RE: long distance gigabit ethernet

> Forget it with today's technology. All long haul systems use SONET > framing. But with the 10Gbe standard WAN PHY you can directly connect > into a SONET transponder and your ethernet will be carried transparently. The Sycamore systems does GigE long haul. Best regards, - kurtis -

Re: Effective ways to deal with DDoS attacks?

> What processes and/or tools are large networks using to > identify and limit the impact of DDoS attacks? What we are using is matching of a specific community on all of our edge routers. A route matching this specific community will be blackholed on the edge. All that is then needed is by

NordNog meeting 13-14 May 2002

(Appologies if considered off-topic) Registration is now open for the first Nordic Operator Forum meeting in Stockholm, 13-14th of May 2002 at the Roayal Institute of Technology. The event will be free of charge. Please visit http://www.nordnog.org for information on registering and the agen

RE: Bogon list

>> Then we come to the extra bogons like exchange point allocations. Can't >> forget them. :) > > I've never heard anyone refer to the IXP allocations as "bogons." Plus, > I've not heard of anyone filtering the IXP prefixes on their ingress > peering filters. Egress peering filters - yes. At s

Re: Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.

> . They have an AS of their own, which is free to > peer with, in which a number of crucial services are located, for ...as long as you provide transit for free. Which I don't see why you wouldn't. Even Tier-1 providers (and ex- such..:) ) do this. Best regards, - ku

Re: Updates to the root zone Re: KPNQwest ns.eu.net server.

> This is not a political question, only operational process. > > Has ICANN and NTIA worked out their operational issues so they can quickly > change the root zone to reflect changes in ccTLD nameservers if people > need to change which name servers are handling the ccTLDs. Last year, > some o

Error in assignments....?

Uhm, from whois.ra.net : route: 209.81.0.0/19 descr: ViaNet Communications 1235 Pear Ave, Suite 107 Mountain View, CA 94043 origin:AS7091 notify:[EMAIL PROTECTED] notify:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mnt-by:HE-NOC changed:

RE: Error in assignments....?

> RADB are a routing registry not an address space registry. Consult > ARIN, APNIC, RIPE, etc for IP space ownership details. Any RADB > member can register pretty much any route/AS pair and many members > don't bother to put real details when it comes to owner of the route, > etc (putting th

Re: Error in assignments....?

> A route is something different then an IP assignment/allocation. There can > be multipe routes and multiple originating AS's for a netblock. The > netblock you are referring to is not globally visible btw. Ok, my fault. I ment to say route object. However, I fail to see why (if) you would

Re: Error in assignments....?

...exactly. So, again, I can't see a valid reason for a single route to originate from two different AS:es. Unless for transition purposes as was mentioned. - kurtis - --On Tuesday, June 11, 2002 9:58 PM +0100 "Stephen J. Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm not familiar with all th

Re: KPNQWEST cease operation?

> I heard that NOC of KPQWEST in Frankfurt would cease operation at 1400 > hour (local time) today. > There has never been a KQ NOC in Frankfurt. - kurtis -

Re: Re[2]: KPNQWEST cease operation?

> I am sorry, their NOC is located in Belgium. Well, there is operational staff all across Europe. If that is enough to keep the network up - I don't know. There are other issue playing in as well on what can be kept up. Notice that the message sent out is that the volunteer NOC will shutd

Re: Readiness for IPV6

> The Cisco GSR (12,0xx) just got native support for IPv6 (12.0.21ST1) > and its being rolled out across Abilene (Internet2). I'm at one of Uhm, I was under the impression that IOS support had been there for a while GSRs only could do IPv6 processor switched ,and only 124xx could do it on th

Re: multicast (was Re: Readiness for IPV6)

--On Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:16:38 -0700 David Meyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given the amount of time and resource we've spent on multicast, > the question one might ask is "why hasn't multicast succeeded"? > My guess is that it is because the demand from any of the > potential users o

Re: All-optical networking Was: [Re: Notes on the Internet for BellHeads]

>> Add in the fact that optical sniffing, while not impossible by any means >> today, will increasingly become non-trivial as bandwidth increases. Which >> is exactly one of the 'problems' they expect optical network to solve. > > You mean just expensive, right? i.e. a couple transponders and an

Re: QoS/CoS in the real world?

