>-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Bonomi [mailto:bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com] >Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 12:50 PM >To: nanog@nanog.org >Subject: Re: Outgoing SMTP Servers > > >On Thu, 27 Oct 2011 13:53:34 -0000, Brian Johnson said: > >> It is interesting that some people who fully understand that the Internet is >> composed of many networks run by people with different interests can say >what >> is best for the Internet as a whole. How my organization (or yours or >anybody >> else's) runs our network, is between us and our paying users. > >That claim is true *ONLY* to the extent that 'how your organization runs >your network' does _not_ have an adverse effect on other peoples networks. > >The fact of the matter is that you do not have a viable business without >the collective 'tolerance'/'approval' of the rest of the world. >
OK. >You, and your organization, need them far more than they need you. > Argumentative and unnecessary. >_How_ you pro-actively ensure spam does not exit from your network IS your >business. > >That you *do* do so _is_ within the action purveiw of the 'rest of the world'. > Judge me as you will. My customers will determine if I change this policy. Their judgment is all that matters in this circumstance as the external Internet community has the access that the Internet community needs relative to this instance. >"Doing so" requires that you _actively_ monitor the behavior of your >customers >and have 'ways and means' in place to (a) detect, and (b) _stop_ immediately >upon detection, such abusive behavior by your customers. > >One of the 'easiest', and most _cost-effective_ ways of doing so *is* to >force all outgoing mail from your customers through a 'choke point' for >examination/filtering/blckcing. > >The simplest way of doing that, *without* running afoul of 'wiretapping' >statutes. is to require, by policy and by blocking direct external access, >that customer out-bound email traffic go through your servers, and doing >the necessary 'inspection' there. > > I think you support my position, but I could be convinced otherwise. :) Be careful with you punctuation. I got lost a few times there :) - Brian
