On 15Feb2021 05:56, Angel M Alganza wrote:
>On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 03:40:16PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>>Aye. I use format=flowed all the time; there's stuff in the wiki about
>>settings to go with it, for example to make composition easy.
>
>I see. :-) Oddly enough, your quotations appear
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 07:10:08PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
Hmm. Beginning to think this is presentation. What are your mutt flow
settings? I've got this:
set reflow_text=yes
set reflow_wrap=-4
set text_flowed=yes
set text_flowed=yes # Added by ama @ 2019/02/03
Hello:
I am trying to build a macro to apply a function to the current maildir,
but I can't find the way to capture the current maildir into a variable.
The idea is as follows: I synch my mail with mbsync, which I run from a
crontab entry at different time intervals for different mail folders
Currently I automatically add all mailing lists I am subscribed to
into my muttrc file against both 'lists' and 'subscribe', is this
correct/OK?
I've never been quite clear why there are two commands.
I have in my muttrc :-
#
#
# Mailing lists
#
lists `~/.mutt/bin/getLists.py
12021/01/05 03:27.03 ನಲ್ಲಿ, Chris Green ಬರೆದರು:
>
> Currently I automatically add all mailing lists I am subscribed to
> into my muttrc file against both 'lists' and 'subscribe', is this
> correct/OK?
>
> I've never been quite clear why there are two commands.
>
> I have in my muttrc :-
>
>
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 01:04:15PM +, ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote:
> 12021/01/05 03:27.03 ನಲ್ಲಿ, Chris Green ಬರೆದರು:
> >
> > Currently I automatically add all mailing lists I am subscribed to
> > into my muttrc file against both 'lists' and 'subscribe', is this
> > correct/OK?
> >
> > I've never bee
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:50:55PM +, Chris Green wrote:
Currently I automatically add all mailing lists I am subscribed to
into my muttrc file against both 'lists' and 'subscribe', is this
correct/OK?
I never added any mailing list I'm subscribed to, and everything works
well; I don't par
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 01:04:15PM +, ಚಿರಾಗ್ ನಟರಾಜ್ wrote:
> 12021/01/05 03:27.03 ನಲ್ಲಿ, Chris Green ಬರೆದರು:
>> Currently I automatically add all mailing lists I am subscribed to
>> into my muttrc file against both 'lists' and 'subscribe', is this
>> correct/OK?
>>
>> I've never been quite cle
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:30:38AM -0500, José María Mateos wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:50:55PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> > Currently I automatically add all mailing lists I am subscribed to
> > into my muttrc file against both 'lists' and 'subscribe', is this
> > correct/OK?
>
> I never
This isn't specifically mutt but it's definitely to do with managing
mail and there's lots of knowledgeable people here.
I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
this?
20 02 * * * find /home/chris/
On 15-02-2021 16:21:11, Chris Green wrote:
> I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> mails in my junk catching directories
May I ask why? I mean, how many tens of GB of mail do you get each year so that
it is necessary to delete stuff?
Matthias
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On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:26:09PM +0100, Matthias Beyer wrote:
> On 15-02-2021 16:21:11, Chris Green wrote:
> > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> > mails in my junk catching directories
>
> May I ask why? I mean, how many tens of GB of mail do you get each yea
On 15-02-2021 16:38:43, Chris Green wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:26:09PM +0100, Matthias Beyer wrote:
> > On 15-02-2021 16:21:11, Chris Green wrote:
> > > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> > > mails in my junk catching directories
> >
> > I mean, how man
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:58:25PM +0100, Matthias Beyer wrote:
> On 15-02-2021 16:38:43, Chris Green wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:26:09PM +0100, Matthias Beyer wrote:
> > > On 15-02-2021 16:21:11, Chris Green wrote:
> > > > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:07:54PM +, Chris Green wrote:
Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-)
I do, but for Junk / Trash I just set expiration times on those folders
on my e-mail provider (Fastmail) so I don't even have to think about
that.
Cheers,
--
José María (Chema) Mateo
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 03:32:54PM +, Chris Green wrote:
I think L[ist reply] depends on there being a List-Id header in the
list's messages to work if the list isn't in lists/subscribe.
