Re: South carolina local fiber providers

Segra is likely going to be one of your best bets… Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 24, 2025, at 6:13 PM, Mehmet wrote: > >  > Hello there > > Looking for local fiber providers in South Carolina for a hyperscale DC > project Located between I-26 and I-85 > > Ideallly these providers can build fi

Re: TA Malfunction??

If we received no notification, can we assume we are part of the 70.83%? michael brooks Adams 12 Five Star Schools On Thu, Jan 30, 2025 at 4:45 AM Christopher Hawker wrote: > As did I... On the PacketVis site (for me) it's showing as low, most > likely because the signed routes wi

Re: Hurricane Electric ISP custom routing via BGP communities

n approach here. Michael

Re: CGNAT growing pains

retty good chunk. Not sure about Amazon Prime. I was actually thinking about social media which i think it's pretty well supported. Mike On Tue, 8 Oct 2024, Michael Thomas wrote: Hi Jon, So is this easier than what the mobile carriers are doing -- 464xlat, isn't it? Probably a s

Re: CGNAT growing pains

Hi Jon, So is this easier than what the mobile carriers are doing -- 464xlat, isn't it? Probably a sizeable portion of the traffic would be running native v6, right? Obviously it wouldn't run into these sorts of problems. Mike On 10/8/24 12:19 PM, Jon Lewis wrote: We started rolling out CGNA

Re: virtual nanog 92?

Ah, thanx Valerie. Guess I was too on top of it, back to my old procrastinating self michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Star Schools michael.bro...@adams12.org "flying is learning how to throw yourself a

virtual nanog 92?

Hello NANOG- Am I just missing the virtual option for attending NANOG 92? or is this simply not an option this time around? michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Star Schools michael.bro...@adams12.org "flyi

Re: Third Party VoIP Over Xfinity

On 9/14/24 9:04 AM, Brandon Martin wrote: On 9/13/24 11:20, Michael Thomas wrote: On 9/13/24 7:19 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Yes. We run lots of SIP UDP over many networks without issue.    I feel like bloat is exactly an application for using UDP? With TCP won't that cause more bloat/

Re: Third Party VoIP Over Xfinity

On 9/13/24 7:19 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: Yes. We run lots of SIP UDP over many networks without issue.    I feel like bloat is exactly an application for using UDP? With TCP won't that cause more bloat/delay?  That being said, we generally see about 3-6 ms between end points and our PBX system

Re: Third Party VoIP Over Xfinity

On 9/12/24 9:08 AM, Brandon Svec via NANOG wrote: What kinds of third party SIP are you all having so much issue with?  I manage a lot of accounts using the big, hosted providers and plenty of the endpoints sit behind Xfinity/Comcast boxes without issue. The dropping registrations just sound

Re: Third Party VoIP Over Xfinity

and such. Now the RTP traffic could stay clear UDP, this was just the SIP part. -- Brandon Jackson bjack...@napshome.net On Tue, Sep 10, 2024 at 5:01 PM Michael Thomas wrote: On 9/10/24 1:36 PM, Mark Wiater wrote: What happens when you decrease your registr

Re: Third Party VoIP Over Xfinity

On 9/10/24 1:36 PM, Mark Wiater wrote: What happens when you decrease your registration frequency? Do the phones stay registered? Have you tried TLS for the SIP transport by chance? I manage a few phones on comcast across the country and have no problems. In this day and age TLS isn't the

FW: NANOG Digest, Vol 199, Issue 6

We offer highly customizable colo arrangements. For small engagements, we usually price per box, so it doesn't have to be 1U. Mundelein IL (northern Chicago suburbs) Sincerely, Michael Malitsky Advanced Business Group 847-247-0700 -Original Message- From: NANOG On Behalf Of

Re: Personal Colo 2024

I have a rack in Charlotte, NC that I sell some colo out of, mainly to friends of mine but also open to hobbyists. Been doing it for a few years now. Feel free to reach out off list if you want to discuss further. On Tuesday, August 06, 2024 11:41 EDT, ja...@unlimitednet.us wrote:  Hi Tim, I

Re: Norms and Standards

I would like to point out that an effort along these lines was taken about 10-12 years ago and documented here : https://nabcop.org/index.php/DDoS-DoS-attack-BCOP This likely can be refreshed or used as input material for something new. There are other items on that site and OIX (previously Open-

Re: Current diameter of the Internet?

