Except for AT&T, most incumbents here aren't also mobile wireless providers, so 
that is an option in most cases for truly OOB. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Saku Ytti" <s...@ytti.fi> 
To: "James Bensley" <jwbens...@gmail.com> 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:04:58 AM 
Subject: Re: Console Servers 

On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 11:54, James Bensley <jwbens...@gmail.com> wrote: 

> I forgot to mention, it also depends how "out" of band your OOB needs 
> to be. We use Ciena 6500s for our DWDM infrastructure and they have a 
> wayside channel (like various DWDM vendors), so it's a separate 
> channel over the same physical fibre. For anything except a fibre cut 
> it seems to work. 

This is gold standard for incumbents, as they don't have anything true 
out-of-band they can consistently buy, everything travels in their 
network at some point anyhow. 

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++ytti 

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