Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Joel jaeggli
Email as facility is a public good whether it constitutes a commons or not... If wasn't you wouldn't bother putting up a server that would accept unsolicited incoming connections on behalf of yourself and others, doing so is generically non-rival and non-excludable although not perfectly so in eith

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:59 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote: > On 10/28/2011 5:44 AM, William Herrin wrote: >> A commons is jointly owned, either by a non-trivial number of private >> owners or by all citizens of a government. > > The practical use of the term is a bit broader: >  

Re: Mexico?

2011-10-27 Thread Daniel Espejel
Hi Ryan...well, a late response, but actually you should take a look in the www.lacnic.net (Latin-america's RIR) and www.nic.mx (Network Information Center of Mexico) webpages and contact someone there to get all the information you need in order to obtain a IP addresses block. Regards > If

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Dave CROCKER
On 10/28/2011 5:44 AM, William Herrin wrote: A commons is jointly owned, either by a non-trivial number of private owners or by all citizens of a government. The practical use of the term is a bit broader: As rule, the term gets applied to situatio

Re: Update Bogon Lists

2011-10-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Ross Annetts wrote: > Hi, > > > > We have been allocated the IP range: > > > > 101.0.64.0/18 > (soon-to-be-released rfc about same) > > > And have had issues with 2 networks in re

Update Bogon Lists

2011-10-27 Thread Ross Annetts
Hi, We have been allocated the IP range: 101.0.64.0/18 And have had issues with 2 networks in regards to bogon filtering. It would be appreciated if everyone can remove it from their bogon lists. Regards, Ross Annetts Systems Administrator Digital Pacific http://www.digitalpacific.

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Pete Carah wrote: > On 10/27/2011 05:38 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:17:22 -, Brian Johnson said: >>> So... I'm in complete agreement with your statement, but The Wikipedia > reference is not pertinent. > > For our purpose, the o

RE: Need photographs of IT/Telecom gear/rooms

2011-10-27 Thread Eric Germann
There are some fairly interesting photos of the Verizon CO that took a hit on 9/11 at http://www.slideshare.net/datacenters/verizon-contingency-planning-for-coop I recall far back in my memory some posts on this from a decade ago that pointed to some websites that had more photos. Was kind of

Re: Mexico?

2011-10-27 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 10/27/11 20:24 , Ryan Finnesey wrote: > If I want to get a block of IP's issued for a network within Mexico who do I > talk with? I have been told arin does not cover Mexico. It was my > understand arin covers North America. mexico moved to the lacnic region with the formation of the lacnic r

Re: Mexico?

2011-10-27 Thread John Curran
On Oct 28, 2011, at 3:24 AM, Ryan Finnesey wrote: > If I want to get a block of IP's issued for a network within Mexico who do I > talk with? I have been told arin does not cover Mexico. It was my > understand arin covers North America. Hi Ryan - ARIN used to cover the entire global minu

Mexico?

2011-10-27 Thread Ryan Finnesey
If I want to get a block of IP's issued for a network within Mexico who do I talk with? I have been told arin does not cover Mexico. It was my understand arin covers North America. Cheers Ryan

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-27 Thread James Ashton
Christopher, This is pretty common policy. Not many datacenters of any size is going to act differently. If you don't purchase this service then you will not get the service. They may be willing work work with you on black-holing problem IPs though. This is pretty common, but don't expect

Re: Google+ now available for Google Apps domains

2011-10-27 Thread Justin Seabrook-Rocha
On Oct 27, 2011, at 6:32 PM, steve pirk [egrep] wrote: > Y'all ragged on me because Google+ was only available to gmail users... > Well, now you can enable it for your users from the control panel on your > Google Apps domains... > > Google Apps administrators can manually turn on > Google+

Google+ now available for Google Apps domains

2011-10-27 Thread steve pirk [egrep]
Y'all ragged on me because Google+ was only available to gmail users... Well, now you can enable it for your users from the control panel on your Google Apps domains... Google Apps administrators can manually turn on Google+ for > their

