Re: routing table go boom

2013-03-20 Thread Luigi Iannone
Hi, On 20 Mar. 2013, at 06:40 , Masataka Ohta wrote: [snip] > > Then, how can an ITR, which initially choose a blackholed > locator, know that the locator is not working and fall > back to another locator? In LISP you can check reachability with the echo-nonce function. [snip] > > PS > >

Re: routing table go boom

2013-03-20 Thread Luigi Iannone
On 20 Mar. 2013, at 01:05 , Masataka Ohta wrote: > Dobbins, Roland wrote: > >> It is always amusing to see people allude to the end-to-end >> principle to support their arguments, when in fact the >> end-to-end principle is either inapplicable to the topic >> at hand, or actually lends support

Re: routing table go boom

2013-03-20 Thread Luigi Iannone
Hi Masataka, On 20 Mar. 2013, at 00:23 , Masataka Ohta wrote: > David Conrad wrote: > >> One of the advantages I see in LISP(-like) solutions is that it >> allows multi-homing without having to do BGP... > > By having a lot larger table than BGP. > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-iet

Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)

2011-07-13 Thread Luigi Iannone
On Jul 13, 2011, at 13:03 , Luigi Iannone wrote: > Jeff, > > on one point we agree, there is value in continuing this thread. There is _no_ value. my mistake... Luigi > I've tried to bring the discussion back to the technical issues, but I failed. > > Persona

Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)

2011-07-13 Thread Luigi Iannone
aders, but as it is basically what seems to go on a lot, from my > observations of IETF list activity, I'll copy my reply to the list as > you have done. > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:08 AM, Luigi Iannone > wrote: >> Granted. You are the real world expert. Now can you sto

Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6 broken?)

2011-07-13 Thread Luigi Iannone
ot like it? Fine, other people do. You do not believe in it and do not see any value? Fine, other people do. You think that there are issues that cannot be solved? Fine, other people believe those issues can be solved and are scratching their head to find deployable solutions. As I said before, your technical experience and feedback is the most welcome, but let's try to focus only on the technical level. thanks Luigi Iannone

Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites

2011-04-19 Thread Luigi Iannone
On Apr 18, 2011, at 9:50 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > > Any edges which talk to a significant number of other networks will > have to cache a significant portion of the Internet, which will > actually lead to edge boxes having to be larger than they are now. > This is not accurate. For networks wi

Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites

2011-04-19 Thread Luigi Iannone
On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:09 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Apr 18, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote: > >> 2011/4/18 Lukasz Bromirski : >>> LISP scales better, because with introduction of *location* >>> prefix, you're at the same time (or ideally you would) >>> withdraw the original a

Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites

2011-04-12 Thread Luigi Iannone
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 23:53 , Jeff Wheeler wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> I do tend to think that any technology sufficiently confusing that I cannot >> understand it well after reasonable effort is of questionable value >> for wide deployment. > > The secret is

Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites

2011-04-12 Thread Luigi Iannone
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 17:26 , Owen DeLong wrote: But can you explain better? Why should LISP require more IP space than normal IPv4 deployment? If you are a new site, you ask for an IP block. This is independent from whether or not you will use LISP. >>> Sur

Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites

2011-04-11 Thread Luigi Iannone
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:37 , Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Apr 11, 2011, at 6:30 AM, Luigi Iannone wrote: > >> >> On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:17 , Owen DeLong wrote: >> >> [snip] >>>>> >>>>> Doing IPv4 LISP on any kind of scale req

Re: LISP

2011-04-11 Thread Luigi Iannone
Hi, I think that the best repository of documentation is lisp4.net. I would also have a look to https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-jakab-lisp-deployment/ Luigi On 11, Apr, 2011, at 16:49 , Christina Klam wrote: > All, > > One of our ISP is planning to do a LISP deployment. (1) Does anyo

Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites

2011-04-11 Thread Luigi Iannone
On 11, Apr, 2011, at 15:17 , Owen DeLong wrote: [snip] >>> >>> Doing IPv4 LISP on any kind of scale requires significant additional >>> prefixes which at this time doesn't seem so practical to me. >> >> This is not accurate IMO. To inject prefixes in the BGP is needed only to >> make non-LISP

Re: Implementations/suggestions for Multihoming IPv6 for DSL sites

2011-04-11 Thread Luigi Iannone
On 9, Apr, 2011, at 16:00 , Owen DeLong wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 9, 2011, at 4:31 AM, Job Snijders wrote: > >> Dear All, >> >> On 8 Apr 2011, at 19:34, Lori Jakab wrote: >> >>> On 04/08/2011 06:39 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> LISP can also be a good option. Comes with s

Re: IPv6 prefix lengths

2011-01-13 Thread Luigi Iannone
On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:49 , Owen DeLong wrote: >> Most people do not know about the "multi-homing feature" designed into >> IPv6. Most people who do, seem to agree that it may not see enough >> practical use to have meaningful impact on routing table growth, which >> will no longer be kept in ch

Re: Start accepting longer prefixes as IPv4 depletes?

2010-12-10 Thread Luigi Iannone
On Dec 10, 2010, at 12:30 , Robert Bonomi wrote: >> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Wed Dec 8 15:36:44 >> 2010 >> Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 15:34:47 -0600 >> From: Jack Bates >> To: David Conrad >> Subject: Re: Start accepting longer prefixes as IPv4 depletes? >> Cc: NANOG

Re: LISP Works - Re: Facebook Issues/Outage in Southeast?

2010-10-01 Thread Luigi Iannone
On Sep 30, 2010, at 17:15 , Job W. J. Snijders wrote: > Dear Cameron & everybody, > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 8:32 PM, Job W. J. Snijders > wrote: > The fact that LISP does help in IPv6 Transition solutions (due to its inherent AF agnostic design), is compelling. As you say, real en

Re: BGP Tool for Simulation

2010-06-28 Thread Luigi Iannone
I recently came across NetKit that seems to offer what you are looking for... http://wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Main_Page L. On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:32 , Lynchehaun, Patrick (Patrick) wrote: > > You could use load sbgp/mrtd script to load route dumps. There is also > bgpsimple http://code.goo

Re: Gmail down?

2009-02-24 Thread Luigi Iannone
In Germany was down as well, but now works fine again. Luigi On Feb 24, 2009, at 13:16 , Sarunas Vancevicius wrote: The web interface is down in Ireland too. But IMAP access is working fine. On 12:12, Tue 24 Feb 09, Tobias Bartholdi wrote: yup, down in switzerland too... -Original Messa