Re: Evaluating Tier 1 Internet providers

2013-08-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
a long way from being practically usable. At best you can aim your default/tie breaks towards networks you have "more faith in", but that doesn't mean much in practice. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Evaluating Tier 1 Internet providers

2013-08-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
the different strengths and weaknesses of each model, and probably end up buying from (at least) one of each to take advantage of this. Of course in reality 99% of people fail to understand any of this, and turn off their brains after thinking things like "1 > 2 so it must be better". :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: nLayer IP transit

2013-08-02 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
the routes that go into the system. That said, it still breaks some things just by having it enabled (like NSR, though I suppose one could argue that NSR breaks itself :P), so you might be better served with a netconf distribution of rules if you want to avoid those potential issues. -- Richar

Re: nLayer IP transit

2013-08-01 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
major router vendors pick it up and do better with it, I don't expect to see any major changes in this position any time soon. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: GTT/Inteliquent/nLayer

2013-07-31 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
in the world, which is why it hasn't really been promoted as a new product in many years. If you've heard differently, please contact me off-list. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Issues with level3?

2013-01-15 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
on the reverse path. Now, please go find a blunt object and hit yourself in the head as punishment for using the words "Class C" in 2013 in a non-historic or ironic context. Hard. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: [j-nsp] Krt queue issues

2013-01-08 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 11:10:16PM +0100, bas wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Richard A Steenbergen > wrote: > > PR 836197 > > That looks like a spanking new PR number to me. > The highest PR number I found in 12.2 release notes was 82. > R

Re: [j-nsp] Krt queue issues

2013-01-08 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ly encourage you to talk to your account team about PR 836197 and why 8-20+ minutes to install routes to the FIB is not acceptable to you. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Semi-automated L3 interface DNS records

2012-10-18 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
checking against the vlan tables. The later part was only tested on Cisco 6500s, and I haven't touched that code (or those boxes) in many many years, so no guarantees about using it on anything else. :) Out of date DNS PTRs in traceroute make baby jesus cry, so please use copiously.

Re: Real world sflow vs netflow?

2012-09-24 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
en some Juniper products, like EX (which is really Marvell ASICs with a JUNOS wrapper), support sFlow only. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: HE.net BGP origin attribute rewriting

2012-06-01 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ltiple exits, and then the next one down is origin code. If you can't reset origin code, you run the risk of a remote network being able to force your network to do something you probably don't want to do (or at least probably wouldn't want to do, if you had any idea what you we

Re: HE.net BGP origin attribute rewriting

2012-05-31 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
o influence path selection is bad... What's next, "organic routes, not from concentrate"? :P), which in the end turned out to be us sending the customer MEDs based on our IGP cost, other networks sending them MEDs of 0, and them not knowing enough to do something useful with the

Re: Did Internap lose all clue?

2011-10-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
eting crap asside, they aren't incorrect in pointing out that BGP really sucks as a way to pick a best path. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: 4.0.0.0/8?

2011-09-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
mer to hijack 12.0.0.0/8 because they don't prefix-list filter customers properly IIRC. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Cogent & HE

2011-06-09 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
sit free status. If your answer is "I like HE better than Cogent so I'm willing to overlook it", that's fine, but you're just making things up if you're trying to claim that they AREN'T causing this partition. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Cogent & HE

2011-06-09 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
nflating their customer base specifically so they CAN engage in these peering disputes. It's a perfectly valid tactic that has been used by the finest networks for years, but at least have the decency to admit it for what it is, that's all I'm saying. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Cogent & HE

2011-06-09 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
on to take, and you may even have done a good job convincing the weak minded who don't understand how peering works that HE is the victim, but please don't try to feed a load of bullshit to the rest of us. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Cogent & HE

2011-06-08 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
, but trying to simultaniously complain about your treatment at the hands of other networks and their peering disputes while emulating their actions is bullshit and you know it. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Cogent & HE

2011-06-08 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
t the rightness or wrongness of the strategy (and after all, it clearly hasn't been THAT big of an issue considering that it has been this way for MANY months), but to attempt to "blame" one party for this issue is the height of absurdity. PR stunts and cake baking not withstandi

Re: Downstream Usage-BGP Communites

2011-05-10 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
x27;re a transit customer of AS4323, you should have no problems. This is completely different from "peering", when money changes hands communities get listened to. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Downstream Usage-BGP Communites

2011-05-10 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
on-existant. You also have about a 50/50 shot of AS100 stripping your communities before they even make it to AS4323 (or any other network). Personally my belief is that this is a bad thing, and you should only filter communities in your own name-space (i.e. $YOURASN:*), but this doesn

Re: Anyone still maintaining altdb.net?

