On 4/26/2010 8:07 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
Don't forget the hotspot vendor that returns an address of 0.0.0.1 for
every A query if you have previously done an query for the same
name (and timed out). That's a fun one.
so... a
On 2010-04-26, at 11:07, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
>
>> Don't forget the hotspot vendor that returns an address of 0.0.0.1 for
>> every A query if you have previously done an query for the same
>> name (and timed out). That's a fun
On 2010.04.23 02:50, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> http://onlyv6.com
> All findings will be publicly posted.
I'm currently evaluating my options to best automate some of the
findings that I've got so far (I didn't ask for a common format for
replies, so most will be manual).
However, an interesting i
In message ,
Christopher Morrow writes:
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote=
> :
>
> > Don't forget the hotspot vendor that returns an address of 0.0.0.1 for
> > every A query if you have previously done an query for the same
> > name (and timed out). =A0That's a fun o
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
> Don't forget the hotspot vendor that returns an address of 0.0.0.1 for
> every A query if you have previously done an query for the same
> name (and timed out). That's a fun one.
so... aside from the every 3 months bitching on this
On 24 Apr 2010 16:15, Jack Bates wrote:
> valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
>> No, the problems are probably further back in time. We first started
>> turning up IPv6 back in 1997 or so. There's a *very* good chance
>> that we turned it off a decade ago (or whenever people *first*
>> started listing
Its a shame there is not a pair of images on this site - one originated
from a v4 only box, one a v6 only box. The img src= could point to the
I've been working on something in this direction this past week, that is
primarilly for user facing debugging purposes (versus for a content
provider)
On Apr 24, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Kevin Buhr wrote:
> valdis.kletni...@vt.edu writes:
>>
>> Ours are currently intentionally configured to not issue queries over IPv6,
>> because at one time, there were *so many* sites that listed unreachable
>> quad-A
>> NS records. Our DNS guy is more than willing
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu writes:
>
> Ours are currently intentionally configured to not issue queries over IPv6,
> because at one time, there were *so many* sites that listed unreachable quad-A
> NS records. Our DNS guy is more than willing to revisit that config switch.
>
> Anybody have some statis
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
No, the problems are probably further back in time. We first started turning up
IPv6 back in 1997 or so. There's a *very* good chance that we turned it off a
decade ago (or whenever people *first* started listing quad-A's in NS entries)
due to breakage and never ac
FYI - Comcast has dual stacked enabled recursive name servers, see the
following web site:
http://dns.comcast.net/dns-ip-addresses3.php
John
On 4/23/10 8:42 AM, "Jared Mauch" wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Dave Hart wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 08:26 UTC, Steve Bertrand
On 23/04/2010, at 6:26 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote:
>
> This is a personal research project, in which I want to learn about the
> health of connectivity, and about other situations that causes breakage
> that I haven't considered before.
>
A very fine objective in my opinion. There are a few simil
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On 23/04/2010 07:50, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> This is a no-brainer, because I know that everyone who reads this will
> visit the link. All I request is an off-list message stating if you
> could get there or not (it won't be possible to parse my weblogs
- Original Message -
> From: "Leo Bicknell"
> To: "NANOG"
> Sent: Saturday, 24 April, 2010 7:33:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Connectivity to an IPv6-only site
> In a message written on Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 01:08:30PM -0400,
> valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wr
In a message written on Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 01:08:30PM -0400,
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
> No, the problems are probably further back in time. We first started turning
> up
> IPv6 back in 1997 or so. There's a *very* good chance that we turned it off a
> decade ago (or whenever people *firs
On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 02:45:05 +1000, Mark Andrews said:
> Given I've been running dual stack nameservers for the last 7 years
> and never noticed any real problems I expect his problems are actually
> closer to home.
No, the problems are probably further back in time. We first started turning up
I
On 4/23/10 10:47 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On Apr 23, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
Given I've been running dual stack nameservers for the last 7 years
and never noticed any real problems I expect his problems are actually
closer to home.
Mark
I mirror this experience, I've not seen a
On Apr 23, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
> Given I've been running dual stack nameservers for the last 7 years
> and never noticed any real problems I expect his problems are actually
> closer to home.
>
> Mark
I mirror this experience, I've not seen any issues having the nameservers
On 4/23/10 3:49 AM, Dave Hart wrote:
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 08:26 UTC, Steve Bertrand wrote:
- in WHOIS, I have ns1 and ns2.onlyv6.com listed as the authoritative
name servers
- both of these servers *only* have IPv6 addresses
Which seems a bit far afield from reality to me. Yes, there are
In message <5598.1272031...@localhost>, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu writes:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:34:43 PDT, Owen DeLong said:
>
> > Bottom line, if your ISP's resolvers cannot issue queries over IPv6,
> > that is a problem that is relatively easy for them to solve. It is worth
> > putting pressur
...
