CDN, Steam, Origin and NAT.

2016-04-20 Thread Laurent Dumont
Hi, We are running a small-ish LAN event in Toronto where we have to use a single IP address to NAT between 250-350 players. I have been made aware of possible issues with different services like Steam, Origin and Twitch who can run into issues when a large number of connections seem to origi

Re: DOCSIS 3.1 upstream

2016-04-20 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2016-04-20 13:09, Rob Seastrom wrote: > Going to D3.1 in a meaningful way means migrating to either a mid-split at 85 > MHz or a high split at 200 MHz Thanks. This is what I expected. But in the past, the canadian cablecos had argued that removing the 42mhz upstream limitation was a huge end

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Eric Kuhnke
ting is owned/run by tucows, who are now also doing a 1Gb (GPON?) residential single home FTTH project... http://www.fiercetelecom.com/europe/tags/tucows On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Ting's support is the BEST support I've ever had in the IT industry. I > event ended

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Josh Reynolds
Ting's support is the BEST support I've ever had in the IT industry. I event ended up in a long discussion with one of the reps about custom roms :P On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > *shrugs* Seems to work here, though if Ting uses T-Mo and Sprint, I suppose > Ting's more li

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Mike Hammett
*shrugs* Seems to work here, though if Ting uses T-Mo and Sprint, I suppose Ting's more likely to have a good signal. I don't expect much support on a $6 mobile wireless service. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http:

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Dovid Bender
Yang, Thanks. I will check them out. On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 4:02 PM, Yang Yu wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Dovid Bender wrote: > > Thank you everyone for your feedback. I also wanted to know if any > > providers offered unlimited 2g since in some cases they want to stream > back

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Yang Yu
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Dovid Bender wrote: > Thank you everyone for your feedback. I also wanted to know if any > providers offered unlimited 2g since in some cases they want to stream back > some audio as well. 4gantennashop has T-Mobile business with LTE data and unlimited 2G afterwar

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Donn Lasher via NANOG
As a 3+ year “customer” of freedom-pop, I agree. Their IP service was a bargain until the WiMax->LTE migration. Now the service is useless. Their technical support continually redefines lack of effort. On 4/20/16, 11:42 AM, "NANOG on behalf of Owen DeLong" wrote: >I had horrible experience

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Dovid Bender
Thank you everyone for your feedback. I also wanted to know if any providers offered unlimited 2g since in some cases they want to stream back some audio as well. On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Dovid Bender wrote: > A while ago some people mentioned that some US carriers have basic > internet

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Owen DeLong
I had horrible experience when I tried to use Freedom POP many years ago. Their customer service is awful and completely uncooperative. Their equipment did not work well in my environment at all. I would not wish them on my worst enemy. Owen > On Apr 20, 2016, at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Look into Ting if all you want is a backup OOB path: https://ting.com/rates?ab=1 $6/month per active SIM card. Plus billing for actual data usage. Use it in your choice of HSPA+/LTE modem equipment. They're an MVNO using, if I remember right, a combination of T-Mobile and Sprint. On Wed, Apr 20,

Re: Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd look at FreedomPOP's Netgear 341U. $20 - $50 NRC, single digit MRC for low usage. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Dovid Bender" To: "NANOG" Sent

Mobile providers in the US for backup access

2016-04-20 Thread Dovid Bender
A while ago some people mentioned that some US carriers have basic internet plans for backup access to their equipment. A few questions: 1) Do they give you a public IP per connection or do you tunnel back to a central location and then connect via the tunnel? 2) Which carriers offer this and what

Re: DOCSIS 3.1 upstream

2016-04-20 Thread Rob Seastrom
> On Apr 14, 2016, at 10:43 PM, Jean-Francois Mezei > wrote: > > Also, have cablecos with such limits for upstream begun to upgrade the > cable plant to increase the upstream bandwidth ? Canadian cablecos have > told the regulator it would be prohibitively expensive to do so, but > incumbents t