2011-04-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
, so if you know what you're doing AltDB provides a free method to maintain your IRR entries with very little sacrificied over a commercial solution. There is infact more than 1 person volunteering for AltDB, but from what I can see of this April 11th email, it falls into the "p

Re: Level 3 Agrees to Purchase Global Crossing

2011-04-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
any mistakes on their part will open the door for smaller carriers to show off the advantages of being nimble. If there is any significant reduction in competition that comes to either carrier, it will do exactly that. Infact, I encourage them to try, it will probably be good for my business. :)

Re: Peering Traffic Volume

2011-03-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
affic bypasses Tier 1 networks completely, going directly from content networks to eyeball networks, so the Tier 1's are effectively left as the higher priced and lower capacity "last resorts" for the remaining traffic. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras G

Re: bfd-like mechanism for LANPHY connections between providers

2011-03-16 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
the middle and no link state, BFD makes the most sense. Unfortunately it's the area where we've seen the least traction among peers, with "zomg why are you sending me these udp packets" complaints outnumbering people interesting in configuring BFD 10:1. -- Richard A Steenberge

Re: bfd-like mechanism for LANPHY connections between providers

2011-03-16 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
We (nLayer) are still waiting for our first customer to request BFD, we'd be happy to offer it (with reasonable timer values of course). :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Internet Edge Router replacement - IPv6 route tablesizeconsiderations

2011-03-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ure your own internal network, but imagine customers connecting to their ISPs as well) , and now tell me how you plan on identifying a particular link with a traceroute. The two words that best sum this up would be "epic disaster". -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbi

Re: Internet Edge Router replacement - IPv6 route table sizeconsiderations

2011-03-10 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
so poorly designed that they depend on not having subnets longer than /64s when doing IPv6 lookups, and there are many other good reasons why you should just not be using those boxes in the first place. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (753

Re: AT&T via Tata and Level3

2011-03-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
their own local criteria. The result is that you should almost never expect to see the same paths for the same networks being selected by two different large networks, unless the routes in question are single homed and there are no other choices (which is a small minority of the rout

Re: 6453 routing leaks (January and Today)

2011-02-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
te to advertise to peers, not the absence of a negative match. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: SFP vs. SFP+

2011-02-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
all. The device must be specifically designed to support both PHYs, which is NOT a given. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: SFP vs. SFP+

2011-02-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
upport from the device (since both PHYs have to be implemented). -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: SFP vs. SFP+

2011-02-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
le to achieve are still based on the quality of the device you're plugging them into. SFP+ is still mostly an enterprise box or high density / short reach offering, and XFP is still required for full functionality. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID:

Re: Announcing the Community FlowSpec trial

2011-01-05 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ow pfe statistics traffic" as Info cell drops). I can't tell you what the performance numbers are for other platforms, but anyone thinking about turning on flowspec from a third party source (especially one who may be sending them a large number of rules) should give serious cons

Re: Comcast vs Level 3 - This time with video

2010-12-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
It's also linked to from the original, as part of the same series. http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/8134089/ -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-19 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
the point at which it's not profitable for a new company to enter the market and try to compete. Right now the number is roughly 2, cable and dsl, give or take a few outliers. I do believe the point would be to encourage a little more competition than that. :) -- Richard A Steenbergen

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-19 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
There are so many billions of dollars at stake protecting the status quo that it's not even funny, which IMHO is why you'll never see any of this happen in the US, in any kind of scale at any rate. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CB

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-19 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
mplement, and there are billions of dollars at work lobbying against it, so I don't expect it to happen any time soon. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: "potential new and different architectural approach" to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ims that the published graphs are false, so I'm positive yours isn't going to get through. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Comcast vs Level 3 - This time with video

2010-12-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
A simplified explanation of the situation between Level 3 and Comcast, from the perspective of a Comcast customer who is asking for the same thing Comcast is asking for. :) http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/8124137/ -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID

Re: "potential new and different architectural approach" to solve the Comcast - L3 dispute

2010-12-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
all of the bits to the best exit mean it's highly likely that Comcast agreeing to haul the bits was part of their commercial transit agreement, probably in exchange for lower transit prices. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-16 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 02:13:47PM -0600, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > Seriously guys, this is an operator forum and you're running a congested > network, to expect that people are not going to comment on those facts > just because you've put money into NANOG sponsorship is

