Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-10 Thread Jason Iannone
Saku speaks from the privileged position of an infrastructure owner. We assume that interface connectivity is provided by L1 links, with OEO in transit nodes as a worst case. But the clever budget conscious among us have deployed router links over provided MPLS based L2 services as critical infras

Re: BFD vs network brownouts

2025-01-08 Thread Jason Iannone
BFD is binary. Service OAM 802.3ag / ITU-T Y.1731 generates time series data that talks to service reliability and SLA. OAM offers interface shut and fault propagation as well, which means it's both an observability tool and an operational one. BFD is just not the thing for measuring the reliabilit

Re: BGP AFI or SAFI for advertising BFD status

2024-12-23 Thread Jason Iannone
Is this a bgp-ls solution to an snmp trap problem? Why can oss do this notification? Are we turning bgp into nms? On Sat, Dec 21, 2024, 7:41 PM Douglas Fischer wrote: > I'm looking for a way to propagate the status of BFD sessions running on > one router to another via BGP. > > Considering the v

Re: WSJ: Dozens of Countries Hit in Chinese Telecom Hacking Campaign, Top U.S. Official Says

2024-12-05 Thread Jason Iannone
CNN mentioned Lumen. T-Mo? On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 5:22 PM J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > Failing to find a list of providers that were hit. Anyone know more ? I > don't see them mentioned. > Verizon & AT&T I know of. > > -- > J. Hellenthal > > The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only

Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology

2024-11-13 Thread Jason Iannone
Imagine decentralizing x.509. On Wed, Nov 13, 2024 at 11:42 AM Roman Tatarnikov wrote: > >Could this approach work? Perhaps there’s existing research on similar > >methods? > > Brandon, I blockchain and BGP were discussed on NANOG some years ago, back > when the deployment of RPKI was br

Re: Large RTT or Why doesn't my ping traffic get discarded?

2022-12-22 Thread Jason Iannone
Thanks for engaging with this. I was intentionally brief in my explanation. I have observed this behavior in congested networks for years and ignored it as an obvious symptom of the congestion. What has always piqued my curiosity though is just how long a ping can last. In my case yesterday, I was

Large RTT or Why doesn't my ping traffic get discarded?

2022-12-21 Thread Jason Iannone
Here's a question I haven't bothered to ask until now. Can someone please help me understand why I receive a ping reply after almost 5 seconds? As I understand it, buffers in SP gear are generally 100ms. According to my math this round trip should have been discarded around the 1 second mark, even

Re: Providing IPv4 Services in an IPv6 Backbone

2021-10-22 Thread Jason Iannone
Thanks for sharing. Maybe I have blinders on, but LDPv6 and the v6 SR flavors don't have much use if v4 CE sites aren't supported. Jason On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 12:56 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 10/21/21 21:18, Jason Iannone wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > &

Providing IPv4 Services in an IPv6 Backbone

2021-10-21 Thread Jason Iannone
Hi all, Have there been any gap closures on RFC7439? I am particularly interested in 4PE, 4VPE, and other MPLS enabled services like L3VPN, NG-MVPN, E-Line, E-LAN, and EVPN. Does Juniper have an "ipv4-tunneling" mpls keyword? Thanks, Jason

Re: S.Korea broadband firm sues Netflix after traffic surge

2021-10-12 Thread Jason Iannone
Isn't this a problem with legacy peering agreements in today's internet? The same thing happened between Netflix, Level3, and Verizon a few years ago. The legacy concept of settlement-free peering is based on traffic forwarding parity. If what I forward to you roughly matches what you forward to me

Re: Waste will kill ipv6 too

2017-12-21 Thread Jason Iannone
M&A plays into this too. By my calculations, CenturyLink controls at least 17 million /48s. How many sites does CenturyLink provide service to? I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's not 17 million. 3 acquisitions rolled up into AS209: as3549 2605:a300::/32 2001:450::/32 as4323 2604:6680::/

Re: Companies using public IP space owned by others for internal routing

2017-12-18 Thread Jason Iannone
My previous employer used 198.18/15 for CE links on IPVPN services. Walgreens used an American SP's space internally and couldn't talk to any users in that space as a result. On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > some fun examples of the size of ipv6: > > https://samsclass.info/i

Re: Benefits (and Detriments) of Standardizing Network Equipment in a Global Organization

2017-01-06 Thread Jason Iannone
Hey Chris, Size has a lot to do with policy. For very large organizations, regional models make sense. Orwell had his regional divisions[1] and Level3 has theirs[2]. TW had a domestic version of regions before things were centralized. I'd argue for the organizational affect of standardization.

