Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

2013-04-26 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-26 23:08, shawn wilson wrote: There's ways around it for most software but old jetdirect stuff, switches, routers, ip control systems. Things are going to be 6to4 for a while. In fact I won't be surprised to see little hardware boxes that do it for $30 or so (probably late with this id

Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

2013-04-26 Thread shawn wilson
There's ways around it for most software but old jetdirect stuff, switches, routers, ip control systems. Things are going to be 6to4 for a while. In fact I won't be surprised to see little hardware boxes that do it for $30 or so (probably late with this idea but have no need to know). On Apr 27, 20

Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

2013-04-26 Thread Jima
On 2013-04-26 01:29, Don Gould wrote: I agree with others that there is still way to much XP and other non supporting platforms and I suspect that by the time we get those out of the system we'll be most of the way there for IPv6 access. And heck, you don't even need to get rid of XP for IPv6

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread John Curran
On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> amusing how much curran is interested in asserting his/arin's power and >>> rights and how little he speaks to the interest of the internet and the >>> isps. >> The power is in the hands of this community > > what bollocks Well, given that any

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
sorry, bug in .procmailrc. bye.

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread John Curran
On Apr 24, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Andrew Latham wrote: > FYI, What can ARIN, RIPE et al do to reclaim > http://www.spamhaus.org/drop/drop.txt networks? If you know that one of these blocks has been hijacked at ARIN, and can provide some supporting information, then please report it here:

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread John Curran
On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> amusing how much curran is interested in asserting his/arin's power and >>> rights and how little he speaks to the interest of the internet and the >>> isps. >> The power is in the hands of this community > > what bollocks Well, given that any

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
>> amusing how much curran is interested in asserting his/arin's power and >> rights and how little he speaks to the interest of the internet and the >> isps. > The power is in the hands of this community what bollocks

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread John Curran
On Apr 25, 2013, at 5:24 PM, Randy Bush wrote: > amusing how much curran is interested in asserting his/arin's power and > rights and how little he speaks to the interest of the internet and the > isps. The power is in the hands of this community; they get to set whatever policies are used for

Re: Op USA - DDoS

2013-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
end of net predicted. news at eleven.

BGP Update Report

2013-04-26 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 18-Apr-13 -to- 25-Apr-13 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS982958496 1.9% 38.7 -- BSNL-NIB National Internet Backbone 2 - AS84024

The Cidr Report

2013-04-26 Thread cidr-report
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Re: KVM

2013-04-26 Thread John Mason Jr
They are cheaper at CDW On Apr 26, 2013, at 5:34 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > > On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:52 PM, John Mason wrote: > >> http://www.startech.com/Server-Management/KVM-Switches/Portable-USB-PS-2-KVM-Console-Adapter-for-Notebook-PCs~NOTECONS01 >> > > Oh yeah, that's the one… $470.. N

Re: KVM

2013-04-26 Thread John Mason
http://www.startech.com/Server-Management/KVM-Switches/Portable-USB-PS-2-KVM-Console-Adapter-for-Notebook-PCs~NOTECONS01 On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > > On Apr 23, 2013, at 5:36 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > > > I'm looking at an IP-KVM. I don't need anything high res as

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Nick Guy
I can be available feel free to call. On 4/26/13 10:46 AM, "Chris Adams" wrote: >Once upon a time, Owen DeLong said: >> As I understand it you can get some funky level of IPv6 on some of the >>older >> AWS products. I'm glad to hear that BING is now on IPv6. Guess they were >> getting scroogled

Op USA - DDoS

2013-04-26 Thread Eric Williams
Does anybody have anymore information about the possible upcoming DDoS attack (called Op USA) from the Mauritania HaCker Team besides the information listed below on May 7th? Any suggestions on preventing or deflecting this type of attack and exactly what US companies or industries they might be t

Re: KVM

2013-04-26 Thread Warren Kumari
On Apr 26, 2013, at 4:52 PM, John Mason wrote: > http://www.startech.com/Server-Management/KVM-Switches/Portable-USB-PS-2-KVM-Console-Adapter-for-Notebook-PCs~NOTECONS01 > Oh yeah, that's the one… $470.. Now I remember why I didn't buy one when I first saw it… W > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at

Re: KVM

2013-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
> I thought about doing it this way and went with the lantronix spider > instead. the lantronix is expensive but rocks randy

Re: KVM

2013-04-26 Thread joel jaeggli
On 4/26/13 1:49 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Apr 23, 2013, at 5:36 PM, shawn wilson wrote: I'm looking at an IP-KVM. I don't need anything high res as I only need to see Linux consoles, BIOS, and RAID. What I am looking for: Non-Java client that runs on Linux (or a WebUI that will deploy a dece

Re: KVM

2013-04-26 Thread Warren Kumari
On Apr 23, 2013, at 5:36 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > I'm looking at an IP-KVM. I don't need anything high res as I only > need to see Linux consoles, BIOS, and RAID. What I am looking for: > Non-Java client that runs on Linux (or a WebUI that will deploy a > decent RDP or VNC session over SSL). >

Re: skype shoots self in foot

2013-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
report bugs. they're great about fixes randy

Re: skype shoots self in foot

2013-04-26 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Apr 26, 2013, at 3:24 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> until widespread availability of webrtc, a bunch of us are using >>> jitsi for video, https://jitsi.org/ >> And last I tried it, it kept segfaulting on something dumb ;) > > try the nightlies > I'm trying the latest two nightlies -- two annoy

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Doug Barton
On 04/26/2013 05:37 AM, Tore Anderson wrote: * Owen DeLong Quite the contrary… I personally think that the abysmal rate of IPv6 adoption among some content providers (Are you listening, Amazon, Xbox, BING?) is just plain shameful. FWIW, www.bing.com resolves to IPv6 addresses from where I'm s