> A number of people think QoS was interesting for a while but that its > never either found its true use or is dead. > > There are unresolved questions from a customer point of view as to what > they are actually going to get, what difference it will make and how they > can measure their perfor

Re: verio arrogance

> That said, their current policy of refusing to accept de-aggregated > prefixes from peers (while accepting such from paying customers) makes > perfect sense, IMHO. Not arrogant, just a smart & reasonable business > decision. You could turn this around and ask what reasons there are to not

Re: Multi-collector Netflow/etc

> Any other methods that are working for scaling multiple > collectors without exceeding router limitations or burdening > routers unnecessarily? I know that we at some point had several machines in the network gathering the data as the volumes simply became to much to process at one single

Re: Multi-collector Netflow/etc

>> data and this was then fed to the main processing server. However, in >> general I think it's pretty hard to make Netflow data scale...ideally you >> would be able to pick which fields you wanted exported... > > The NetFlow v9 format looks like it would support this kind of thing. > Whether ci

RE: verio arrogance

> table. Why should we shoot for a 100,000 route table instead of 500,000 > if it does not impact performance? Convergence time? - kurtis -

Re: does KPNQwest really start to shut down?

--On Friday, July 19, 2002 10:33:22 +0100 "Stephen J. Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They keep saying this but never on the homepage.. maybe this is finally > it! > > We still have a full table from them so we'll see it die later on. (10pm > local time) I think you need to distinguis

RE: AS286 effectively no more..

> What is the legal position of an IRU deal if the cable owner goes belly > up? Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on - they are worthless. - kurtis -

Re: AS286 effectively no more..

> Does anyone know what happened to the Ebone/KPNQWEST European-wide DWDM > system? I figure that if it was shut down, we would see more impact. It's beeing sold off in pices. > Their IP network load I bet was quite easily handled by other operators > considering the huge over-capacity situat

RE: AS286 effectively no more..

>> Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on - >> they are worthless. > > You can make fiber IRUs stick even if the company who bought the fiber > goes belly up. Yes, but this is the other way around. If the company you bought the IRU from goes belly up, there is no g

RE: AS286 effectively no more..

--On Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:23:38 +0300 Huopio Kauto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>> What is the legal position of an IRU deal if the cable owner goes belly >>> up? > >> Unless someone buys the equipment and agrees to theke the IRU:s on - >> they are worthless. > > How about duct IRU:

Re: AS286 effectively no more..

>> Uhm, how many pan-European _fiber_ owners is there? Not that many. Most >> of that over capacity was bought from KQ in Europe... > > COLT, Telia, Dynergy, BT Ignite [I think], Level 3, LDcom, others. > KQ was excellent at marketing themselves as the only company who > had pan-European fibre

RE: QoS/CoS in the real world?

Appart from that this to me looks like a marketing post > Sorry I didn't see this note earlier, but wanted to make you aware that > Masergy Communications is actually offering such a service on a native > MPLS based IP network. We provide differentiated IP services via "native MPLS based

Re: AS286 effectively no more..

> Yes one of the myths that I used to hear was that COLTs european > network relied upon KQ, which it didn't. The other issue is local network As ex-KQ I agree with you. But there where plenty of others. > access of course, its fine having these huge fibre networks that > are point to point, b

RE: Any people still with old filters?

> No. > If they did, 80% of the internet would not be visible to them today., sure. and pigs fly. I don't think that anyone have ever filtered on old class-based sizes. What I know is that the most restrictive filters have been on RIR allocations boundaries, and for old "non-returned" A:s a

RE: Any people still with old filters?