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Pete Carah
On 10/27/2011 05:38 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:17:22 -, Brian Johnson said: >> So... I'm in complete agreement with your statement, but The Wikipedia reference is not pertinent. > > So I point out the tragedy of the commons, you agree with it, but the Wikipedia

Re: Need photographs of IT/Telecom gear/rooms

2011-10-27 Thread Drew Linsalata
I did this at career day last spring for my daughter's fifth grade class. They were a bit young to get too deep into the nitty gritty, but they completely ate up the presentation and it was really gratifying to get notes and emails (all voluntarily sent) from some of the kids talking about how muc

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:17:22 -, Brian Johnson said: > So... I'm in complete agreement with your statement, but The Wikipedia > reference is not pertinent. So I point out the tragedy of the commons, you agree with it, but the Wikipedia reference that talks about the same exact thing isn't pert

Re: Fiber in Atlantic City, NJ

2011-10-27 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 5:16 PM, wrote: > Hello, > > If anyone has/knows of contacts among the fiber providers in Atlantic City, > NJ as close to the Broadwalk as possible ( especially those that might have > a leg to Philadelphia, PA ), could you kindly reply off list? sounds like quite the gam

Fiber in Atlantic City, NJ

2011-10-27 Thread alex-lists-nanog
Hello, If anyone has/knows of contacts among the fiber providers in Atlantic City, NJ as close to the Broadwalk as possible ( especially those that might have a leg to Philadelphia, PA ), could you kindly reply off list? Thank you, Alex

Re: Recommendation for customer monitoring network tool/portal for a large ISP

2011-10-27 Thread Jason Lixfeld
We've just deployed Intermapper to do all of our device polling, link status and topology mapping. Works very well and looks real pretty. For graphing, we use cacti with the Discovery and Autom8 plugins. For SNMP trap parsing, we use SNMPTT. We're currently evaluating Splunk to eat the SNMP tr

Re: Recommendation for customer monitoring network tool/portal for a large ISP

2011-10-27 Thread chip
Might want to check out NimSoft as well. Multitenancy built in. http://www.nimsoft.com/solutions On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 4:45 AM, Alex Nderitu wrote: > Hello, > What solutions do you guys in the fixed network business/ISPs use to provide > customer portals for network KPI reporting to custom

Re: Recommendation for customer monitoring network tool/portal for a large ISP

2011-10-27 Thread Godonou Dossou
You can all so look at Zenoss Sent from my iPhone On 2011-10-27, at 4:47 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: > I looked at Statseeker a while back and it was very good. > > -- > Leigh > > > On 27 Oct 2011, at 09:47, "Alex Nderitu" wrote: > >> Hello, >> What solutions do you guys in the fixed networ

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-27 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:52 AM, William Pitcock wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:22:53 -0400 > Chris wrote: >> This is a huge business. Shady "SEO" companies are charging >> individuals at least $250 per month to use their spam tools of choice >> to spam forums and Wordpress blogs. I got one of t

Re: Need photographs of IT/Telecom gear/rooms

2011-10-27 Thread chip
Mike, You might be able to glean some interesting pictures from: http://www.reddit.com/r/cableporn http://www.reddit.com/r/datacenter http://www.flickr.com/groups/cableporn/ * That's actual cables and racks and such, not cinemax late night video =) --chip On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Mi

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:53:34 -, Brian Johnson said: >> As a small regional provider, implementing a "sane" port 25 filter has >> saved us a lot of money and customer headaches over the years. >> >> It is interesting that some people who f

Need photographs of IT/Telecom gear/rooms

2011-10-27 Thread Mike
Greetings, I have been given the opportunity to teach the mechanics of the Internet to a group of 6 - 12'th grade students, and as an engineer and owner of an ISP I have it in mind to really get into this and show these kids how, really, all this stuff works and to make it fun and exciting.

