On 6/26/23 6:06 PM, Ron Yokubaitis wrote:
Dalles: government subsidized Hydroelectric Power, that’s why.

Well that maybe, but electric rates are hella cheap in Oregon regardless.

Mike



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On Jun 26, 2023, at 7:37 PM, Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote:


On 6/24/23 5:28 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:

On Jun 23, 2023, at 18:04, Michael Thomas <m...@mtcc.com> wrote:

On 6/23/23 4:01 PM, 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__Delong.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=euGZstcaTDllvimEN8b7jXrwqOf-v5A_CdpgnVfiiMM&r=cGrDT0liF-gD_o4EJ7o_qg&m=Z1ElQJ6RtDdrUgH7UwCpBHojWq1Iyp4CM49TsykDfXM&s=BUfOgzy41EDHyDbK_xBslELDt9Xofk6_YBR4nLTQGmo&e=
 via NANOG wrote:
The electric grid complaints are about the demand on the grid making the entire 
region less stable and proposed construction of new high-voltage tower 
corridors for data centers.
Yeah, I can kind of understand those, but as long as the grid is properly 
planned, it really shouldn’t have a destabilizing effect. In fact, many 
datacenter in California do CoGen and end up providing additional grid 
stability.

Uh, ::cough:: PGE ::cough::

I so wanted to schadenfreude so bad with Texas and their shitty grid, but then 
remembered where I live.

Mike
What’s not to love about a power company that literally qualifies as a 
recidivist felon?

It is my sincere hope to finish my mortgage and then start putting money 
towards electrical independence. (Wind, more solar, batteries, and 
disconnecting Persistent Graft and Extortion).

I'm waiting on a software upgrade for my inverter to hook up a generator to 
refill the battery when it gets too low. Not off the grid, but not at the mercy 
of PGE's fuckery.

How many datacenters are in Norcal? I imagine that it's a lot, but PGE's rates 
are like 2x the rest of the country. At least for residential. I always got a 
kick of Google putting a datacenter in the Dalles in Oregon -- basically 
mainlining the Columbia river.

Mike

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