Re: Request for comment -- BCP38

2016-09-27 Thread Jason Iannone
I have a question regarding language. We've seen bcp38 described as a forwarding filter, preventing unallocated sources from leaving the AS. I understand that unicast reverse path forwarding checks support bcp38, but urpf is an input check with significant technical differences from output filters

Re: IP and Optical domains?

2016-06-22 Thread Jason Iannone
The IP and Transport groups are customers of each other. When I need a wire, I ask the Transport group to deliver a wire. This is pretty simple division of labor stuff. Transport has the intimate knowledge of the layer 1 infrastructure and IP has intimate knowledge of services. Sure there is in

Re: BGP MVPN RFC6513, Section 10

2016-03-02 Thread Jason Iannone
you want to use: > - spt-only: is quite "simple". We only have (s,g) in the core. To validate > an os, it's faster. > - rpt-spt. We have both (*,g) and (s,g) in the core. the validation is more > complex, the protocol is more dynamic... > > Regards, > Yann. &

BGP MVPN RFC6513, Section 10

2016-02-23 Thread Jason Iannone
Hi all, I'm having trouble interpreting under what circumstance section 10 of BGP MVPN comes into play. The way I read this section, upon the receipt of PIM/IGMP Join to (*,G) the Receiver Site PE does not signal Type 6 or Type 7 Joins until a Type 5 Source Active route is received from a Sender

Re: Traceroute troubleshooting

2015-11-02 Thread Jason Iannone
If your vendors support it, doing stuff in-box is nice: ITU-T Y.1731. If you're looking for an off box solution, PerfSONAR is actively developed. You need some kind of ownership of all test points for configuration and reporting for both solutions. On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Joe Maimon wrot

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Re: Searching for a quote

2015-03-12 Thread Jason Iannone
Low hanging fruit. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 6:29 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: > That was quick. :-) > > > Tom Paseka wrote: >> >> Be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept >> >> ^http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle >>

Re: Searching for a quote

2015-03-12 Thread Jason Iannone
on should be > conservative in its sending behavior, and liberal in its receiving behavior" > (reworded in RFC 1122 as "Be liberal in what you accept, and conservative in > what you send"). > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Jason Iannone > wrote: >> >>

Searching for a quote

2015-03-12 Thread Jason Iannone
There was once a fairly common saying attributed to an early networking pioneer that went something like, "be generous in what you accept, and send only the stuff that should be sent." Does anyone know what I'm talking about or who said it?

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-07-21 Thread Jason Iannone
generates a third of the internet's traffic. That leads to special considerations for Netflix as it makes its transit and interconnection contracts. Anyone promising anything to Netflix should consider its bitweight. On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-07-21 Thread Jason Iannone
Lots of blame to go around. Verizon isn't an eyeball only network (Comcast would have a more difficult time describing itself as anything but), so a reasonable peering policy should apply. In Verizon's case, 1.8:1. I speculate that without Netflix, Cogent and L3 are largely within the specificat

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-07-21 Thread Jason Iannone
; On July 21, 2014 12:46:27 PM EDT, Jason Iannone > wrote: >> >> There was a muni case in my neck of the woods a couple of years ago. >> Comcast spent an order of magnitude more than the municipality but >> still lost. >> >> Anyway, follow the money. "Blac

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-07-21 Thread Jason Iannone
There was a muni case in my neck of the woods a couple of years ago. Comcast spent an order of magnitude more than the municipality but still lost. Anyway, follow the money. "Blackburn’s largest career donors are .. PACs affiliated with AT&T ... ($66,750) and Comcast ... ($36,600). ... Blackburn

Re: Net Neutrality...