>> ...and the clue-less on the Internet is (still) less than 80%. It's more >> like 20%. See http://mcvax.org/~jhma/routing for one example of how much >> we could gain if we actually aggregated... > > This was hinted at in the peering debate, but wouldn't it help the cause > of aggregation if

Re: OC-768 availability?

--On Monday, July 29, 2002 21:32:02 -0400 blitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Seriously, I don't see OC768 coming online en masse until they get the > kinks worked out of optical switching. The transit times are so short > thru the innards, in the order of picoseconds, that electronics is way >

Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security)

On 24 nov 2005, at 03.54, George Michaelson wrote: If you want to see member-certificates which gate access to RIR/NIR specific services common across all registries, I think you want to get that onto an RIR meeting agenda Randy. We currently have no cross-certification activity in member

Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security)

On 25 nov 2005, at 02.07, Sean Donelan wrote: Although techincal folks may think its just about math, unfortunately some people think certificates and signatures mean more than just mathmatical formulas. I'm a bit confused why people think network service providers will be willing to "ce

IETF Administrative Director Job Announcement

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) is responsible for developing and defining the standards and protocols that make up the Internet. The IETF was established in 1986, and has since then been the center of development for the technolog

Re: Heads up: Long AS-sets announced in the next few days

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-02, at 19.38, James A. T. Rice wrote: > This seems to suggest that you are just picking ASns at random to > inject into the paths, and that you don't have a set of ASs which you > have the assignees permission to use. Would't this then

Re: Heads up: Long AS-sets announced in the next few days

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2005-03-03, at 10.27, Geoff Huston wrote: > >> On 2005-03-02, at 19.38, James A. T. Rice wrote: >> >> > This seems to suggest that you are just picking ASns at random to >> > inject into the paths, and that you don't have a set of ASs which >> y

Re: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection

On fredag, sep 6, 2002, at 21:57 Europe/Stockholm, Tim Thorne wrote: > OK, what if 60 Hudson, 25 Broadway, LinX and AmsIX were all put out of > commission? To some extent - nothing for the above...if design right. The major networks should have designed their networks to route around this. If

Re: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection

> > William said they changed a lot of the way they do things at the > company > that hosts CNN.com since 9/11. I don't believe they were the only ones. > > Which was my point to start with... - kurtis -

Re: Vulnerbilities of Interconnection

On måndag, sep 16, 2002, at 18:02 Europe/Stockholm, JC Dill wrote: > When I got back to the office, I learned that the big screen TV that > had previously been located in the exercise room had been moved to the > center of the office so that everyone could more easily see it, and > everyone

Re: Cogent service

> Really? Then I guess Juniper made a mistake chopping every packet > into 64 byte packets ;-) . From a hardware standpoint, it speeds up > the process significantly. Think of a factory with a cleaver machine, > it knows exactly where to chop the pieces because there is a rhythm. > It ta

Re: Wireless insecurity at NANOG meetings

> > PPS. I'm really really amazed at how people can consider any opaque > system > truthworthy. Most computer users naively trust their secrets to > effectively every one of thousands of Microsoft engineers who can > easily plant trapdoors. The same goes for trusting Intel. How >

Re: i think terroists are going to love ipv6

Not commenting on some of the fantasies in the article From what I remember China is pretty is active in IPv6 and from the APNIC presentations they also have a allocation. Not sure how come to the conclusions you do - kurtis - On onsdag, sep 25, 2002, at 11:55 Europe/Stockholm, Joe

Re: [Re: the cost of carrying routes]

egal requirements to "the bottom line". If a site is paying you for transit, there's a very strong *dis*incentive to take any action that would prevent a DDoS attack - the bottom line says the Right Thing is to install just enough traffic shaping so a DDoS won't melt *your* net, and bill for

Call for papers - Second Nordnog

(Apologies for eventual off-topic posting) The second Nordic Operator Conference, Nordnog-2, will be held 12-13/2 2003 at the Quality Globe Hotel in Stockholm, Sweden. For information on the hotel, please see http://www.globehotel.se/default_1.html. If you have something you want to present