> Has nothing to do about being stupid... let's rephrase your statement
> and put a positive spin on it as such:
>
> "I've heard about IPv6, but don't know very much about it. I think that
> I should know more, but am a bit confused as to where to begin. What do
> I do first?".
>
> Then I'd sa
On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:43 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 4/23/2010 03:00, Franck Martin wrote:
>> Go get an airport express, install it get your Internet then click
>> ipv6 enable box and that's it. Seriously!
>
> OK--I'll but that on the shopping list. (I'll also look around for
> something fo
On 4/23/2010 04:49, Dave Hart wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 08:26 UTC, Steve Bertrand wrote:
>> - in WHOIS, I have ns1 and ns2.onlyv6.com listed as the authoritative
>> name servers
>>
>> - both of these servers *only* have IPv6 addresses
>
> Which seems a bit far afield from reality to me. Y
On 4/23/2010 03:26, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> On 2010.04.23 03:35, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>
>> >From my PC at home (Cox in Omaha) I can't even get a nameserver that
>> knows the site.
>
> Larry... let me explain why. Although you might not understand, others
> will, and you may remember this as somet
On 4/23/2010 03:00, Franck Martin wrote:
> Go get an airport express, install it get your Internet then click
> ipv6 enable box and that's it. Seriously!
OK--I'll but that on the shopping list. (I'll also look around for
something for the wired machinery as well.
--
Somebody should have said
On 4/23/2010 02:57, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> On 2010.04.23 03:39, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>> On 4/23/2010 02:35, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>>
>>> >From my PC at home (Cox in Omaha) I can't even get a nameserver that
>>> knows the site.
>>
>> I should point out that I am really stupid about v6--I don't know
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 06:34:43 PDT, Owen DeLong said:
> Bottom line, if your ISP's resolvers cannot issue queries over IPv6,
> that is a problem that is relatively easy for them to solve. It is worth
> putting pressure on your ISP to solve that problem.
Ours are currently intentionally configured t
On Apr 23, 2010, at 5:30 AM, Andy Davidson wrote:
>
> On 23 Apr 2010, at 07:50, Steve Bertrand wrote:
>
>> http://onlyv6.com
>
> Its a shame there is not a pair of images on this site - one originated from
> a v4 only box, one a v6 only box. The img src= could point to the image with
> a qu
On Apr 23, 2010, at 2:49 AM, Dave Hart wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 08:26 UTC, Steve Bertrand wrote:
>> - in WHOIS, I have ns1 and ns2.onlyv6.com listed as the authoritative
>> name servers
>>
>> - both of these servers *only* have IPv6 addresses
>
> Which seems a bit far afield from reali
On Apr 23, 2010, at 12:57 AM, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> On 2010.04.23 03:39, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>> On 4/23/2010 02:35, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>>
From my PC at home (Cox in Omaha) I can't even get a nameserver that
>>> knows the site.
>>
>> I should point out that I am really stupid about v6-
Mohacsi Janos wrote:
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Matthew Ford wrote:
On 23 Apr 2010, at 09:00, Franck Martin wrote:
Go get an airport express, install it get your Internet then click
ipv6 enable box and that's it. Seriously!
