Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-13 Thread Curtis, Bruce via NANOG
e Video also does, but of course only if you're streaming to an >> IPv6-capable device. >> >> https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/detailed.php?country=us >> <https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/detailed.php?country=us> >> >> Definitely some laggards, but if y

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-11 Thread Tom Mitchell
https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 1:19 PM Jon Lewis wrote: > I'm not so sure about that. Our customers are all offered dual-stack > (DHCPv6, DHCPv6-PD). Do any of the common streaming services support v6 > yet? Last I checked, Hulu did not. > > On Tu

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-11 Thread Tom Mitchell
Hi Jon, Are you dual stack? v6 would solve some of these issues? On Tue, Oct 8, 2024 at 12:20 PM Jon Lewis wrote: > We started rolling out CGNAT about 6 months ago. It was smooth sailing > for the first few months, but we eventually did run into a number of > issues. > > Our customer base i

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-10 Thread Andrew Peterson via NANOG
e > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG <mailto:hilcostreambank@nanog.org>> On Behalf Of Lucien Hoydic via NANOG > Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 5:04 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org <mailto:nanog@nanog.org> > Subject: Re: CGNAT growing pains > > This

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-10 Thread Aaron Gould
Lee -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Lucien Hoydic via NANOG Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 5:04 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: CGNAT growing pains This message is from an EXTERNAL SENDER - be CAUTIOUS, particularly with links and attachments. Anyone know the penetra

RE: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-09 Thread Howard, Lee via NANOG
ts a support call. Lee Howard IPv4.Global -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of Jon Lewis Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2024 3:19 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: CGNAT growing pains [You don't often get email from jle...@lewis.org. Learn why this is important at https://aka.ms/LearnA

RE: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-09 Thread Howard, Lee via NANOG
8, 2024 5:04 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: CGNAT growing pains This message is from an EXTERNAL SENDER - be CAUTIOUS, particularly with links and attachments. Anyone know the penetration rate of IPV6 for home users (cable modem)? I know that some of the CPE doesn't even properly

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-09 Thread Lucien Hoydic via NANOG
Anyone know the penetration rate of IPV6 for home users (cable modem)? I know that some of the CPE doesn't even properly support IPV6 such as the stuff being handed out by RCN/Astound. We just got our IPV6 allocation from ARIN and everything here is now dual stack. Was relatively painless. O

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-09 Thread David Bass
You may have run in to this, but Hulu also limits (or they were before I canceled the service personally) the number of “homes” you can use it at, and they tracked this by IP. So, if your customer’s IP changes more than a few times a year they will not be able to use the service they’re paying for.

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-08 Thread Aaron Gould
We have ~60,000 subs on ftth, dsl and cable modem, behind several Juniper MX routers MX960's with MS-MPC-128G (ftth and cm) and MX104 with MS-MIC-16G (dsl) and doing well.  We a had some growing pains, issues, but were resolved with, app, eim, eif, and source ip load balancing on AMS interf

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-08 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/8/24 1:19 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: I'm not so sure about that.  Our customers are all offered dual-stack (DHCPv6, DHCPv6-PD).  Do any of the common streaming services support v6 yet?  Last I checked, Hulu did not. I just checked and it looks like Youtube and Netflix do which is a pretty g

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-08 Thread Jon Lewis
I'm not so sure about that. Our customers are all offered dual-stack (DHCPv6, DHCPv6-PD). Do any of the common streaming services support v6 yet? Last I checked, Hulu did not. On Tue, 8 Oct 2024, Michael Thomas wrote: Hi Jon, So is this easier than what the mobile carriers are doing -- 46

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-08 Thread Michael Thomas
Hi Jon, So is this easier than what the mobile carriers are doing -- 464xlat, isn't it? Probably a sizeable portion of the traffic would be running native v6, right? Obviously it wouldn't run into these sorts of problems. Mike On 10/8/24 12:19 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: We started rolling out CGNA

Re: CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-08 Thread C. Jon Larsen
We have had very good success with A10 vthunder on rural broadband co-op networks for Resi subscribers. No problems with the NAT aspect, literally 0. Operationally it just works. Games, streaming, xbox, nintendo switch, all just works. We typically do 32:1 or about 2000 udp/tcp ports allocated

CGNAT growing pains

2024-10-08 Thread Jon Lewis
We started rolling out CGNAT about 6 months ago. It was smooth sailing for the first few months, but we eventually did run into a number of issues. Our customer base is primarily FTTH with "dynamic" IP assignment via DHCP. Since connections are always-on, customer ONTs/routers get an IP assig