Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-28 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mehmet Akcin wrote: I am kind of curious of the ICANN/IANA position on this? https://afrinic.net/history In April 2005, ICANN accredited AFRINIC as the fifth Regional Internet Registry according to criteria defined in its ICP-2 document (criteria for the establishment of regional Internet regi

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-28 Thread Mehmet Akcin
I am kind of curious of the ICANN/IANA position on this? On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 13:32 Masataka Ohta < mo...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp> wrote: > Owen DeLong wrote: > > >> Then, several years will be lost if we wait Mauritius court > >> settle the issue. > >> > >> A quick fix for the internationa

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-28 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 8/27/21 09:18, Aaron Wendel wrote: I suppose people who wanted to take a side could also block traffic to and from Cloud Innovations IP blocks. All it would take is for one 800-pound gorilla to do so. Cloud Innovations would implode should Google, Microsoft, or Amazon drop all traffic from

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-28 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 27/08/2021 18:36, Bill Woodcock wrote: As many of you are aware, AfriNIC is under legal attack by Heng Lu / “Cloud Innovation.” John Curran just posted an excellent summary of the current state of affairs here: https://teamarin.net/2021/08/27/afrinic-and-the-stability-of-the-internet-

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-28 Thread Masataka Ohta
Owen DeLong wrote: Then, several years will be lost if we wait Mauritius court settle the issue. A quick fix for the international internet community can be to abandon AfriNIC and establish, outside of Mauritius, a new entity, which may employ current AfriNIC employers, recognized by the intern

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-28 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Aug 28, 2021, at 10:02 , Masataka Ohta > wrote: > > John Curran wrote: > >> Indeterminate at this time, since a “Freezing Order" issued via ex >> party hearing doesn’t actually test the strength of the arguments, as >> the affected party is not present to respond. It is only when the >

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-28 Thread Tom Beecher
> > Maybe some will, but they'd be better off selling them before the RIRs > decide to expand their scope and start mass reclaiming for profit. > I'm sorry, what? On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 9:36 PM Laszlo Hanyecz wrote: > > On 2021-08-28 00:58, Tom Beecher wrote: > > Fundamentally I think everyone

Re: An update on the AfriNIC situation

2021-08-28 Thread Masataka Ohta
John Curran wrote: Indeterminate at this time, since a “Freezing Order" issued via ex party hearing doesn’t actually test the strength of the arguments, as the affected party is not present to respond. It is only when the case for the validation of the order is heard that the strength of the ar