On 7/21/24 4:05 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Mel, Voyager is using radio waves, which travel faster than the speed of light (in a vacuum, too!).  But my point is more Earth to outside the solar system is ~24 hours so where did circumnavigating the globe get three days of latency? ::Albert Eins

interesting article on video encoding

not exactly this list's main focus, but i suspect that lots of people here's day job is to move these bits around as fast as possible once they are being streamed. https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/22/24171581/netflix-bet-advanced-encoding-anne-aaron Mike

Re: HE.net outage / status page ?

On 2024-06-14 13:49, Scott Q. wrote: Do you know if they have a status page or some other place where they write post-mortems ? I don't believe such a page exists, no.

Re: HE.net outage / status page ?

On 2024-06-14 11:57, John Von Essen wrote: Could be related or coincidence, but at the same time as this HE issue, we've been seeing inbound connectivity issues to Azure US Central. Azure’s ASN does have a peer to HE…. HE is one of our upstreams for our hosting in Seattle. Looking back at som

Re: HE.net outage / status page ?

On 2024-06-14 06:32, Scott Q. wrote: Anyone knows if Hurricane Electric is having an outage ? I also can't seem to find a status page for them. Tracerouting to 118.172.248.120 for example through their network is impossible, but many other blocks are affected as well. Yes they are, seems to b

Re: Free(opensource) Ticketing solutions

OSTicket is decent, not the prettiest, but works well. Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2024, at 1:30 PM, Pascal Masha wrote: > >  > Hello, > > Which free and good ticketing systems do you folks(for those who do) use? > > Regards, > Paschal Masha

Re: Mailing list SPF Failure

On 5/16/24 7:36 PM, John R. Levine wrote: I think a lot of us have nanog whitelisted or otherwise special cased. I don't and gmail is my backend. That's trivial falsification that lack of an SPF records alone will cause gmail rejects. Mike Also, it's been pumping out list mail for decad

Re: Should FCC look at SS7 vulnerabilities or BGP vulnerabilities

On 5/16/24 6:55 PM, John Levine wrote: It appears that Brandon Martin said: I think the issue with their lack of effectiveness on spam calls is due to the comparatively small number of players in the PSTN (speaking of both classic TDM and modern IP voice-carrying and signaling networks) world

Re: Mailing list SPF Failure

they're broken...there's a few guys on the list here. On Thursday, 16/05/2024 at 19:17 Michael Thomas wrote: On 5/16/24 3:54 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:03 PM John Levine mailto:jo...@iecc.com>> wrote: >> It appears that Michael Th

Re: Should FCC look at SS7 vulnerabilities or BGP vulnerabilities

On 5/16/24 4:17 PM, Brandon Martin wrote: I think the issue with their lack of effectiveness on spam calls is due to the comparatively small number of players in the PSTN (speaking of both classic TDM and modern IP voice-carrying and signaling networks) world allowing lots of regulatory cap

Re: Mailing list SPF Failure

On 5/16/24 3:54 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 12:03 PM John Levine wrote: It appears that Michael Thomas said: Since probably 99% of the mail from NANOG is through this list, it hardly matters since SPF will always fail. Sorry, but no. A mailing list puts its own

Re: Mailing list SPF Failure

On 5/16/24 8:59 AM, Scott Q. wrote: Uhm, not really. An SPF failure is really bad even though DKIM works. It might depend what they do with DMARC but even so, there's no reason they can't just add that IP to their SPF record. SPF has from day one been known to be broken with mailing lists. It

Re: Mailing list SPF Failure

On 5/16/24 8:11 AM, Peter Potvin via NANOG wrote: Appears there’s no SPF record at all now for nanog.org , which is not ideal… Since probably 99% of the mail from NANOG is through this list, it hardly matters since SPF will always fail. What is more important is that they r

