We are using machine to machine plans from marketplace.att.com. Used to be
a great deal, the new plans are still “fair” and better than standard
co
On 8 February 2018 at 06:48, Michael Rave wrote:
> At all my sites I use Air Console with an OOB IP connection from another ISP.
> Sometimes this is free since it is barely being used or I’m being charged a
> very small amount . Other times I exchange an OOB IP connection. So I get one
> from
> On 6 Feb 2018, at 23:34, Michael Starr wrote:
>
> I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as
> a disaster out-of-band management solution in your data centers? If not,
> what are the alternatives? If so, are there any recommendations for
We get static IP's to facilitate monitoring that the OOB remains online (easier
to hit a non-changing IP than getting false positives for outage between an IP
change and DDnS or whatever other type of update needs to happen), and it also
makes IPSec VPN easy if your roving sysadmins know what IP
Static IPs are useful for connecting to the "home" site. If our main office is
offline for some reason, it is nice to be able to quickly connect via cellular
OoB.
I agree that other solutions (dial-home, or private network) make sense for
satellite sites.
thanks,
-Randy
- On Feb 7, 2018
Lots of references to static IPs from cellular providers for OoB access in
this thread. Why? It seems like a dial-home scheme is an obvious solution
here, whether it's Opengear's Lighthouse product, openvpn, or whatever...
Do you all have a security directive that demands whitelisted IP addresses?
good signal, some buildings might be a little tough if theres alot of
obstruction.
hope this helps
chris
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 9:34 AM, Michael Starr wrote:
> Hello NANOGers,
>
>
>
> I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as
> a disaster
At the sites, are you installing external antennae's?
-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Kenneth McRae
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 10:25 AM
To: Michael Starr
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers
Ye
>
> Hello NANOGers,
>
>
>
> I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as
> a disaster out-of-band management solution in your data centers? If not,
> what are the alternatives? If so, are there any recommendations for
> pay-as-you-go cell
bit painful at 56k, but it's usable.
Ed
-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of James Milko
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:38 AM
To: Randy Carpenter
Cc: Michael Starr ; nanog
Subject: Re: Console Servers & Cellular Providers
How is
Going to depend entirely on the data center. I've got OpenGear boxes deployed
in a variety of places, using Verizon LTE with static IP. One Level 3 colo I'm
in I had to buy a high gain directional antenna to get the signal strength up
above -80, where below that you're lucky to get a reasonabl
My $dayJob experience with cell to console in the larger locations has been
poor, verging on unacceptable.
From: NANOG on behalf of James Milko
Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 11:38 AM
To: Randy Carpenter
Cc: Michael Starr; nanog
Subject: Re: Console
How is cell reception in multi-story data centers/carrier hotels? Good
enough for remote management?
JM
. There have been some issues with cellular stability in some releases.
thanks,
-Randy
- On Feb 6, 2018, at 9:34 AM, Michael Starr ekim9...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hello NANOGers,
>
>
>
> I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as
> a di
at 1:59 PM, Andrew Latham wrote:
> >
> > Almost exactly a year ago https://mailman.nanog.org/
> pipermail/nanog/2017-February/090293.html
> >
> > historical notes first.>
> >
> >> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Michael Starr
> wrote:
> >> Hel
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Michael Starr wrote:
>> Hello NANOGers,
>>
>>
>>
>> I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as
>> a disaster out-of-band management solution in your data centers? If not,
>> what are the
Almost exactly a year ago
https://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2017-February/090293.html
On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 8:34 AM, Michael Starr wrote:
> Hello NANOGers,
>
>
>
> I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as
> a disaster out-of-band m
Hello NANOGers,
I am wondering if people still use console servers with cellular service as
a disaster out-of-band management solution in your data centers? If not,
what are the alternatives? If so, are there any recommendations for
pay-as-you-go cellular service? Apologies if this is too
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