Weekly Routing Table Report

2013-04-26 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.ap

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Owen DeLong
> Bing supports IPv6: http://www.worldipv6launch.org/ Noted. > The site www.xbox.com supports IPv6 (ditto), but the Xbox device does not. Noted. > My favorite place to see what content supports IPv6 is Eric Vyncke's site: > http://www.vyncke.org/ipv6status/detailed.php?country=us An excellent

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Owen DeLong said: > As I understand it you can get some funky level of IPv6 on some of the older > AWS products. I'm glad to hear that BING is now on IPv6. Guess they were > getting scroogled for that failure. ;-) I believe Bing is Akamaized (it is for me anyway), so whether you

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Owen DeLong
As I understand it you can get some funky level of IPv6 on some of the older AWS products. I'm glad to hear that BING is now on IPv6. Guess they were getting scroogled for that failure. ;-) At least so far, this remains a problem: Owens-MacBook-Pro:blink-cocoa owendelong$ dig amazon.com ; <

"Open IX" - Seeking to improve IX usefulness in the US

2013-04-26 Thread David Temkin
All, A cross-functional group representing content providers, data center providers, and NSPs are working together to provide alternative interconnection options in various markets in the US by working to foster a more neutral environment for interconnectivity. We are seeking input as to what mar

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Lee Howard
On 4/26/13 7:31 AM, "Owen DeLong" wrote: > >On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > >> On 04/25/2013 07:27 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: At some level, I wonder how much the feedback loop of "providers won't deploy ipv6 because everybody says they won't deploy ipv6" has c

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread cb.list6
On Apr 25, 2013 10:29 PM, "joel jaeggli" wrote: > > On 4/25/13 10:16 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: >> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 07:49:03PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: >>> >>> On 04/25/2013 07:27 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: AWS stands out as a complete laggard in this area. >>> >>> Heh... that's wh

Re: lag testbed needed

2013-04-26 Thread Christopher Morrow
what platform and what requirements for the network bits? is multiple lag hops good? bad? other? On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > a small gaggle of researchers are looking at some measurements over > a setup like this > > .--. .-

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread John Curran
On Apr 26, 2013, at 10:23 AM, Chris Grundemann wrote: > > One interesting twist in all of this is that several of these new > "slow-start" players in the ARIN region seem to be servicing customers > outside of the region with equipment and services hosted here inside > the ARIN region (see slide

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Chris Grundemann
On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 3:12 AM, Geoff Huston wrote: > > On 26/04/2013, at 4:27 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: > >>> >>> I also find it a bit strange that the runout in APNIC and RIPE was very >>> different. APNIC address allocation rate accelerated at the end, whereas >>> RIPE exhaustion date kept cr

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Thu, 25 Apr 2013, joel jaeggli wrote: On 4/25/13 10:16 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 07:49:03PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: Even if the only thing that supported IPv6 was ELB, and everything else was still IPv4 internally, that'd put a lot of traffic on IPv6 very quickly

Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

2013-04-26 Thread Yang Yu
If the hosting provider can still charge for IPv4 addresses, why would they support SNI or IPv6 SSL ;) I have seen a CDN using certificates with tons of domain names in subject alternative name. Old Symbian phones don't support SAN.. On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 10:32 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > -

RE: UN Secretariat building in nyc

2013-04-26 Thread Adam Greene
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Re: skype shoots self in foot

2013-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
> This looks very useful. Would love to see mobile devices (e.g. > Tablets) supporting it. > I dislike having to put my stuff on servers just for sharing among my > devices. or for sharing between friends/co-workers. i just don't like putting my stuff on other people's servers, period. randy

Re: skype shoots self in foot

2013-04-26 Thread Rajiv Asati (rajiva)
> and while you are looking at escaping other big company servers, > check out http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html, real > peer to peer dropbox. This looks very useful. Would love to see mobile devices (e.g. Tablets) supporting it. I dislike having to put my stuff on servers just f

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Tore Anderson
* Owen DeLong > Quite the contrary… I personally think that the abysmal rate of IPv6 > adoption among some content providers (Are you listening, Amazon, > Xbox, BING?) is just plain shameful. FWIW, www.bing.com resolves to IPv6 addresses from where I'm sitting (Oslo), and the page seems to load o

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 25, 2013, at 10:49 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: > On 04/25/2013 07:27 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >>> At some level, I wonder how much the feedback loop of "providers >>> won't deploy ipv6 because everybody says they won't deploy ipv6" >>> has caused this self-fulfilling prophecy :/ >> It's a def

lag testbed needed

2013-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
a small gaggle of researchers are looking at some measurements over a setup like this .--. .--. | source |--- RTR == RTR --| target | | host | LAG Bundle | host | `--'

Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

2013-04-26 Thread Don Gould
Hi Jay, The DTC hosting control panel team had a chat about this issue earlier in the year. http://gplhost.sg/lists/dtcdev/msg03482.html - Interesting reading. I followed a little, but decided that SNI just isn't worth our time. In my personal view, an hour spent on SNI is an hour wasted tha

Re: skype shoots self in foot

2013-04-26 Thread Randy Bush
>> until widespread availability of webrtc, a bunch of us are using >> jitsi for video, https://jitsi.org/ > And last I tried it, it kept segfaulting on something dumb ;) try the nightlies >> and while you are looking at escaping other big company servers, >> check out http://labs.bittorrent.com

Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM

2013-04-26 Thread Geoff Huston
On 26/04/2013, at 4:27 PM, joel jaeggli wrote: >> >> I also find it a bit strange that the runout in APNIC and RIPE was very >> different. APNIC address allocation rate accelerated at the end, whereas >> RIPE exhaustion date kept creeping forward in time instead of closer in >> time, giving