Re: Microsoft missing public DNS TXT entry for DKIM records (msn.com)

On 4/4/24 12:43 AM, Jay Acuna wrote: On Thu, Apr 4, 2024 at 1:23 AM Adam Brenner via NANOG wrote: .. It seems to me that if msn.com is going to include DKIM headers in their outgoing email, they should also publish their DKIM public key. If they are not going to publish their DKIM public key,

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

I miss the sarcasm? michael brooks On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 8:55 AM Tom Beecher wrote: > It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is >> sublime. If something is critical enough, and you push hard enough, Cisco >> will move heaven and earth to solve your

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

You are missing the point, we opened the case 3 months ago michael brooks On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 8:24 AM wrote: > To be honest, if your DR environment has been offline for 3 months and you > are just now opening a case, I would not consider that critical. > > Shane > > O

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

e asked this? Admittedly, we are going through a rough patch in terms of support, but it is not out of line with the past decade's experiences. michael brooks On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 12:47 PM Joel Esler wrote: > It may be a pain in the butt to get Cisco equipment, but their TAC is > su

Re: Best TAC Services from Equipment Vendors

are speaking in trajectories michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Star Schools michael.bro...@adams12.org "flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss" On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 11:25

Re: Meta outage

On Tue, 05 Mar 2024 11:06:11 -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote: >It's making the general press this hour so of course you already know about it >but my question is this: who peers with meta and have you seen BGP sessions >drop or the like? Do you operate meta CDN nodes in your network? Are they >screa

Re: Leap Day

Here's a link to the full article for anyone that's not a sub to NYT: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/29/science/leap-day-easter.html?unlocked_article_code=1.ZU0.5Thd.N-PiRNtpSr2c&smid=url-share On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 12:39 AM Jay R. Ashworth wrote: > Late, just saw the posting on BlueSky: > >

Re: Leap Day

Good article, enjoyable read. Most interesting tidbit: that UTC and Atomic time disagree by 34 seconds. michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Star Schools michael.bro...@adams12.org "flying is learning how to

Re: IPv6 uptake

On 2/18/24 1:10 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: Michael Thomas wrote on 18/02/2024 20:56: That's really great to hear. Of course there is still the problem with CPE that doesn't speak v6, but that's not their fault and gives some reason to use their CPE. Already solved: cable mod

Re: IPv6 uptake

On 2/18/24 12:50 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: Michael Thomas wrote on 18/02/2024 20:28: I do know that Cablelabs pretty early on -- around the time I mentioned above -- has been pushing for v6. Maybe Jason Livingood can clue us in. Getting cable operators onboard too would certainly be a good

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

On 2/18/24 8:47 AM, Greg Skinner via NANOG wrote: On Feb 17, 2024, at 11:27 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 10:34?AM Michael Thomas wrote: Funny, I don't recall Bellovin and Cheswick's Firewall book discussing NAT. And mine too, since I hadn't heard of

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

On 2/17/24 11:27 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 10:34 AM Michael Thomas wrote: I didn't hear about NAT until the late 90's, iirc. I've definitely not heard of Gauntlet. Then there are gaps in your knowledge. Funny, I don't recall Bellovin and Ches

Re: IPv6 mail The Reg does 240/4

On 2/17/24 2:21 PM, John Levine wrote: But what happens under the hood at major mailbox providers is maddeningly opaque so who really knows? It would be nice if MAAWG published a best practices or something like that to outline what is actually happening in live deployments. Unfortunately, spa

Re: The Reg does 240/4

On 2/17/24 10:19 AM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: Mike, it’s true that Google used to be a lot less strict on IPv4 email than IPv6, but they want SPF and /or DKIM on everything now, so it’s mostly the same. There is less reputation data available for IPv6 and server reputation is a harder pro

Re: IPv6 uptake

On 2/17/24 10:26 AM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: On Feb 16, 2024, at 14:20, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: - Original Message - From: "Justin Streiner" 4. Getting people to unlearn the "NAT=Security" mindset that we were forced to accept in the v4 world. NAT doesn't "equal" security.