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-16 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
usly guys, this is an operator forum and you're running a congested network, to expect that people are not going to comment on those facts just because you've put money into NANOG sponsorship is absurd. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-15 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
that your Netflix bill is going to go up. At the end of the day you're probably better off betting on lower costs from the technical innovation of the networks who DON'T pay $50k for a 10GE port. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-15 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
sn't to save money on transit, it's to make the transit paths minimally functional so they can force content networks to buy from them directly (at above market rates, from what people tell me :P), so they don't WANT to add capacity or transit paths. -- Richard A Steenbergenht

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-14 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
their broadband access) to force other networks to pay them, and IMHO it needs to be called out publicly whenever possible. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-14 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
of activity. Even then you'll still have people who claim that it proves nothing because the graphs can't be positively associated to a specific customer port, but realistically these kinds of leaks are probably the best public info you'll ever see. -- Richard A Steenbergen

Re: Some truth about Comcast - WikiLeaks style

2010-12-14 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
retty much reflect the massive congestion that I've been observing between Tata and Comcast. I've also seen some third party Smokeping graphs which visually show the rate of loss, and the pattern looks very very similar, but I'll let someone who actually maintains them be th

Re: TWT - Comcast congestion

2010-12-01 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 06:31:39AM -0800, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:59:25PM -0600, Richard A > Steenbergen wrote: > > I believe that's what I said. To be perfectly clear, what I'm saying is: > > > > * Comcast acted fir

Re: TWT - Comcast congestion

2010-11-30 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
olution. Do you really think Comcast cares about the $50k router ports (by their own accounts, though personally I'd suggest they get off the CRS-1 tippe if they actually wanted to save some money :P), or might they actually be more interested in establishing themselves as a new Tier 1? :)

Re: TWT - Comcast congestion

2010-11-30 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
the global routing table), but they don't run their own server infrastructure, and Comcast doesn't offer a CDN service... The reality is that Level 3 offered Netflix a cut-throat price on CDN service to steal the business from Akamai, probably only made possible by the double

Re: TWT - Comcast congestion

2010-11-30 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
37 Suppress_to_AS5511 Suppress_to_AS6453 Suppress_to_AS6461 Suppress_to_AS6762 Suppress_to_AS7018 Suppress_to_AS7132 -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ublicly anywhere, but I'm sure it's north of a terabit. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
sement and call themselves an exchange point, but that doesn't mean anyone is going to show up and peer there. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Outage between GBLX and HE?

2010-11-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
in Seattle. As for the issue this morning, they have a router that has been blackholing traffic in Ashburn for a good long while now. I almost put on my Global Double Crossing t-shit this morning too. :) http://www.printfection.com/ras/Global-Double-Crossing-2-T-Shirt/_p_4935066 -- Richard

Re: flow analysis for juniper devices

2010-11-15 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
e. Some differences between v9 and IPFIX that googling turned up: http://www.plixer.com/blog/netflow/what-is-ipfix-vs-netflow-v9/ -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: flow analysis for juniper devices

2010-11-14 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 08:59:33AM +, Paolo Lucente wrote: > On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 09:17:55PM -0600, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > > Oh and the sFlow on EX is actually pretty cripled when used for routing. > > It's missing support for a bunch of important ext

Re: flow analysis for juniper devices

2010-11-13 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
f the fields of the message types it does send. For example you won't get any data on ASNs, nexthops, dest ifindexes, or even netmasks of the src/dst route the flow matched, making it pretty darn useless for a lot of tasks. It's functional if you're just analyzing L2 networks at

Re: Extra latency at ATT exchange for UVerse

2010-11-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
licies. The latency jump would be a near perfect fit for there still being some direct AS7132 peering sessions up, but only in Ashburn and not Atlanta. If nothing else, this illustrates one key point of troubleshooting with traceroute. The actual output of the traceroute is often worthless wit

Re: Extra latency at ATT exchange for UVerse

2010-11-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
o verify your assumptions about where the interconnection point between networks is, it's entirely possible that you could be seeing something like this too. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

2010-11-07 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
u're rapidly working your way up to nanog kook status with these absurd claims based on no logic whatsoever. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

2010-11-07 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ough people get onboard with the cheaper interior technology, eventually they start shoehorning on all the features and functionality that you wanted from the other one in the first place. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F C

Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

2010-11-06 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
u actually tried to show up to the Internet with a PC and a 4474 byte MTU you'd have a bad time. At any rate, I'm going to stop arguing this one, as I think we've beaten this dead horse enough for one day. Please read what I said carefully, I promise you this isn't as easy as you think it is. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

2010-11-06 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
failure detection time over an IX (for the next time Equinix decides to do one of their 10PM maintenances that causes hours of unreachability until hold timers expire :P). If the IX operators saw any significant demand they would have already turned it on already. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

2010-11-06 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
f those problems, I could trivially DoS your router with some packets that would overload your ability to generate ICMP Unreach Needfrag messages for PMTUD, and then all your jumbo frame end users going through that router would be blackholed as well. Great idea in theory, epic disaster in pra

Re: RINA - scott whaps at the nanog hornets nest :-)

2010-11-05 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
off the deep end on page 7 when it starts talking about peering infrastructure. Infact pretty much every sentence on that page is blatantly wrong. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Equinix of Candia?

2010-11-01 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
find to an Equinix. If there is anything interesting going on in Vancouver I haven't heard of it, but I don't know the market well enough to say for certain. Everywhere else is either too small to care about on a national scale, or is serviced by non-neutral colos (e.g. Peer1, etc). --

Re: AT&T/L3 interconnect?

2010-10-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
behavior. :) The return packets pop our at the end of the lsp, which is clearly in LA (or thereabouts, whatever lsrca is probably). -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: reachability problems Europe->US?

2010-10-07 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ay that I'm remarkably underwhelmed by their response to this issue, and suggest that anyone who doesn't want their packets blackholed by the Floundrys be prepared to vote with their wallet. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: BGP next-hop

2010-09-30 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ng (or have already left) in droves. I think the way I heard it put best was, "I'm convinced that $somenewexecfromcisco is actually on a secret 5 year mission to come over to Juniper, completely $%^* the company, and then go back to Cisco and get a big bonus for it". :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: BGP next-hop

2010-09-30 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
asily in the top 10 list of why I still buy Juniper instead of Cisco despite all the $%^&*ing bugs these days. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Routers in Data Centers

2010-09-26 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
00W/card, which is a far cry from a box loaded with 6716s at 400W/card or other power hungry configs. Remember the original XMR 32 chassis, which had side to side airflow? They quickly disappeared that sucker and replaced it with the much larger version they have today, I can only imagine how ba

Re: Routers in Data Centers

2010-09-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
u down", or "FYI you won't be able to bill your customers 'cause the vlan counters don't work", or "just so you know, this box can't load balance for shit, and L2 netflow won't work", or "yeah sorry you'll never be able to do

Re: Routers in Data Centers

2010-09-24 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
YMV, but the 30 second summary is that many vendors consider "datacenter" users and/or use cases to be unsophisticated, and they're hoping you won't notice or care about some of these serious design flaws, just the price per port. Depending on your application, that may or may not

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-27 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ormed of the issue by a soft notification extension. I have yet to see a single argument against this which isn't political or philosophical in nature. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Did your BGP crash today?

2010-08-27 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
curiosity, at what point will we as operators rise up against the ivory tower protocol designers at the IETF and demand that they add a mechanism to not bring down the entire BGP session because of a single malformed attribute? Did I miss the memo about the meeting? I'll bring the punch

Re: Inquiries to Acquire IPs

2010-07-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ail was answered with "Can I have 31337 instead?" which > in turn was granted. ) I tried to time it to get 6.9 from ARIN, ended up with 6.8 instead, and they kept 6.9 for themselves. Bastards! :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535

Re: BGP convergence problem

2010-06-08 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ne (which in theory shouldn't happen on an entirely hw forwarded box like 6500/7600, though of course we all know that isn't true :P). Oh and also the OP should take this to the cisco-nsp mailing list, where all the good bitching about broken Crisco routers takes place. :) -- Richard

Re: Junos Asymmetric Routing

2010-05-31 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
stuffed into that box. Again, I just hate to see the concepts dismissed out of hand because of some old BGP ideology about a problem that can be addressed any number of other ways. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-12 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
on and use the higher of two values like this when negotiating between two parties, but BGP does the opposite. I still run into bad bgp implementations which can't keep up with my 30 sec hold timers all the time *coughghettoequinixrouteservercough*. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp:

Re: BGP and convergence time

2010-05-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
mplementations), but hey it's never too late to start. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: SFP+ ER and ZR

2010-05-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ed LRs, but ZR and DWDM are still a ways out. There are also some CWDM units in the works, but because SFP+ doesn't support onboard EDC you are limited by dispersion to 10km in the traditional 8ch 1470-1610nm CWDM space over SMF28. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.n

Re: Juniper firewalls - SSG or SRX

2010-04-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
t of new code to recover. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: what about 48 bits?