Most of the lists I use do have List-Id headers but not (quite) all.
Yes, you're right. The worst offen
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:35:25AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
# Need to upgrade to > 1.8.0 (setenv)
folder-hook . 'set my_folder=$folder;set folder="XXX";set visual=^'
folder-hook . 'setenv MYSYNCFOLDER $visual'
folder-hook . 'set folder=$my_folder'
macr
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:32:28PM -0500, José María Mateos wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:07:54PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> > Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-)
>
> I do, but for Junk / Trash I just set expiration times on those folders on
> my e-mail provider (Fastmail) so I d
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> This isn't specifically mutt but it's definitely to do with managing
> mail and there's lots of knowledgeable people here.
>
> I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> mails in my junk catching directories
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
this?
20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {} \;
30 02 * * *
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
this?
20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {} \;
30 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/new -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {} \;
On 20210215, Chris Green wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:32:28PM -0500, José María Mateos wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:07:54PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-)
I do, but for Junk / Trash I just set expiration times on those folders on
my e-m
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:55:54PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
>
> > mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like this?
> >
> >20 02 * * * find /home/chris/mail/Ju/*/cur -type f -mtime +7 -exec rm {}
> > \
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:43:39AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:35:25AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
# Need to upgrade to > 1.8.0 (setenv)
folder-hook . 'set my_folder=$folder;set folder="XXX";set visual=^'
folder-hook . 'setenv MYSYNCFOLDER
On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
That should be fine. The only caveat is header caching. If you
delete messages outside of mutt, those messages won't be removed from
the header cache. Probably not a big deal for "junk catching"
folders, but once in a while you may wan
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:54:06AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> > mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
> > this?
> >
> >20
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:07:54PM +, Chris Green wrote:
Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-)
I do, and I try to be ruthless doing it. Since I copy every single piece
of email into my IMAP 'bak' mailfolder, where it sits for 180 days
before it is automatically deleted, I make s
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:54:06AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> > I currently have the following two lines in my crontab to delete old
> > mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like
> > this?
> >
> >20
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 05:39:26PM +, Sam Kuper wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 04:21:11PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> > This isn't specifically mutt but it's definitely to do with managing
> > mail and there's lots of knowledgeable people here.
> >
> > I currently have the following two line
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:12:39PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> mails in my junk catching directories, is it OK/safe to do it like this?
Other ones are error messages from a remote server which I
usually don't care about but occasionally I want to look at.
Oh, that's interesting. I might be
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:00:47PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> It's odd that none of the "maildir works like this" descriptions I
> could find had anything about deleting mails.
I agree. That's an unfortunate gap in the literature.
--
A: When it messes up the order in which people normally read
On 2021/02/14 23:40, Cameron Simpson wrote:
[format=flowed] is quite conservations, to minimise the implementation burden.
And
that frugality is likely where the inflexibility about ">" comes from.
I think it's to avoid ambiguity. A line that starts with "> " could have
been quoted that way
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:03:20PM +, Chris Green wrote:
Is that mutt's header caches?
Yes, that's what I meant to say. :)
If so I don't tend to leave mutt running all the time, I assume it
refreshes things whenever it's started does it?
Unfortunately, for header caches, "refreshing" do
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:17:42AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:03:20PM +, Chris Green wrote:
> > Is that mutt's header caches?
>
> Yes, that's what I meant to say. :)
>
> > If so I don't tend to leave mutt running all the time, I assume it
> > refreshes things
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 11:17:42AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
at a certain point the cache will lose some efficiency by sheer size.
From time to time I simply delete the whole contents of my ~/.mutt/cache
directory to keep it a bit more efficient. A kind of prune function
would be neat
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 07:40:58PM +, Chris Green wrote:
Where does mutt keep these header caches then?
I have 'set header_cache=~/.mutt/cache/'.
I don't have set header_cache set for the good reason that mutt doesn't
download mail from anywhere, it's all here on my desktop.
The cache
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:12:50AM -0800, Felix Finch wrote:
On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
once in a while you may want to regenerate your header caches.