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

On 2/16/24 6:33 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 6:10 PM Ryan Hamel wrote: Depending on where that rule is placed within your ACL, yes that can happen with *ANY* address family. Hi Ryan, Correct. The examples illustrated a difference between a firewall implementing address

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

On 2/16/24 5:37 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 5:33 PM Michael Thomas wrote: So you're not going to address that this is a management plain problem. Hi Mike, What is there to address? I already said that NAT's security enhancement comes into play when a -mistak

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

On 2/16/24 5:30 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 5:22 PM Michael Thomas wrote: On 2/16/24 5:05 PM, William Herrin wrote: Now, I make a mistake on my firewall. I insert a rule intended to allow packets outbound from 2602:815:6001::4 but I fat-finger it and so it allows them

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

On 2/16/24 5:05 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 3:13 PM Michael Thomas wrote: If you know which subnets need to be NAT'd don't you also know which ones shouldn't exposed to incoming connections (or conversely, which should be permitted)? It seems to me that a

Re: IPv6 uptake (was: The Reg does 240/4)

On 2/16/24 3:01 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 2:19 PM Jay R. Ashworth wrote: From: "Justin Streiner" 4. Getting people to unlearn the "NAT=Security" mindset that we were forced to accept in the v4 world. NAT doesn't "equal" security. But it is certainly a *component* of

Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block

On 1/15/24 11:02 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 21:08, Michael Thomas wrote: An ipv4 free network would be nice, but is hardly needed. There will always be a long tail of ipv4 and so what? You deal with it at your I mean Internet free DFZ, so that everyone is not forced to

Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block

On 1/15/24 12:26 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 at 10:05, jordi.palet--- via NANOG wrote: In actual customer deployments I see the same levels, even up to 85% of IPv6 traffic. It basically depends on the usage of the caches and the % of residential vs corporate customers. You th

Re: IPv6 Traffic Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block

On 1/15/24 12:56 AM, jordi.palet--- via NANOG wrote: No, I’m not saying that. I’m saying "in actual deployments", which doesn’t mean that everyone is deploying, we are missing many ISPs, we are missing many enterprises. I don't think what's going on internally with enterprise needs to change

Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block

On 1/12/24 11:54 AM, Darrel Lewis wrote: On Jan 12, 2024, at 11:47 AM, Seth David Schoen wrote: Michael Thomas writes: I wonder if the right thing to do is to create a standards track RFC that makes the experimental space officially an add on to rfc 1918. If it works for you, great, if

Re: IPv6? Re: Where to Use 240/4 Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block

On 1/12/24 8:45 AM, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: Frankly, I care less. No matter how you use whatever IPv4 space you attempt to cajole into whatever new form of degraded service, the simple fact remains. IPv4 is a degraded technology that only continues to get worse over time. NAT was bad. CG

Re: 202401100645.AYC Re: IPv4 address block

7;s a whole bunch of software out there that makes certain assumptions about allowable ranges. That is, they've been compiled with a header that defines .. #define IN_BADCLASS(i) (((in_addr_t)(i) & 0xf000) == 0xf000) Michael

RE: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

x27;s an interesting comment about DNSSEC that I hadn't considered. -Michael From: Damian Menscher Sent: Monday, December 4, 2023 12:21 PM To: Michael Hare Cc: John R. Levine ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server? Google Public DNS (8.8.8.8) attemp

RE: What are these Google IPs hammering on my DNS server?

an educational ISP/enterprise. So what are most folks doing to survive crap like this? Nothing/waiting it out? Oursourcing DNS? Scrubbing appliance? Poormans stuff like I mention above? -Michael > -Original Message- > From: NANOG On > Behalf Of John R. Levine > Sent:

Re: sigs wanted for a response to the fcc's NOI for faster broadband speeds

As one beholden to USAC/FCC I have to agree with Shane... michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Star Schools michael.bro...@adams12.org "flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss" O

Re: Zayo woes

week. Then the construction crew showed up the next day michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Star Schools michael.bro...@adams12.org "flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss" O

Re: Appropriate venue to find out about the state of art of spear phishing defense?