2010-04-04 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
ent administrative control are all but guaranteeing end to end jumbo frame support will never be practical. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: what about 48 bits?

2010-04-04 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
throughout > the world? All those low cost switches and wifi adapters DO use unique > mac addresses? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address The IEEE expects the MAC-48 space to be exhausted no sooner than the year 2100[3]; EUI-64s are not expected to run out in the foreseeable futur

Re: CSIRT - Backbone Security : Runtime Monitoring and DynamicReconfiguration for Intrusion Detection Systems

2010-03-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 12:18:40AM +, char...@www.knownelement.com wrote: > Mods, > > Can we get the spam off the list? Its getting old. FYI this guy has been spamming individuals and PeeringDB contacts for a couple months now too. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-g

Re: RE: Inside plant 10G fiber specs?

2010-03-15 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
lly as you try to move to 10G speeds and beyond, is IMHO not worth the relatively small short term cost optimization. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: YouTube AS36561 began announcing 1.0.0.0/8

2010-03-12 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 07:34:10AM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > Oh, I understand what's going on exactly. YouTube is trying to > balance their ratios. :) That might explain why they're only announcing it behind Cogent. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-ge

Re: Linux Router distro's with dual stack capability

2010-02-11 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
dealing with the potential latency/jitter implications isn't worth the benefits for most people. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: [NANOG] Contacts @ China Unicom and China Telecom

2010-02-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
nd none of them work. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Using /126 for IPv6 router links

2010-01-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
27;re left with. So far all we've really done with v6 is created a flashback to the days when every end user could get a /24 just by asking, every enterprise could get a /16 just by asking, and every big network could get a /8 just by asking, just bit shifted a little bit. That's all well a

Re: Using /126 for IPv6 router links

2010-01-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
black market of buying and selling people's active IPv6 addresses from various website logs and the like, so hax0rs will have something to scan. In a few years time it will probably be popular with end users to periodicially "rotate the shield frequencies" with their final 64 bits, o

Re: Using /126 for IPv6 router links

2010-01-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
space (and a lot of prefix bloat for when we start using more than 2000::/3), which is a FAR cry from the 2^128 "omg big number, we can give every molecule an IPv6 address" math of the popular imagination. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: Foundry CLI manual?

2010-01-23 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
XMR. If you're still rocking an old B2P622, I'd say you're in need of far more help than any manual can provide. :) http://www.foundrynet.com/services/documentation/xmr_user/current/NetIron_04100_ConfigGuide.pdf http://www.foundrynet.com/services/documentation/xmr_diag/current/Net

Re: Using /31 for router links

2010-01-22 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
(last I looked at any rate). :) Every other piece of gear seems to handle it fine, though admittedly it breaks my automatic mental calculations of "what is the peer IP" something fierce. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 820

Re: Enhancing automation with network growth

2010-01-20 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
cycle then track your interfaces by their names, pretty much every modern poller system can manage this. MRTG is absurdly old, slow, and generally nasty, and should not be used by anyone in this day and age. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-02 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
t :P). Remember that 1550nm is infrared and very effectively filtered by the human eye, so even a +17dBm output EDFA (the max output for most metro systems) is still going to be class 1M and effectively safe as long as you don't stare at it in a microscope. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://w

Re: dark fiber and sfp distance limitations

2010-01-01 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
so depending on the fiber conditions and number of splices/panels along the way you could potentially expect to get the entire distance out of a "standard" 100km optic. -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CBC)

Re: UltraDNS Failure?

2009-12-23 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
traDNS) receiving a few million packets/sec of UDP/53 DoS traffic, starting at about the same time as the UltraDNS problems. No clue if it's related, but it certainly sounds suspicious. :) -- Richard A Steenbergenhttp://www.e-gerbil.net/ras GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F

Re: fight club :) richard bennett vs various nanogers, on paid peering

2009-11-25 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
massive change in the economics for the IP network operators will obviously result in major changes to the amount of traffic delivered over IX fabrics vs private interconnection. Again, something you could have actually asked operators about rather than making up conclusons in your head. -- Richard

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