also, isp-embedded cdn caching was required to provide ipv6, iirc for most of mine, and I provided ipv6 subnets even if it was optional.  now i just need to enable ipv6 on the last mile broadband and I'll be in business!  i can't wait to see the results.  as I previously stated, I do not want to plan growth for my cgnat boundary...ipv6 is my (the) answer to relaxing the use of my cgnat boundary.  i've tested 6vpe successfully over my pre-existing ipv4 mpls l3vpn's, and it's just another rt import/export to get ipv6 flowing naturally out to the internet.

i've currently been testing ftth in my lab with calix cpe, and have successful ia_na (wan) and ia_pd (lan) prefix delegation working.  the linux engineer(s) I work with are just stumped at the moment on getting the new KEA dhcp server to provide all the same ISC dhcp v4 option handling that we want to carry into v6. any advice is welcome

-Aaron

On 10/9/2024 11:04 AM, Howard, Lee via NANOG wrote:
It's pretty high, at least in the U.S.

https://stats.labs.apnic.net/ipv6/US

Support in consumer electronics (TVs, game consoles) is weak, but a lot of home 
gateways are fine. Netflix and YouTube stream over IPv6, and I think Amazon 
Prime Video also does, but of course only if you're streaming to an 
IPv6-capable device.

https://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/detailed.php?country=us

Definitely some laggards, but if you haven't looked in a while, you might be 
surprised.


Lee

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Anyone know the penetration rate of IPV6 for home users (cable modem)? I know 
that some of the CPE doesn't even properly support IPV6 such as the stuff being 
handed out by RCN/Astound.

We just got our IPV6 allocation from ARIN and everything here is now dual 
stack. Was relatively painless.

On Tuesday, October 8th, 2024 at 3:19 PM, Jon Lewis <jle...@lewis.org> wrote:


I'm not so sure about that. Our customers are all offered dual-stack
(DHCPv6, DHCPv6-PD). Do any of the common streaming services support
v6 yet? Last I checked, Hulu did not.

On Tue, 8 Oct 2024, Michael Thomas wrote:

Hi Jon,

So is this easier than what the mobile carriers are doing --
464xlat, isn't it? Probably a sizeable portion of the traffic would
be running native v6, right? Obviously it wouldn't run into these sorts of 
problems.

Mike

On 10/8/24 12:19 PM, Jon Lewis wrote:

We started rolling out CGNAT about 6 months ago. It was smooth
sailing for the first few months, but we eventually did run into a
number of issues.

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