On 11/13/23 12:29 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: We use KnowBe4.com's user training. That's really the only way you can fight this, since its a human problem, not a technical one. These guys provide fully automated, AI based (well, who knows what that means) simulated phishing attacks, largely to give

Appropriate venue to find out about the state of art of spear phishing defense?

I know this is only tangentially relevant to nanog, but I'm curious if anybody knows where I can ask what orgs do to combat spear phishing? Spear phishing doesn't require that you deploy DMARC since you can know your own policy even if you aren't comfortable publishing it to the world. tia,

Re: [EXTERNAL] DNS filtering in practice, Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

On 10/28/23 3:13 AM, John Levine wrote: It appears that Michael Thomas said: If you're one of the small minority of retail users that knows enough about the technology to pick your own resolver, go ahead. But it's a reasonable default to keep malware out of Grandma's iPad.

Re: OSP Management

We used to have an FTE for ArcGIS. We got by pretty well until we needed to document circuits down to the NIC level, and then we lost that FTE altogether. PatchManager was chosen from an RFP for its granularity and (seeming) user-friendliness. michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five

Cisco 15454 Multishelf

accomplish this by pointing and clicking (in the multishelf configuration tab). Any hints (probably off-list since I doubt that this is a platform still of interest to many) would be welcome. Thanks, Michael

OSP Management

On that note, what do you all use for managing OSP? We have been attempting to stand up PatchManager for quite some time, and find it a good product, but the billions of options can be overwhelming michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Star Schools michael.bro...@adams12.org

Re: emily postnews

You sure :-)^oo mh 28 octobre 2023 19:32 "Jay R. Ashworth" a écrit: > - Original Message - > >> From: "Randy Bush" >> >> another old dog doing a search wrote to tell me they really appreciated >> that i still had some antique advice up. i had long forgotten this one. >> but found it a

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Charter DNS servers returning malware filtered IP addresses

On 10/27/23 2:20 PM, John Levine wrote: It appears that Bryan Fields said: -=-=-=-=-=- -=-=-=-=-=- On 10/27/23 7:49 AM, John Levine wrote: But for obvious good reasons, the vast majority of their customers don't I'd argue that as a service provider deliberately messing with DNS is an obviou

Re: transit and peering costs projections

On 10/15/23 8:33 PM, Matthew Petach wrote:  I think we often forget just how much of a massive inversion the communications industry has undergone; back in the 80s, when I started working in networking, everything was DS0 voice channels, and data was just a strange side business that nobody in

Re: xfinity not working

On 10/11/23 11:34 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:12 AM Delong.com wrote: There are still some knobs… e.g. bridge mode or not (usually) I'm guessing that's only if there's a built-in wifi router. My grand experience with cable modems counts to exactly two brands and fou

Re: Low to Mid Range DWDM Platforms

d good to work with (we have had them build custom-length cables). michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Star Schools michael.bro...@adams12.org "flying is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss&quo

Re: what is acceptible jitter for voip and videoconferencing?

On 9/22/23 1:54 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: Telnet sessions where often initiated from half duplex terminals. Pushing that flow control across the network helped those users. I'm still confused. Did it require the telnet users to actually take action? Like they'd manually need to enter the GA

Re: what is acceptible jitter for voip and videoconferencing?

On 9/22/23 9:42 AM, Jay Hennigan wrote: On 9/21/23 17:04, Michael Thomas wrote: When I wrote my first implementation of telnet ages ago, i was both amused and annoyed about the go-ahead option. Obviously patterned after audio meat-space protocols, but I was never convinced it wasn'

Re: what is acceptible jitter for voip and videoconferencing?