RE: Recommendation for customer monitoring network tool/portal for a large ISP

2011-10-27 Thread McCall, Gabriel
I'm getting ready to do an eval of Monolith Software's monitoring/management product. They have some very nice multi-tenant dashboarding and reporting capabilities and are extremely scalable. -Gabriel -Original Message- From: Alex Nderitu [mailto:nderitua...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday,

BGP AS question

2011-10-27 Thread Cliff Bowles
Greetings. We have a few facilities within a 30 mile radius, and each has an ISP link. We use P2P links at the edge to make certain traffic sourcing from one facility, and destined to the Public IPs at another, stay on the "dirty" links rather than punting out to the ISP. All sites use the same

Re: XSServer / Taking down a spam friendly provider

2011-10-27 Thread Richard Kulawiec
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 08:22:53PM -0400, Chris wrote: > For folks who say hosting companies are not helpful: Linode, Amazon, > BurstNET, Ubiquity Servers and others are extremely responsive to > abuse complaints. Burstnet is one of the filthiest sewers on the entire Internet. Has been for many y

RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Johnson
>-Original Message- >From: Robert Bonomi [mailto:bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com] >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:50 PM >To: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers > > >On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:53:34 -, Brian Johnson said: > >> It is interesting that some people who fully under

RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Johnson
>-Original Message- >From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 10:24 AM >To: Brian Johnson >Cc: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers > >On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:53:34 -, Brian Johnson said: > >> It is interesting that s

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Robert Bonomi
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:53:34 -, Brian Johnson said: > It is interesting that some people who fully understand that the Internet is > composed of many networks run by people with different interests can say what > is best for the Internet as a whole. How my organization (or yours or anybody >

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:53:34 -, Brian Johnson said: > It is interesting that some people who fully understand that the Internet is > composed of many networks run by people with different interests can say what > is best for the Internet as a whole. How my organization (or yours or anybody > e

Re: Colocation providers and ACL requests

2011-10-27 Thread Keegan Holley
2011/10/26 Jay Ashworth > - Original Message - > > From: "Keegan Holley" > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: "Keegan Holley" > > > > > > > I'm assuming colo means hosting, and the OP misspoke. Most colo > > > > providers > > > > don't provide active network for colo (as i

RE: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Brian Johnson
I find that large network providers have less issues with this issue. As a small regional provider, implementing a "sane" port 25 filter has saved us a lot of money and customer headaches over the years. Our costs would be much higher if we could not save labor hours by implementing this. Possib

Re: Recommendation for customer monitoring network tool/portal for a large ISP

2011-10-27 Thread Leigh Porter
I looked at Statseeker a while back and it was very good. -- Leigh On 27 Oct 2011, at 09:47, "Alex Nderitu" wrote: > Hello, > What solutions do you guys in the fixed network business/ISPs use to provide > customer portals for network KPI reporting to customers in a fixed network on > real

Recommendation for customer monitoring network tool/portal for a large ISP

2011-10-27 Thread Alex Nderitu
Hello, What solutions do you guys in the fixed network business/ISPs use to provide customer portals for network KPI reporting to customers in a fixed network on real time basis. The KPI in question are network availability, utilization, memory/cpu of managed routers/firewall, jitter, packet l

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Bjørn Mork
Owen DeLong writes: > On Oct 26, 2011, at 8:07 PM, Scott Howard wrote: > >> As much as some ISPs still resist blocking port 25 for residential >> customers, it does have a major impact on the volume of spam leaving >> your network. I've worked with numerous ISPs as they have gone >> through the p

Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers

2011-10-27 Thread Bjørn Mork
Mark Andrews writes: > In message <4ea8a021.9000...@blakjak.net>, Mark Foster writes: > >> Why? It's a reasonable position; end users in the generic sense are >> sending to whatever their client has set up for SMTP, fire-and-forget. >> Again, I feel like folks are taking their relatively complic