Is there any way to do that from the command line?
You could write a script, I guess, something like:
cd $header_cache_dir
rm -f
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 08:51:35PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 07:40:58PM +, Chris Green wrote:
>
> > Where does mutt keep these header caches then?
>
> I have 'set header_cache=~/.mutt/cache/'.
>
> > I don't have set header_cache set for the good reason that mutt
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 08:04:10PM +, Chris Green wrote:
I have (for example) about 6000 messages in my sentmail folder, it
loads in less than a second. It is a *lot* faster since I installed
an NVME SSD.
Well, in that case it might not be such an improvement to use the header
cache and
On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
You could write a script, I guess, something like:
cd $header_cache_dir
rm -f *
cd $mutt_folder_dir
for mb in *; do
mutt -e 'set quit=yes; push ""' -f $mb
done
How well would that play with existing mutt sessions? I run severa
* Peng Yu [20210203 20:23:18]:
>On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:23 AM Will Yardley
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 08:57:32AM -0600, Peng Yu wrote:
>> >
>> > When I use mutt to construct an outgoing email, is there a way not
>> > to set the message id? Thanks.
>>
>> Even if Mutt doesn't set one, t
The current ongoing thread about lists and subscribe have led to my email. I
don't think I am understanding the differences and interactions to these
different Mutt configuration possibilities.
From the other thread if I am understanding correctly for those mailing lists
that I am subscribed to
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 07:13:05PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:43:39AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:35:25AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
# Need to upgrade to > 1.8.0 (setenv)
folder-hook . 'set my_folder=$folder;set fol
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:49:53PM -0800, Felix Finch wrote:
On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
You could write a script, I guess, something like:
cd $header_cache_dir
rm -f *
How well would that play with existing mutt sessions? I run several
mutts inside tmux (local mail, work IMAP
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:00:35AM +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote:
The below approach works for me, probably it can be helpful somehow:
.muttrc
---
# the very first folder-hook
folder-hook . "source ~/.mutt/on-folder-change.muttrc"
---
# .mutt/on-folder-change.muttrc
---
set record = ^
set reco
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:16:33PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:00:35AM +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote:
The below approach works for me, probably it can be helpful somehow:
.muttrc
---
# the very first folder-hook
folder-hook . "source ~/.mutt/on-folder-change.muttrc
On 20210215, Angel M Alganza wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 12:49:53PM -0800, Felix Finch wrote:
On 20210215, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
You could write a script, I guess, something like:
cd $header_cache_dir
rm -f *
How well would that play with existing mutt sessions? I run several
mutts
Hi boB,
On Monday, 15 February at 21:53, boB Stepp wrote:
> The current ongoing thread about lists and subscribe have led to my email. I
> don't think I am understanding the differences and interactions to these
> different Mutt configuration possibilities.
>
> From the other thread if I am unde
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:26:54AM +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote:
Then what should I do to mbsync the current maildir?
Hitting ESC-o doesn't seem to do it.
Yes, it is.
For debug I suggest to simplify macro as:
---
macro index,pager o "mbsync full:$record"
Nice. It shows that:
Shell comma
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:40:18PM +0100, Genética wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:26:54AM +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote:
Then what should I do to mbsync the current maildir?
Hitting ESC-o doesn't seem to do it.
Yes, it is.
For debug I suggest to simplify macro as:
---
macro index,pager o "
On 21/02/15 10:33PM, Wim wrote:
On Monday, 15 February at 21:53, boB Stepp wrote:
...BTW, typing "Mu" into the "To:" field
and then hitting does *not* fill in the email address; instead, it
brings up a browser view where I have to hit before the address is
inserted. Is there a way, when ther
On 15Feb2021 21:53, Shehu Dikko wrote:
>* Peng Yu [20210203 20:23:18]:
>>I want the first MTA add one, instead of using the one generated by
>>mutt.
>
>One way to get what you want is to use esmtp:
>
># muttrc
>set sendmail="/usr/bin/esmtp"
>
># esmtprc
>identity = u...@ho.st
> hostname = smtp.ho
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:40:18PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:26:54AM +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote:
Then what should I do to mbsync the current maildir?