On 9/21/23 3:31 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 6:28 AM Tom Beecher wrote: My understanding has always been that 30ms was set based on human perceptibility. 30ms was the average point at which the average person could start to detect artifacts in the audio. Hi Tom, Jitte

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

On 9/14/23 6:34 AM, Dave Taht wrote: This is one of those threads where I do think folk would benefit from hearing from the horses' mouths. In a recent bio of musk published this past week, the author claimed that starlink withdrew service over crimea based on the knowledge it was going to be

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

On 9/14/23 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: *nods* likely plenty of similar examples by less polarizing people. Then lets hear them? It certainly seems like an  operational issue if this starts to become common. How is it dealt with if at all beyond diversity which is hard to come by with LEO sy

So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

Doesn't this bump up against common carrier protections? I sure don't want my utilities weaponizing their monopoly status to the whims of any random narcissist billionaire. Mike

Re: Destination Preference Attribute for BGP

ears. A bit more info: we are also looking at an internal solution which passes IGP metric into MED to influence pathing. To avoid TL;DR I will stop there in the hopes this is an intriguing enough problem to generate discussion. michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Sta

Re: Hawaiian ILEC infrastructure and fire

On 8/17/23 11:26 AM, scott via NANOG wrote: I don't want to overwhelm the list, but since there's interest here's something interesting I just now got from the electric company.  400 poles and 300 transformers.  Wow! Those of us from California and the west have watched this in abject ho

Destination Preference Attribute for BGP

) and RFC6938 (which implies DPA was in use, but then was deprecated). michael brooks Sr. Network Engineer Adams 12 Five Star Schools 720.972.4110 michael.bro...@adams12.org "flying is learning how to throw yourself at the groun

Re: Copper wire thefts increase 139% in one California county

On 7/1/23 9:46 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: Copper wire thefts of all kinds appear to be increasing in 2023. Not just telecommunications copper cables, but also electric and transit cables. San Joaquin County reported a 139% increase in copper wire thefts over four months, and one theft in the

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On 6/26/23 6:06 PM, Ron Yokubaitis wrote: Dalles: government subsidized Hydroelectric Power, that’s why. Well that maybe, but electric rates are hella cheap in Oregon regardless. Mike Sent from the iPad of Ron Yokubaitis On Jun 26, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:  On 6/24

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On 6/24/23 5:28 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: On Jun 23, 2023, at 18:04, Michael Thomas wrote:  On 6/23/23 4:01 PM, Delong.com via NANOG wrote: The electric grid complaints are about the demand on the grid making the entire region less stable and proposed construction of new high-voltage tower

Re: Northern Virginia has had enough with data centers

On 6/23/23 4:01 PM, Delong.com via NANOG wrote: The electric grid complaints are about the demand on the grid making the entire region less stable and proposed construction of new high-voltage tower corridors for data centers. Yeah, I can kind of understand those, but as long as the grid is p

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

On 6/17/23 4:14 PM, Tom Beecher wrote: Also: they plan to use Starship when it's available which has 10x more capacity. If it really is fully reusable as advertised, that is going to really drive down the launch cost. Starship is years away from being flight ready. The most recent

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

oo bird but say what you will he does have big ambitions. Ambition is good. But reality tends to win the day. As does math. On Sat, Jun 17, 2023 at 4:38 PM Michael Thomas wrote: On 6/17/23 1:25 PM, Tom Beecher wrote: Won't Starlink and other LEO configurations be t

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

in their cpe that makes them much more expensive than, say, satellite tv dishes? I can see marginally more because of the LEO aspect, but isn't that mainly just software? It wouldn't surprise me that the main cost is the truck roll. Mike On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 4:17 PM Michael T

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

On 6/16/23 3:18 PM, Keith Stokes wrote: Cox also has a 1.2 TB cap. If I can believe my graphs, the metered Cox connection (video streaming primarily for wife) is about 90 GB the month of April and the unmetered ATT fiber WFH for me is about 370 GB. Total LAN is about 450 GB. Napkin math but

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

are numbering them though. Are the they using the same scheme that the mobile providers are using with ipv6? hmm. Mike On Fri, Jun 16, 2023 at 4:22 PM Mark Tinka wrote: On 6/16/23 22:16, Michael Thomas wrote: > Won't Starlink and other LEO configurations be that backstop sooner

