>> The question discussed is the practice of performing resource review
>> as a result of fraudulent applications.
>
> no. what was being discussed was transfers. you turned left, asserted
> that they were fraudulent, and told people to turn in their neighbors.
If a company can justify a /?? wit
On Apr 9, 2010, at 12:20 PM, David Conrad wrote:
>
>> The question discussed is the practice of performing resource review as a
>> result of fraudulent applications.
>
> Actually, no. The question was whether the practice of creating a company to
> hold IP addresses then selling that company
John,
On Apr 9, 2010, at 1:43 AM, John Curran wrote:
> ARIN's position follows RFC 2008
This seems to be contradicted by ARIN's (perfectly reasonable) policies
regarding the assignment of provider independent address space to end users.
As to whether addresses are assets, I suspect we'll have t
> The question discussed is the practice of performing resource review
> as a result of fraudulent applications.
no. what was being discussed was transfers. you turned left, asserted
that they were fraudulent, and told people to turn in their neighbors.
randy
On Apr 9, 2010, at 4:17 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>
> john, addresses are assets. ...
Randy - You may believe that IP addresses are assets; feel free to do so.
ARIN's position follows RFC 2008 and RFC 2050 and will continue to do so
until the community directs otherwise. For the legal discussion, s
>> Or are you indicating the mechanisms I described are in some way
>> fraudulent?
> Potentially, yes.
pfui. the current security level is chartreuse. you will get 15,000
free flier miles for spying on your neighbor.
john, addresses are assets. people will transfer assets. get over it.
two f
On 4/8/10 8:02 PM, John Curran wrote:
On Apr 8, 2010, at 7:51 PM, David Conrad wrote:
In the cases I'm aware of (which were some time ago), there was (to my
knowledge) no fraud involved.
If you see more recent cases of this occurring, please report them.
Or are you indicating the mechanisms
On Apr 8, 2010, at 7:51 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> John,
>
> In the cases I'm aware of (which were some time ago), there was (to my
> knowledge) no fraud involved.
If you see more recent cases of this occurring, please report them.
> Or are you indicating the mechanisms I described are in some w
John,
In the cases I'm aware of (which were some time ago), there was (to my
knowledge) no fraud involved.
Or are you indicating the mechanisms I described are in some way fraudulent?
Regards,
-drc
On Apr 8, 2010, at 12:46 PM, John Curran wrote:
> On Apr 8, 2010, at 3:51 PM, David Conrad wrot
On Apr 8, 2010, at 3:51 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> Sure they are. I personally know of several cases where addresses have been
> sold. Right now, people have to go through a bunch of foo, creating dummy
> companies to hold the IP address assets, transferring the assets, selling the
> dummy comp
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:39 PM, wrote:
> er... you misunderstand... there is no single "DFZ" anywhere...
> it is a fiction.
Meh. Fiction or no, it does a suitably effective job connecting my
users to my servers when and where they want to connect.
> last ebay transaction I
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 09:51:47AM -1000, David Conrad wrote:
> BIll,
>
> On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:39 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
> >> If you're not planning to announce a route into the DFZ, we have
> >> RFC1918 or IPv6's ULA, address pools that are 100% and completely free
> >> for your
BIll,
On Apr 8, 2010, at 9:39 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote:
>> If you're not planning to announce a route into the DFZ, we have
>> RFC1918 or IPv6's ULA, address pools that are 100% and completely free
>> for your use.
>
> er... you misunderstand... there is no single "DFZ" anywh
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 03:14:50PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:37 PM, wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 02:22:29PM -0400, William Herrin wrote:
> >> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:49 PM, Mr. James W. Laferriere
> >> >Try that fee while trying to make a living in a d
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