Hmm. Then why did I just replace my airport and my ISP to get
func
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On 4/23/2010 05:42, Jared Mauch wrote:
>
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Dave Hart wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 08:26 UTC, Steve Bertrand
>> wrote:
>>> - in WHOIS, I have ns1 and ns2.onlyv6.com listed as the
>>> authoritative name servers
>>>
>
On Apr 23, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>
> On Apr 23, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Dave Hart wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 08:26 UTC, Steve Bertrand wrote:
>>> - in WHOIS, I have ns1 and ns2.onlyv6.com listed as the authoritative
>>> name servers
>>>
>>> - both of these servers *only* hav
On Apr 23, 2010, at 5:49 AM, Dave Hart wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 08:26 UTC, Steve Bertrand wrote:
>> - in WHOIS, I have ns1 and ns2.onlyv6.com listed as the authoritative
>> name servers
>>
>> - both of these servers *only* have IPv6 addresses
>
> Which seems a bit far afield from reali
On 23 Apr 2010, at 07:50, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> http://onlyv6.com
Its a shame there is not a pair of images on this site - one originated from a
v4 only box, one a v6 only box. The img src= could point to the image with a
query string that was an automatically incrementing counter. Then yo
Godzilla vs. the Smog Monster
- Original Message
From: Dave Hart
To: Tim Franklin
Cc: NANOG
Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 12:57:47 PM
Subject: Re: Connectivity to an IPv6-only site
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:38 UTC, Tim Franklin wrote:
> Assuming your ISP is providing your DNS. W
es/P1952/default.asp
- Original Message
From: Tim Franklin
To: NANOG
Sent: Fri, April 23, 2010 12:38:21 PM
Subject: Re: Connectivity to an IPv6-only site
> Which seems a bit far afield from reality to me. Yes, there are lots
> of folks with IPv6 connectivity and v4-only recursive DNS serv
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:38 UTC, Tim Franklin wrote:
> Assuming your ISP is providing your DNS. What if I, as a new start-up
> in the IPv4-exhausted world, want to buy pure bit-pipes from my ISP,
> and be responsible for *everything* further up the stack? I don't believe
> this is entirely unc
> Which seems a bit far afield from reality to me. Yes, there are lots
> of folks with IPv6 connectivity and v4-only recursive DNS servers. I
> don't think ISPs will have problems setting aside a handful of IPv4
> addresses for authoritative DNS infrastructure to work around this
> until v6 trans
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 08:26 UTC, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> - in WHOIS, I have ns1 and ns2.onlyv6.com listed as the authoritative
> name servers
>
> - both of these servers *only* have IPv6 addresses
Which seems a bit far afield from reality to me. Yes, there are lots
of folks with IPv6 connectiv
On 2010.04.23 02:50, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> http://onlyv6.com
...email me with your v6 addr/AS whether you can/can't get to that site.
I want to thank everyone thus far for all of the feedback. I've received
at least four dozen off list replies, and expect many more after the
actual North Ameri
On 2010.04.23 03:28, Mohacsi Janos wrote:
> Hi,
> What is your method to discover who cannot connect to your webserver?
Earlier, in haste, I mistook your "What" for 'why' the first time I read
your question.
My method to discover is very clear cut... either you can get to the
site, or you ca
On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Matthew Ford wrote:
On 23 Apr 2010, at 09:00, Franck Martin wrote:
Go get an airport express, install it get your Internet then click ipv6 enable
box and that's it. Seriously!
Hmm. Then why did I just replace my airport and my ISP to get functioning IPv6?
Hint: 6t
On 2010.04.23 03:35, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>>From my PC at home (Cox in Omaha) I can't even get a nameserver that
> knows the site.
Larry... let me explain why. Although you might not understand, others
will, and you may remember this as something when you do use IPv6.
Believe me, nobody can reme
On 23 Apr 2010, at 09:00, Franck Martin wrote:
> Go get an airport express, install it get your Internet then click ipv6
> enable box and that's it. Seriously!
>
Hmm. Then why did I just replace my airport and my ISP to get functioning IPv6?
Hint: 6to4 != IPv6.
Mat
Go get an airport express, install it get your Internet then click
ipv6 enable box and that's it. Seriously!
Toute connaissance est une réponse à une question
On 23/04/2010, at 19:57, Steve Bertrand wrote:
On 2010.04.23 03:39, Larry Sheldon wrote:
On 4/23/2010 02:35, Larry Sheldon wrote:
On 2010.04.23 03:39, Larry Sheldon wrote:
> On 4/23/2010 02:35, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>
>> >From my PC at home (Cox in Omaha) I can't even get a nameserver that
>> knows the site.
>
> I should point out that I am really stupid about v6--I don't know if I
> should be able to find a nameserver or no
On 2010.04.23 03:28, Mohacsi Janos wrote:
> Hi,
> What is your method to discover who cannot connect to your webserver?
No. It's not *who* but *why*.
This is a personal research project. I'm trying to identify where
breakage happens when trying to connect to an IPv6-only network.
There are
On 4/23/2010 02:35, Larry Sheldon wrote:
>>From my PC at home (Cox in Omaha) I can't even get a nameserver that
> knows the site.
I should point out that I am really stupid about v6--I don't know if I
should be able to find a nameserver or not.
--
Somebody should have said:
A democracy is two
On 4/23/2010 01:50, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> This is a no-brainer, because I know that everyone who reads this will
> visit the link. All I request is an off-list message stating if you
> could get there or not (it won't be possible to parse my weblogs for
> those who can't):
>
> http://onlyv6.com
On 2010.04.23 02:50, Steve Bertrand wrote:
> This is a no-brainer, because I know that everyone who reads this will
> visit the link. All I request is an off-list message stating if you
> could get there or not (it won't be possible to parse my weblogs for
> those who can't):
>
> http://onlyv6.com
Hi,
What is your method to discover who cannot connect to your
webserver?
Regards,
Janos Mohacsi
Head of HBONE+ project
Network Engineer, Deputy Director of Network Planning and Projects
NIIF/HUNGARNET, HUNGARY
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