Hitting ESC-o doesn't seem to do it.
Yes, it is.
For debug I suggest to simplify macro as:
---
macro index,pa
On 15Feb2021 17:07, Chris Green wrote:
>Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-)
Hmm:
[~/mail]fleet2*1> ls -ldh spam*
-rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 1.7G 16 Feb 08:43 spam
-rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 609M 16 Feb 08:46 spam-definite
Possibly not.
Can you tell mairix to
On 16Feb2021 09:05, Cameron Simpson wrote:
>On 15Feb2021 17:07, Chris Green wrote:
>>Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-)
>
>Hmm:
>[~/mail]fleet2*1> ls -ldh spam*
>-rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 1.7G 16 Feb 08:43 spam
>-rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 609M 16 Feb 08:46 spa
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:58:22PM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:40:18PM +0100, Genética wrote:
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:26:54AM +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote:
Then what should I do to mbsync the current maildir?
Hitting ESC-o doesn't seem to do it.
Yes, it is.
F
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 01:02:38AM +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote:
I guess your folder names differ from mine. You can debug step by step,
start from keeping only the first assignment:
---
set record = ^
---
Launch mutt and check the result pressing :echo $record
Then, you can adjust the sed patt
On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 01:14:31AM +0300, Oleg A. Mamontov wrote:
'full' is the name of my mbsync channel defined in ~/.mbsynrc:
---
# full set of mailboxes
Channel full
...
---
It was just an example that you need to correct according to your mbsync
setup.
I see. I group different channels o
* Cameron Simpson [02-15-21 17:06]:
> On 15Feb2021 17:07, Chris Green wrote:
> >Does no one else ever delete mail messges? :-)
>
> Hmm:
>
> [~/mail]fleet2*1> ls -ldh spam*
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 1.7G 16 Feb 08:43 spam
> -rw-rw-r-- 1 cameron cameron 609M 16 Feb 08:46
On 2021-02-15 16:01:06, boB Stepp wrote:
> > On Monday, 15 February at 21:53, boB Stepp wrote:
> > > And from reading the Mutt manual I have encountered the alternates
> > > option, but now I am not sure what it is useful for and how to
> > > most effectively use it.
>
> And "alternates" is still
On 2021-02-16 00:17:22, Øyvind A. Holm wrote:
> On 2021-02-15 16:01:06, boB Stepp wrote:
> > > On Monday, 15 February at 21:53, boB Stepp wrote:
> > > > And from reading the Mutt manual I have encountered the
> > > > alternates option, but now I am not sure what it is useful for
> > > > and how t
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 07:13:05PM +0100, Genética wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 09:43:39AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 10:35:25AM +0100, Angel M Alganza wrote:
# Need to upgrade to > 1.8.0 (setenv)
folder-hook . 'set my_folder=$folder;set folder="XX
On 21/02/16 12:28AM, Øyvind A. Holm wrote:
On 2021-02-16 00:17:22, Øyvind A. Holm wrote:
On 2021-02-15 16:01:06, boB Stepp wrote:
> > On Monday, 15 February at 21:53, boB Stepp wrote:
> > > And from reading the Mutt manual I have encountered the
> > > alternates option, but now I am not sure wha
On 2021-02-15 18:04:03, boB Stepp wrote:
> On 21/02/16 00:28, Øyvind A. Holm wrote:
> > On 2021-02-16 00:17:22, Øyvind A. Holm wrote:
> > > On 2021-02-15 16:01:06, boB Stepp wrote:
> > > > And "alternates" is still a mystery...
> > >
> > > It is used if you have any alternate or old email addresses
On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 06:04:03PM -0600, boB Stepp
wrote:
> On 21/02/16 12:28AM, Øyvind A. Holm wrote:
> > On 2021-02-16 00:17:22, Øyvind A. Holm wrote:
> > > On 2021-02-15 16:01:06, boB Stepp wrote:
> > > > > On Monday, 15 February at 21:53, boB Stepp wrote:
> > > > > > And from reading the Mu
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