2014-07-16 Thread Jason Iannone
Barry, Your point is well made and applies to present conditions. I'm not sure the current Net Neutrality debate extends so much to access, though we should talk about that (Consumer access service policy: No servers at home!? Asymmetric bandwidth profiles!? What is this, the dark ages?). The p

Re: [[Infowarrior] - NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for Years]

2014-04-16 Thread Jason Iannone
I can't cite chapter and verse but I seem to remember this zeroing problem was solved decades ago by just introducing a bit which said this chunk of memory or disk is new (to this process) and not zeroed but if there's any attempt to actually access it then read it back as if it were filled with ze

Re: MPLS L2VPN monitoring

2012-07-19 Thread Jason Iannone
We also use UNI NIDs that trap interface status, log interface and COS queue statistics, and respond to y.1731 traffic. On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 7:56 AM, Siegel, David wrote: > We deploy NIDs to the customer premise. You just can't get enough alarm data > be looking only at your router/switch on

Re: ARIN and IPv6 Requests

2011-02-10 Thread Jason Iannone
It also looks like there isn't a policy for orgs with multiple multihomed sites to get a /48 per site. Is there an exception policy somewhere? On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 12:50 PM, wrote: > Initial. Documenting IPv4 usage is in the request template. > > -- > Adam Webb > > > > > > From: > "Nick Olse

Re: Failover IPv6 with multiple PA prefixes (Was: IPv6 fc00::/7 - Unique local addresses)

2010-11-01 Thread Jason Iannone
Define long prefix length. Owen has been fairly forceful in his advocacy of /48s at every site. Is this too long a prefix? Should peers only except /32s and shorter? On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM, David Conrad wrote: > On Oct 31, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> Would it help if ARIN

Re: Online games stealing your bandwidth

2010-09-28 Thread Jason Iannone
In my experience users aren't willing to pay for dedicated bandwidth. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 1:22 PM, manolo hernandez wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 9/28/10 3:01 PM, Warren Bailey wrote: >> Jack, >> >> Apologies, I did not realize that you guys were doing so muc

Re: Google wants your Internet to be faster

2010-08-09 Thread Jason Iannone
http://googlepublicpolicy.blogspot.com/2010/08/joint-policy-proposal-for-open-internet.html Pretty boiler plate pro net neutral. The transparency requirements and 'differentiated services' exceptions are particularly interesting. On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:23 PM, Reese wrote: > On 09 Aug 10 12:3

Re: BGP Confederation over Route Reflector

2009-09-10 Thread Jason Iannone
I would say confeds are more appropriate for larger ibgp networks. You can have reflectors inside confederations. See the BGP chapter of the JNCIP book. On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Buraglio, Nicholas D wrote: > Lots of things can be used to determine how you decide to set up your > BGP peer

Re: The Confiker Virus.

2009-04-01 Thread Jason Iannone
What's the virus doing with all of those domain names? On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Michael Holstein wrote: > >> Of the 50,000 DNS names generated for today .. > > Additional info .. > > Top 10 ASN by number/name : > > 5680 -- 1280 ISC-AS1280 Internet Systems Consortium, Inc.     2820 -- 1668

Re: What's with all the long aspaths?

2008-10-23 Thread Jason Iannone
Except when their primary path goes away and relatively few networks install the prepended route. It's all conjecture, but I like the 'in effort to defeat local pref' option. On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 10:53 AM, Tomas L. Byrnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not using that prepended route is exactly w

Re: rib dumps

2008-06-30 Thread Jason Iannone
renesys? On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i am looking for date-stamped rib dumps going back years from a peering > edge router that is fairly 'stable', i.e. multi-peer dfz but the number > of peers changes infrequently. > > [ routeviews and ris do not meet

Re: AOL Instant Messenger

2008-06-17 Thread Jason Iannone
there's a big ole' thread on the outages list. On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Johnson, Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is anyone else seeing issues with AOL Instant Messenger? Personally, my > PC logged out for 10-15 minutes this morning and came right back, but my > home PC and the desktops of