Re: Great outage of 1997 - Does anyone recall?

On Feb 22, 2009, at 10:10 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Paul Wall wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: What was that story with an African routes some years back, any memories anyone? I am looking for a reference. 146.20.0.0/16?

Re: Great outage of 1997 - Does anyone recall?

On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Paul Wall wrote: > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: >> What was that story with an African routes some years back, any memories >> anyone? I am looking for a reference. > > 146.20.0.0/16? that's erie forge/steal... I think maybe Gadi's referrin

Re: Great outage of 1997 - Does anyone recall?

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 2:57 AM, Gadi Evron wrote: > What was that story with an African routes some years back, any memories > anyone? I am looking for a reference. 146.20.0.0/16? Paul

Global Crossing announcing prefixes they do not own

Can someone from Global Crossing that actually reads and responds to email (as opposed to their NOC and contacts listed in their ASN object) and care that they are announcing prefixes that are not theirs - please contact me off-list... Best regards, - kurtis - PGP.sig Description: T

Re: Comprehensive community Guideline and Policies for an AS

> nLayer's does look fairly comprehensive. > > A few nitpick that lead me to hesitate to adopt it. > > The informational tags comprised of > > 4436:TCRPP > > T The type of relationship that the route was learned through > C The continent where the route was learned > R The region where th

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 18:31, John Martinez wrote: > So the most constructive answer that I received related to this thread > is that someone is using Comcast Ethernet services for $5.25/MB for a > 500MB pipe. > I wonder how much 10MB synchronous would cost? From: http://business.comcast.com/lar

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

So the most constructive answer that I received related to this thread is that someone is using Comcast Ethernet services for $5.25/MB for a 500MB pipe. I wonder how much 10MB synchronous would cost? JC Dill wrote: > Jim Popovitch wrote: >> But that doesn't really equate to network traffic (IMHO

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

Jim Popovitch wrote: But that doesn't really equate to network traffic (IMHO). No, it doesn't. I didn't make the analogy to airlines, I responded to the analogy made by someone else. If your upstream has an outage, it is more akin to a delayed departure rather than an airline bump or flig

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 16:37, JC Dill wrote: > When you have a confirmed reservation, airlines in the US and EU are > required to pay "delayed boarding compensation" when you are involuntarily > bumped, unless the reason is something completely outside their control > (such as the weather or when

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

Paul Stewart wrote: *Some* airlines pay penalties - not all. When you have a confirmed reservation, airlines in the US and EU are required to pay "delayed boarding compensation" when you are involuntarily bumped, unless the reason is something completely outside their control (such as the w

Re: Comprehensive community Guideline and Policies for an AS

Kevin Blackham wrote: See nLayer. That should be the gold standard. :) A gold standard is precisely what I am looking for. http://onesc.net/communities/as4436/ nLayer's does look fairly comprehensive. A few nitpick that lead me to hesitate to adopt it. " The informational tags comprised

RE: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

*Some* airlines pay penalties - not all. I was in Florida on business last summer and when I went to do "web checkin" I was told "call this number 1-800xx". When I did, they apologized and said they couldn't get me out of Florida for 2 additional days. Quite upset, I wanted to know what they

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

Notice you said voucher and not cash, which I'd consider the same as a network provider providing a credit and not cash. -brandon On 2/22/09, JC Dill wrote: > Jim Popovitch wrote: >> On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 13:26, JC Dill wrote: >> >>> Many businesses could make out like a bandit if they don't

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

Jim Popovitch wrote: On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 13:26, JC Dill wrote: Many businesses could make out like a bandit if they don't have to pay a penalty when they don't perform, but just give you your money back. I'm curious, when traveling by car or by plane, do you often demand impositio

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 13:26, JC Dill wrote: > Many businesses could make out like a bandit if they don't have to > pay a penalty when they don't perform, but just give you your money back. I'm curious, when traveling by car or by plane, do you often demand imposition of penalties for travel lat

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

Just because no network provider today offers to do better than refund your money doesn't mean this is all they "can" do. Perhaps someday one of the networks will be confident enough about their services to offer a better SLA that includes paying a penalty when they fail to deliver what they p

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

Very true. You'll be hard pressed to find an IP/transit/dark fiber provider who is going to agree to be liable for anything except what you've paid in the event of an SLA violation. -brandon On 2/22/09, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:26 PM, JC Dill wrote: >> Seth Mattinen wrot

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:26 PM, JC Dill wrote: Seth Mattinen wrote: If I give someone money to do something, and they fail to meet the contracted metrics, what else can they give me except money back? They can pay a penalty. Simply giving you your money back may not make you whole. Many bu

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

Seth Mattinen wrote: Paul M. Moriarty wrote: Oh, and you might want to read those SLA's you get from AT&T or any other carrier. Typically, all they give you for not meeting the SLA is "credits" and you typically have to ask for them, in writing within 30 days to actually get them. If

Re: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service!

Paul M. Moriarty wrote: > > Oh, and you might want to read those SLA's you get from AT&T or any > other carrier. Typically, all they give you for not meeting the SLA is > "credits" and you typically have to ask for them, in writing within 30 > days to actually get them. > If I give someone mone

RE: Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re:comcast price check)]

Back on the original topic of Comcast fiber. It is sold by region, shoot me an off-list email and I can put you in touch with someone at national who can at least point you in the correct direction.I must say that it appears their metroE services take a back seat to the coax services and th

Comcast - No complaints! [was: Re: Craptastic Service! (was: Re: comcast price check)]

I've been using their biz offering for the past 18 months and have had a very good experience, including same day fixes all three times I reported problems (no truck dispatch required). For $105/month I get excellent speed and routable IP's. A good deal from my perspective. Oh, and you mi

Fwd: Security Assessment of the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP)

Completing various circles... Marshall Begin forwarded message: From: Fernando Gont Date: February 21, 2009 6:47:16 PM EST To: i...@ietf.org Subject: Security Assessment of the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hello, folks, I have just

Re: real hardware router VS linux router

On 22/02/2009, at 8:27 AM, Leen Besselink wrote: If you had to choose, it's probably smarted to go with OpenBSD, it has a lot better integration of packet filter, bgpd-daemon, ospf, vrrp- like, etc. If you have one eBGP session in your whole network, sure. However if you have more than one,

Re: Great outage of 1997 - Does anyone recall?

What was that story with an African routes some years back, any memories anyone? I am looking for a reference. On Sun, 22 Feb 2009, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Feb 22, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Randy Bush wrote: Does anyone have the full story on this?