Re: Call for papers - Second Nordnog

This was the call for papers - kurtis - On måndag, nov 11, 2002, at 16:10 Europe/Stockholm, Rasmus Aveskogh wrote: Unfortunately there's a 404 on http://www.nordnog.org/nordnog2/agenda.html -ra - Original Message - From: Kurt Erik Lindqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> D

Re: Next NANOG meeting/stats

The next NANOG meeting will be held February 9-11, 2003, in Arizona, where it will be warm and sunny. Is this date absolutely set in stone? First Halloween, now Valentine's Day. and it butts right against nordnog, essentially preventing attendance at both. As Nordnog organizer I agree. -

Re: Next NANOG meeting/stats

None of the below events are related to network operations. Nordnog is. If these are the dates that Nanog goes for, I assume that Nordnog will have to reschedule. Nanog is large enough to attract people from all over the world and the scheduling of Nanog influences a lot of peoples agendas.

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

for Spain only. And some more newsit is not possible within the Schengen area to extradite one citizen from one member state to another. If one commits a crime, one is prosecuted and jailed in the country where the crime took place. Even more news.criminal law Simply not true. See

Re: Next NANOG meeting/stats

and it butts right against nordnog, essentially preventing attendance at both. As Nordnog organizer I agree. And the new date for nordnog is? Wellwe need to discuss this with the people organizing - kurtis -

Re: Blocking specific sites within certain countries.

Simply not true. See the kidnap case that was solved with cooperation between the Swedish and French police. The kidnapers in France was extradited to Sweden although they where arrested in France because they received the ransom there. Where was the crime commited though? If the kidnapping was

Re: Simulated disaster exercise? Re: PAIX

In the 1990's the MAEs and Gigaswitches would give us an unscheduled failure of a major exchange point on a regular basis, which let us demostrate our disaster recovery capabilities. With the improved reliability, i.e. the PAIXes haven't had a catastrophic failure, we haven't had as many opportu

Re: Bin Laden Associate Warns of Cyberattack

9/11 showed us that, despite the relatively concentrated POPs in NYC, the Internet was still the only communications medium that survived the attack --and it was largely unaffected, even for users located in NYC itself! Does of us who where providing emergency transit to providers that where c

Re: Cyberattack FUD

Kurt> I am not sure what you mean with 25% of the Internet? What Kurt> connectivity would degrade? From where to where? If you randomly select nodes to remove, by the time you have removed 25% of them, the network breaks up into many isolated islands. As Sean Well, depending on top

Re: Arin Smack down?

tried the link and entered my PacBell home DSL static IP address and was shocked to see my private name come up behind CustName field! > Wrong Address though. I am shocked to see that there is a LIR that actually registers what they are supposed to (at least according to the RIPE region). Ma

Change of dates for Nordnog-2

Due to announcement of the NANOG dates that collides with NordNOG, NordNOG will change the dates. NordNOG-2 will be held at 13-14 February 2002. The change of dates also means that we will change the venue. The venue for the conference will be : Marievik Konferens Årstaängsvägen 1 B Inform

Re: US-Asia Peering Research Request

I remember back at APRICOT in 1999 that some folks (Dave Rand and colleagues maybe?) were talking about an initiative to provide an AP Peering Ring... Just out of curiosity on this topic. Is there anyone who ever managed to get a distributed peering point to work? If I remember history some

Re: NYT on Thing.net

Uhm. If an ISP has a policy catch-all clause of "We can disconnect customers at will, without reason" then you get what you deserve, responsibility for your actions. After a few big money costing lawsuits over this, I hope ISP's will return to their common-carrier status. I have no hopes that th

