Re: integrated KVMoIP and serial console terminal server

2009-04-24 Thread Owen DeLong
My favorite front end for serial console management is conserver. It's really great software and the price is right. http://www.conserver.com Owen On Apr 24, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Holmes,David A wrote: We have just implemented Avocent console and power concentrators. Console servers are reachab

RE: Config Backup / Inventory

2009-04-24 Thread Tim Sanderson
Kiwi CatTools works well for us-and it's inexpensive. I've been very happy with it. -- Tim -Original Message- From: Joshua Eyres [mailto:joshua.ey...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 4:25 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Config Backup / Inventory Hi, I am looking for a bit of ad

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-24 Thread Randy Bush
> A good web site to read a bout getting fast bulk data transfers is: > http://fasterdata.es.net indeed mtu clue is also useful. here on tokyo b-flets, and i would guess in many other ppoe environments, you need to tune or lose big-time. randy

RE: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-24 Thread Skywing
Keep in mind that you also need to patch your clients for perf improvements bidirectionally. As well as patching locally means you must assume responsibility for custom builds for security fixes on all of your clients and servers. - S -Original Message- From: Kevin Oberman Sent: Frid

Re: IXP

2009-04-24 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 04:22:49PM -0500, Paul Wall wrote: > On the twelfth day of Christmas, NYIIX gave to me, > Twelve peers in half-duplex, > Eleven OSPF hellos, > Ten proxy ARPs, > Nine CDP neighbors, > Eight defaulting peers, >

Re: integrated KVMoIP and serial console terminal server

2009-04-24 Thread Darren Bolding
We just switched from using Avocent/Cyclades to using Raritan for our terminal servers, and I am happier with the Raritan. I have used Raritan IP KVM's in the past and been happy, and the IT folks seem to like their new one. I found the Raritan terminal server docs much more complete, it's support

RE: integrated KVMoIP and serial console terminal server

2009-04-24 Thread Frank Bulk
The OpenGear (based on their online demo) has much better configuration GUI than the WTI, hands down. Every time I make a change on the WTI, it has to reboot itself. =( Frank -Original Message- From: Luke S Crawford [mailto:l...@prgmr.com] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 1:33 PM To: Joe Ab

Re: IXP

2009-04-24 Thread Paul Wall
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > Quite frankly, I think the failure modes have been grossly overblown. > The number of incidents of shared network badness that have caused > problems are actually few and far between.  I can't attribute any > down-time to shared-network badne

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-24 Thread Kevin Oberman
> From: Skywing > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:55:07 -0500 > > Of course, sftp and other ssh-based protocols are *still* hamstrung to > a maximum of 32k data outstanding due to hardcoded SSH channel window > sizes by default for most people, unless you're patching up both your > clients and servers.

RE: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-24 Thread Skywing
Of course, sftp and other ssh-based protocols are *still* hamstrung to a maximum of 32k data outstanding due to hardcoded SSH channel window sizes by default for most people, unless you're patching up both your clients and servers. Sadly, this blows ssh out of the water for anything with even m

RE: Config Backup / Inventory

2009-04-24 Thread Crooks, Sam
CheckoutAlterpoint Network Authority Inventory. The Inventory tool is free asn was developed as the Ziptie opensource project. Inventory is the basis for how Alterpoint does the paid offerings for configurtion audit and compliance and the higher level analytics based on the configuration and

Re: IXP

2009-04-24 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 24/04/2009 18:46, Leo Bicknell wrote: I have looked at the failure modes and the cost of fixing them and decided that it is cheaper and easier to deal with the failure modes than it is to deal with the fix. Leo, your position is: "worse is better". I happen to agree with this sentiment for

RE: Config Backup / Inventory

2009-04-24 Thread Stephens, Josh
Joe, If you're looking for a commercial solution, you might try out our Orion NCM product. http://www.solarwinds.com/products/orion/configuration_manager/ Ping me if you want any additional info. Josh -Original Message- From: Joe Provo [mailto:nanog-p...@rsuc.gweep.net] Sent: Friday, A

Re: IXP

2009-04-24 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 05:06:15PM +, Stephen Stuart wrote: > Your argument, and Leo's, is fundamentally the complacency argument > that I pointed out earlier. You're content with how things are, > despite the failure modes, and despite inefficiencies that the IXP > operat