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

2016-04-20 Thread Dan Lacey
Great explanation! Remember that LECs (Local Exchange Carrier, CenturyLink, Verizon, etc.) typically get to decide how this all works... ATT is still an 800 pound gorilla and a couple years ago stopped ALL payments to CLECs (Competitive Local Exchange Carrier, buy wholesale from LECs), took th

Re: Latency, TCP ACKs and upload needs

2016-04-20 Thread Tony Finch
Leo Bicknell wrote: > > 1460 byte payloads down, maybe 64 byte acks on the return, and with SACK > which is widely deployed an ACK every 2-4 packets. You would see about > 2,140 packets/sec downstream (25Mbps/1460), and perhaps send 1070 ACKs > back upstream, at 64 bytes each, or about 68Kbps. W

Re: Latency, TCP ACKs and upload needs

2016-04-20 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: Considering a single download TCP connection. I am aware that modern TCP stacks will rationalize ACKs and send 1 ACK for every x packets received, thus reducing upload bandwidth requirements. Is this basically widespread and assumed that everyone

Re: Latency, TCP ACKs and upload needs

2016-04-20 Thread Lee
On 4/20/16, Leo Bicknell wrote: > > Others have already answered with the technical details. Let me take a > stab at some more, uh, variable items. [.. snip lots ..] > 90%+ of the stacks deployed will be too small. Modern Unix generally > has "autotuning" TCP stacks, but I don't think Windows

Re: Latency, TCP ACKs and upload needs

2016-04-20 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
Thanks to all for the sanity check. Always depressing when you think you may have a good argument but after much reading, you find out you don't :-( BTW, in case someone knows. With the recent "beam" satellites having a lot of different focused antennas, how does the uplink work ? Does all traff

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

2016-04-20 Thread John Levine
>> For the most part, “long distance” calls within the US are a thing of the >> past and at least one mobile carrier now treats US/CA/MX as a single >> local calling area > >Is this a case of telcos having switched to IP trunks and can reach >other carriers for "free" No, it's because fiber bandw

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

2016-04-20 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Apr 20, 2016, at 7:59 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei > wrote: > > On 2016-04-20 10:52, Owen DeLong wrote: > >> For the most part, “long distance” calls within the US are a thing of the >> past and at least one mobile carrier now treats US/CA/MX as a single >> local calling area > > > Is this

Re: Latency, TCP ACKs and upload needs

2016-04-20 Thread Lee
On 4/19/16, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > As part of the ongoing CRTC hearings, the incumbents' claim that > continued implementation of the current 5/1 standard would make Canada a > world leader for broadband in the future. > > A satellite company who currently can't even deliver its advertised 5

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

2016-04-20 Thread Jean-Francois Mezei
On 2016-04-20 10:52, Owen DeLong wrote: > For the most part, “long distance” calls within the US are a thing of the > past and at least one mobile carrier now treats US/CA/MX as a single > local calling area Is this a case of telcos having switched to IP trunks and can reach other carriers for

Re: phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

2016-04-20 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Apr 15, 2016, at 2:21 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > > In message , David Barak > writes > : >>> On Apr 15, 2016, at 3:09 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: >>> >>> Australia is about the area as the US and has always had caller >>> pays and seperate area codes for mobiles. >> >> Australia has fewer

Arista Routing Solutions

2016-04-20 Thread Colton Conor
NANOG, I know Arista is typically a switch manufacturer, but with their recently announced Arista 7500R Series and soon to be announced but already shipping 7280R Series Arista is officially getting into the routing game. The fixed 1U 7280R Series looks quite impressive. The 7500R series is your t

Re: Latency, TCP ACKs and upload needs

2016-04-20 Thread Leo Bicknell
Others have already answered with the technical details. Let me take a stab at some more, uh, variable items. In a message written on Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 09:29:12PM -0400, Jean-Francois Mezei wrote: > Also, when you establish a TCP connection, do most stacks have a default > window size that

Re: ASR-9K CPU troubleshooting

2016-04-20 Thread Rukka Pal
This document (BRKARC-2017) turned out to be very useful to determine the possible root-cause. The utilization of the spp and netio processes increase if the router/line-card is software switching traffic, in our case ICMP. We will test the policing feature and implement it. On Wed, Apr 20, 2016