Re: US-Asia Peering

Bill, On lördag, jan 11, 2003, at 01:38 Europe/Stockholm, William B. Norton wrote: If what you are saying is true, I'd really like to hear just a couple of insurmountable technical problems with WAN L2.5 infrastructure interconnecting IX switches. For the sake of argument and to clarify

Re: NYT on Thing.net

This has been a discussion item in the Swedish ISP business for quite some time (for a reason). The matter is actually a lot more complex than what you say above. How ironic, would that be because of Flashback magazine? :) To some extent, but not recently. Mostly due to child-porn, TV deco

Re: NYT on Thing.net

Just for the record, your story above is far from complete and not true on all accounts. It is also a quite simplified version of what happened. Perhaps Zenon (Whom I cc:ed just because he knows the details) can shed some more light on this. Well, I was (still is) a member of the Swedish Oper

Re: US-Asia Peering

How do you see the failed AMS-IX expansion fit into this? My (very simplified) summary of what happened was that : ... At the time of the origin of the discussion I was peering co-ordinator at KPNQwest, and would have pulled-out of AMS-IX if the plans (and KQ..:) ) would have moved on. well o

Re: NYT on Thing.net

(I think I am close to get a notice from Susan so this will be my last posting on this to Nanog) The upstream (Air2net?) basically shrugged their shoulders. Fries went to the upstream's upstream while at the same time he mounted Air2net was a transit customer of KPNQwest (and not a resell

Nordnog-2 Agenda items

The agenda items for Nordnog-2 is starting to be posted on http://www.nordnog.org/nordnog2/agenda.html as the speakers final confirmation comes in. To register, please fill the form at http://www.nordnog.org/nordnog2 and mail it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, - kurtis -

Re: Scaled Back Cybersecuruty

- Starting at the core, which is who the Feds buy the most IP from, still makes life a lot simpler if and when we get the "big one" in terms of cyber-attack. Is not the problem with this that few if any attacks originate in the core, and by the time the traffics start getting aggregated t

Re: Scaled Back Cybersecurity

- Starting at the core, which is who the Feds buy the most IP from, still makes life a lot simpler if and when we get the "big one" in terms of cyber-attack. Is not the problem with this that few if any attacks originate in the core, and by the time the traffics start getting aggregated the

Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

Having researched this in-depth after reading a rather cursory article on the topic (http://grc.com/dos/drdos.htm), only two main methods come to my mind to protect against it. There are a few more methods, some have already mentioned including something called pushback. Very few solutions, pa

Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

Without getting too much into the likelihood of any legal body actually understanding anyone's role in an attack besides the attacker and the victim, in this land where tobacco companies are sued by smokers who get lung cancer and fast food restaurants are sued by fat people there must be room fo

Re: mSQL Attack/Peering/OBGP/Optical exchange

I have received information on router utilizations, some routers it seems may have held up better then others. That information is useful. But I am working on some optical exchange point/optical metro designs and this might have a dramatic impact if one considers things like OBGP, Uni 1.0,

Re: mSQL Attack/Peering/OBGP/Optical exchange

Actually, I think that was the point of the dynamic provisioning ability. The UNI 1.0 protocol or the previous ODSI, were to allow the routers to provision their own capacity. The tests in the real world done actually worked although I still believe they are under NDA. The point was to prov

Re: VoIP QOS best practices

The issue is when traffic crosses ISP boundaries, because many times these links are clogged. It used to be you had to stay away from MAEWEST and such because of big packet drops and delays (big no-no's for voice). Things are getting better in this regard because of a larger number of cross con

Re: VoIP over IPsec

through the corporate enterprise net, Cisco routers with IPSEC/GRE tunnels over the public Internet. Maybe a stupid question... why would you need GRE tunneling while IPsec has a tunnel mode of its own? For running routing over the tunnels for example... - kurtis -

Re: how to get people to upgrade? (Re: The weak link? DNS)

so here's a proposal. we (speaking for ISC here) could add a config option (default to OFF) to make bind send some kind of registration packet at boot time, containing an e-mail address for a technical contact for that server, and perhaps its hostname as well. the destination would be config