Re: integrated KVMoIP and serial console terminal server

2009-04-24 Thread Luke S Crawford
Joe Abley writes: > What is everybody's favourite combination rack-mount VGA/USB KVM-over- > IP and serial console concentrator in 2009? > > I'm looking for something that will accommodate 8 or so 9600bps serial > devices and about 12 VGA/USB devices, all reachable over IP via sane > means (ssh,

Weekly Routing Table Report

2009-04-24 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
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Re: integrated KVMoIP and serial console terminal server

2009-04-24 Thread Martin Hannigan
Have you considered VM's for remote OS access to win devices and eliminating vga/kb requirements? If you are looking for console uptime and ease of use, avoid anything with moving parts (disk) and go with cisco. Consider the secondary market for the concentrator and cards to keep costs very low.

RE: integrated KVMoIP and serial console terminal server

2009-04-24 Thread Holmes,David A
We have just implemented Avocent console and power concentrators. Console servers are reachable via a highly customizable web interface. The Avocent software can also be virtualized on VMWare. Console connectivity can be provisioned to first try SSH via the IP network, and automatically failover to

Re: integrated KVMoIP and serial console terminal server

2009-04-24 Thread James Pleger
I have had good luck with Digi console managers for serial... I think they have some KVM functionality, but I don't know how well that works as I have only used the serial management. http://www.digi.com/products/consoleservers/ Regards, James Pleger e: jple...@gmail.com g: http://pgp.mit.e

Re: IXP

2009-04-24 Thread Stephen Stuart
> We got to go through all the badness that was the ATM NAPs (AADS, > PacBell NAP, MAE-WEST ATM). > > I think exactly for the reason Leo mentions they failed. That is, it > didn't even require people to figure out all the technical reasons they > were bad (many), they were fundamentally doomed

Re: integrated KVMoIP and serial console terminal server

2009-04-24 Thread Owen DeLong
I haven't really found a combo unit I like as yet. For KVM, I like the Raritan products. For Serial, I prefer the Avocent line. Owen On Apr 23, 2009, at 3:17 PM, Joe Abley wrote: Hi all, What is everybody's favourite combination rack-mount VGA/USB KVM- over-IP and serial console concentrato

Re: Config Backup / Inventory

2009-04-24 Thread Shane Ronan
Sounds like rancid & par to me. :-) Par?

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-24 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:05:26 +1200 > From: Perry Lorier > > > > > > > > Large data sets? So you are saying that 512-byte packets with no > > windowing work better? Bill, have you measured this? > > > > Time to download a 100mb file over HTTP and a 100mb interface: 20 > > seconds. > > Ti

RE: Broadband Subscriber Management

2009-04-24 Thread Frank Bulk
So what were you doing than, RFC 1483? Frank -Original Message- From: Curtis Maurand [mailto:cmaur...@xyonet.com] Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 7:16 AM To: Frank Bulk Cc: 'William McCall'; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Broadband Subscriber Management Way back when Verizon first started r

Re: Config Backup / Inventory

2009-04-24 Thread Jon Wolberg
Check out HyperConf http://www.winagents.com/en/products/hyperconf/ It does multi-vendor device backups as well as a scripting function to blow out mass changes to devices. They are also pretty easy to work with to enable new devices if you want them. The licensing is somewhat reasonable.

Re: Problems reaching tools.ietf.org?

2009-04-24 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Jack Bates wrote: Finally hit the office and called someone at random. They are looking into it. I can reach www.ietf.org just fine which is in the same network, so this appears to be host specific. Be funny if the MAC address changed and SLAAC mismatched th

Re: Problems reaching tools.ietf.org?

2009-04-24 Thread Jack Bates
Finally hit the office and called someone at random. They are looking into it. I can reach www.ietf.org just fine which is in the same network, so this appears to be host specific. Be funny if the MAC address changed and SLAAC mismatched the host from the ; an annoying problem seen occasion

Re: Config Backup / Inventory

2009-04-24 Thread Joe Provo
On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 09:25:05AM +0100, Joshua Eyres wrote: [snip] > I am looking for a bit of advice around configuration backup / inventory. We > currently have a large multi-vendor network which is currently managed > through two separate tools (rancid - http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid and ns4

Re: Problems reaching tools.ietf.org?