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

On 6/16/23 1:22 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: On 6/16/23 22:16, Michael Thomas wrote: Won't Starlink and other LEO configurations be that backstop sooner rather than later? I don't know if they have caps as well, but even if they do they could compete with their caps. Maybe. I real

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

On 6/16/23 1:09 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: On 6/16/23 21:19, Josh Luthman wrote: Mark, In my world I constantly see people with 0 fixed internet options.  Many of these locations do not even have mobile coverage.  Competition is fine in town, but for millions of people in the US (and I'm goin

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

On 6/15/23 10:41 PM, Crist Clark wrote: Comcast still has data caps. My service is 1.2 TB per month. If we get close, we get a warning email. If we were to go over (hasn’t happened yet), we get billed per additional 500 MB. However, I just looked at my account usage for the first time for a

Re: FCC Chair Rosenworcel Proposes to Investigate Impact of Data Caps

On 6/15/23 3:19 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: While a lot of ISPs gave up on data caps, the language is still lurking in many Terms Of Service. https://www.fcc.gov/document/chair-rosenworcel-proposes-investigate-impact-data-caps proposed Notice of Inquiry to learn more about how broadband p

Re: 365 Datacenters Tampa AC Failure

Issue started a little after 2am, I was hard down till about 11:30am (servers did a high temp shutdown)On Jun 12, 2023 8:01 PM, Michael Spears wrote:Yep there's issues over there. They had some compressors go down. Should be getting back to normal now... Hasn't been a good month f

Re: 365 Datacenters Tampa AC Failure

Yep there's issues over there. They had some compressors go down. Should be getting back to normal now... Hasn't been a good month for them in regards to cooling..On Jun 12, 2023 7:15 PM, George Herbert wrote:Oof.  Get ready to replace all spinning media you may have there.  -George Sent f

Re: New addresses for b.root-servers.net

On 6/7/23 15:13, Izaac wrote: On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 09:30:36AM -0700, William Herrin wrote: Data embedded in the binary is hard-coded. That's what hard-coded means. If it makes you happier I'll qualify it as a "hard-coded default," to differentiate it from settings the operator can't override

Re: Are we back to the 2000's again?

On 6/3/23 4:24 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 4:09 PM Michael Thomas wrote: How can the RIAA even know? I mean, are they putting up honey pots or something? IIRC, they went after folks sharing the files via bit torrent rather than folks who only downloaded them. Oh yeah

Re: Are we back to the 2000's again?

On 6/3/23 4:01 PM, William Herrin wrote: On Sat, Jun 3, 2023 at 2:51 PM Mel Beckman wrote: It’s like blaming water companies for people stealing boats :) It's been a while and the article is light on the facts of the case, but IIRC what happened was: RIAA made some DMCA complaints to Cox. Co

Are we back to the 2000's again?

Apparently the RIAA is back suing ISP's (Cox in this case) for users pirating music. It was pretty bogus back then, but with the uptake of TLS for almost everything and DoH to conceal DNS requests what exactly is an ISP supposed to do these days? Throw in a VPN and the pirates completely cut

Re: Do ISP's collect and analyze traffic of users?

On 5/19/23 6:09 AM, Justin Streiner wrote: Hank: No doubt there is a massive amount of information that can be gathered from in-box telemetry.  This thread appears to be more focused on providers gathering data from traffic in flight across their infrastructure. Yeah, my curiosity was whet

Re: Do ISP's collect and analyze traffic of users?

On 5/16/23 7:55 AM, Saku Ytti wrote: Of course there are other monetisation opportunities via other mechanism than data-in-the-wire, like DNS And with DoH, that doesn't sound like a very long term opportunity. Mike

Re: Do ISP's collect and analyze traffic of users?

On 5/16/23 7:35 AM, Livingood, Jason via NANOG wrote: +1 to what Josh writes below. I would also differentiate between mobile networks (service provisioned to individual devices & often carrier s/w on the device) and wireline networks (home devices behind a router/gateway/NAT). I just don'

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