Re: Cisco HFR

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> In the old days, every major provider would already be talking about >> how >> they have ordered 200 of these for every major market for redundant >> deployment -- and are just waiting on Cisco to deliver them the gear. >> > > Personally, I'm at l

Announcement of third NordNOG and call for papers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The third Nordic Operator Forum will be held in Helsinki on 9-10 September 2004. Sponsor will be Song Networks, and the conference be held at their facilities at Song Networks Mechelinkatu 1a 00018 Helsinki With this email we invite intere

Re: concern over public peering points [WAS: Peering point speed publicly available?]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-07-03, at 18.10, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > It's when the exchange is being run by a separate entity that needs a > marketing department, a well-paid staff of managers, technicians etc > that > price really goes up. All this to basically m

Re: More on Sri Lanka fiber outage....

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-08-24, at 12.58, Bruce Campbell wrote: > On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Tony Li wrote: > >> Did they arrest the crew? They have grounds on negligence >> charges... > > The crew of the ship for having dropped anchor presumably in defiance > of > 'Und

Re: optics pricing (Re: Weird GigE Media Converter Behavior)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-08-29, at 15.58, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > > If you find the prices staggering, it's likely that you and your > organization don't need this product. Arguments about price gouging > on memory, GBICs, power cords, and other commodity items

Re: Any Kine NOGs? Re: European Nanog?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-09-14, at 16.36, Scott Weeks wrote: > I briefly looked and NordNOG wasn't an english speaking list. (no > surprise there... :) I only read in english, thus my request for > english > language NOG lists. Did I miss that and are the others

Re: Email Complexes

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-09-15, at 00.48, Joe Abley wrote: > On 14 Sep 2004, at 17:39, Hosman, Ross wrote: > >> Ensuring that email flows freely between our mail complex and other >> top mail >> provider complexes is a support issue correct. Actually setting up the

Re: APNIC Privacy of customer assignment records - implementation update

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-09-24, at 00.18, Joe Abley wrote: > On 23 Sep 2004, at 18:06, Matt Ghali wrote: > >> Effectively none. >> APNIC has always served out unverified and obvious garbage from their >> whois servers. > > And they are different from every other RIR

Re: anycast roots

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-11-12, at 02.53, Randy Bush wrote: > > which roots are anycast? c f i j k? b m - - kurtis - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.1 iQA/AwUBQZQYaqarNKXTPFCVEQJcDACeMo3bNr6oOIRx69IvmCdMv/Xe3l0AnA4d QdMSlL6vKhLe3xqRKkAf3LfV =LN6i -

Re: anycast roots

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-11-12, at 03.03, Randy Bush wrote: >>> which roots are anycast? c f i j k? >> b m > > thanks. > > which are widely anycast, i.e. at more than three or four > locations OR on three or more continents? I think that http://root-servers.org is

Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-11-14, at 18.10, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > > On 13-nov-04, at 18:11, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > >> 30% usage and we need 32 bit ASNs? > > Usage is of course irrelevant, what counts is how many free ones are > left. This number is well bel

Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-11-16, at 02.24, Owen DeLong wrote: > ASNs issued today are subject to annual renewal. While this is a > small charge and doesn't go up based on the number of ASNs, so, not > 100% effective at reclaiming all unused resources, it does, at le

Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-11-16, at 08.28, Jeroen Massar wrote: > I have seen IPv6 prefixes, that were allocated and then returned, being > allocated to another organization with somewhat a period of 6 months in > between. Good! > Thus one can assume that ASN will b

Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-11-19, at 12.46, Jeroen Massar wrote: > On Fri, 2004-11-19 at 12:15 +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: >> On 18-nov-04, at 18:02, Jeroen Massar wrote: >> >>> Larger enterprises probably consist of 200 'sites' already, eg >>> seperate >>> of

Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (catching up) On 2004-11-22, at 18.52, Paul Vixie wrote: > >>> none of those three things is acceptable, not even as a compromise. >> >> The current solution I see for this is still IPv6. Except that one >> moves >> the complete 'Independence' pro

Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-11-22, at 19.29, william(at)elan.net wrote: > What is bad however is that IETF instead of pursuing it as >one effort has several of them including MULTI6, HIP, etc. I don't see this as really true. MUTLI& is tasked with solving the pr

Re: who gets a /32 [Re: IPV6 renumbering painless?]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul, On 2004-11-28, at 17.47, Paul Vixie wrote: > >> (catching up) > > (you missed some stuff.) Yes, I have had lot's of fun reading through almost a week of Nanog... > the property of a6/dname that wasn't widely understood was its > i

Re: AS number consolidation

Does anyone know of case studies of companies collapsing multiple ASes into one on their network? I have the Allegiance Telecom presentation from NANOG 27 but I would like to hear how other people have done it as well. We where a number of people (most mote involve than I was) who did the 286 a

Re: NTp sources that work in a datacenter (was Re: Is latency equivalent

(replying to Peter on NTP have always struck me as a bad idea ;-) ) Time2.Stupi.SE and Time4.Stupi.SE are both stratum-1 accessable through the Internet, tracable to UTC-SP (part of TAI) without use of GPS or slaving to CDMA (that slaves to GPS). ...but other free NTP servers are : ntp1.s

Re: 24-port Gigabit + two 10Gb uplinks

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On fredag, nov 7, 2003, at 00:21 Europe/Stockholm, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > > I am actually worried about the price point of highspeed datacom in the > next few years, after the inflated marget in 2001 where everybody > built, > prices have dro

Re: TAT 14 failure

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On onsdag, nov 26, 2003, at 07:44 Europe/Stockholm, Simon Lockhart wrote: > > On Tue Nov 25, 2003 at 08:32:50PM -0500, David Lesher wrote: >> Is there not sizeable UK<->FR capacity through the Chunnel? > > Yes, I believe there's a sizable amount of

Re: What's the best way to wiretap a network?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-01-20, at 22.19, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, William Allen Simpson > writes: >> >> Eriks Rugelis wrote: >>> >>> On the other hand, if your environment consists of a large number >>> (100's) of >>> potentia

Re: What's the best way to wiretap a network?

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 (Although I now what the NA...stands for I have to ask) >> From the initial discussions in Sweden around the new electronic >> communications act, it seems as if the operators are obliged to >> provide >> tapping free of charge. If this turns out t

Re: Massive stupidity (Was: Re: TCP vulnerability)

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-04-20, at 23.09, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > but the massive amount of confusion, > rumor, and worry which the major router vendors (Cisco and Juniper) > created by essentially rediscovering the god damn spec and then telling > only thei

Re: Lazy network operators

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-04-18, at 04.48, Paul Jakma wrote: > Well, let's be honest, name one good reason why you'd want IPv6 > (given you have 4)? That's quite an assumption there. - - kurtis - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 8.0.3 iQA/AwUBQIJbC6arNK

Re: Lazy network operators

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 2004-04-18, at 01.10, Paul Jakma wrote: > Hmmm, or rather, there just wont be any demand for IPv6 deployment, > at least from the edges (consumers, small/medium networks). Why > bother changing if, despite the (almost indefinitely) availability o

Re: why use IPv6, was: Lazy network operators

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As co-chair of the multi6 WG : On 2004-04-19, at 02.29, william(at)elan.net wrote: > Perhaps ipv6 has some dark spots that may have made upgrading not > attractive > at this time, but stopping work on it and continuing ipv4 for next 100 > years >

Re: why use IPv6, was: Lazy network operators

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> Perhaps ipv6 has some dark spots that may have made upgrading not >> attractive >> at this time, but stopping work on it and continuing ipv4 for next 100 >> years >> is not an option in my view - we just need to put more effort on >> things >> lik

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