2009-04-24 Thread Nathan Ward
On 25/04/2009, at 12:45 AM, Jack Bates wrote: Anyone seeing issues with reachability for tools.ietf.org in IPv6? v4 works fine for me, but oh, the timeouts. :( Tracing the route to tools.ietf.org (2001:1890:1112:1:214:22FF:FE1F: 1E54) 1 bnet6-2.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:1F03

Re: NAT64/NAT-PT update in IETF, was: Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests [re"impacting revenue"]

2009-04-24 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 23, 2009, at 11:31 AM, Manish Karir wrote: Would there be interest in trying to organize a day long mini-nanog with the ietf in March 2010? The regular nanog mtg is scheduled for Feb 22 2010 so this would have to be an extra meeting. and would require all sorts of help and interest fro

Problems reaching tools.ietf.org?

2009-04-24 Thread Jack Bates
Anyone seeing issues with reachability for tools.ietf.org in IPv6? v4 works fine for me, but oh, the timeouts. :( Tracing the route to tools.ietf.org (2001:1890:1112:1:214:22FF:FE1F:1E54) 1 bnet6-2.tunnel.tserv2.fmt.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:1F03:1031::1) 64 msec 64 msec 64 msec 2 1g-3-9.core1

Re: Broadband Subscriber Management

2009-04-24 Thread Curtis Maurand
Way back when Verizon first started rolling out DSL, we at a small ISP looked to wholesale ports from them via a deal they were offering. The were simply delivering PVC's to us via ATM on a DS3. 1 for each customer. They were doing the rate limiting based on what we ordered. I was able to

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests [re "impacting revenue"]

2009-04-24 Thread Michael Dillon
> Actually, being a CTO of a company, I know that my CEO signs things ALL the > time based just on my say so. I don't see how signing a document for ARIN > would land them in court, further if he were to go to court, he'd simply say > that he relied on the opinions of his technical staff since he d

The Cidr Report

2009-04-24 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Apr 24 21:13:59 2009 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

BGP Update Report

2009-04-24 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 23-Mar-09 -to- 23-Apr-09 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS6389 347165 4.2% 79.4 -- BELLSOUTH-NET-BLK - BellSouth.net Inc. 2 - AS2386

Re: Config Backup / Inventory

2009-04-24 Thread Warren Kumari
On Apr 24, 2009, at 4:25 AM, Joshua Eyres wrote: Hi, I am looking for a bit of advice around configuration backup / inventory. We currently have a large multi-vendor network which is currently managed through two separate tools (rancid - http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid and ns4 - http://ww

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-24 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 10:57:31AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2009 at 08:24:38PM -0400, Ricky Beam wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:40:30 -0400, Chris Adams wrote: >>> SSL and FTP are techincal justifications for an IP per site. >> No they aren't. SSL will work just fine as

Re: Config Backup / Inventory

2009-04-24 Thread Alex Nderitu
Kiwi CatTools does a good job but I don't know how diverse you multi-vendor environment is. Check here for supported devices. Orion NCM is also another product you may want to look at . -Original Message- Fr

Re: IXP

2009-04-24 Thread Leigh Porter
But routers dont have bo.:) --- original message --- From: "Brandon Butterworth" Subject: Re: IXP Date: 24th April 2009 Time: 8:16:00 am > It's the technological equvilient of bringing everyone into a > conference room and then having them use their cell phones to call > each other and talk acro

Config Backup / Inventory

2009-04-24 Thread Joshua Eyres
Hi, I am looking for a bit of advice around configuration backup / inventory. We currently have a large multi-vendor network which is currently managed through two separate tools (rancid - http://www.shrubbery.net/rancid and ns4 - http://www.noodles.org.uk/ns4.html). Both tools do the job very wel

Re: IXP

2009-04-24 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> It's the technological equvilient of bringing everyone into a > conference room and then having them use their cell phones to call > each other and talk across the table. Why are you all in the same > room if you don't want a shared medium? Probably the wrong people to ask (cf. IRC @ NANOG meet

Re: Important New Requirement for IPv4 Requests

2009-04-24 Thread Perry Lorier
Large data sets? So you are saying that 512-byte packets with no windowing work better? Bill, have you measured this? Time to download a 100mb file over HTTP and a 100mb interface: 20 seconds. Time to download a 100mb file over FTP and a 100mb interface: ~7 minutes. And yes, that was F

Re: IXP

2009-04-24 Thread Mike Leber
Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 01:48:28AM +, Paul Vixie wrote: i think i saw several folks, not just stephen, say virtual wire was how they'd do an IXP today if they had to start from scratch. i know that for many here, starting from scratch isn't a reacha