Re: HOW to set the UMASK?

2008-05-20 Thread Vincent van Leeuwen
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 09:45:35AM -0700, Brendan Cully wrote: > There was a (very) long discussion of this a year ago, including a patch. > Rather than repeating history, let me point you to: > > http://lists.df7cb.de/mutt/message/20070303.051241.22a57515.en.html If you dislike patching and reco

Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
Hello, I have a strange problem that is driving me nuts. Sorry if this is long. Background: I am a long time mutt user. I use it at home. I use it at work. I get a lot of email. I love mutt. The problem is at work. I routinely interact with several servers (Linux and *BSD). I keep terminals with

Re: tagurl.pl

2008-05-20 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:29:16PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: >Make sense? Yeah for sure. But life is already simple with: macro index \cb |urlview\n 'call urlview to extract URLs out of a message' macro pager \cb |urlview\n 'call urlview to extract URLs out of a message' And

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Rado S
=- Hal Burgiss wrote on Tue 20.May'08 at 9:30:27 -0400 -= > The problem is at work. I routinely interact with several servers > (Linux and *BSD). I keep terminals with ssh sessions open to all > these. On one of these, I keep my personal mail spool (mbox). This is > a CentOS Linux server. The mut

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:45:47PM +0200, Rado S wrote: > a) try 1.5.18 OK, good idea. I am running that now, and should know within an hour or two. > b) I only know of stale NFS handles freezing mutt beyond recovery. > Try with local filesys folder open in mutt all day. If it doesn't > hang, it

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:13:34PM -0400, Hal Burgiss wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:45:47PM +0200, Rado S wrote: > > a) try 1.5.18 > > OK, good idea. I am running that now, and should know within an hour > or two. No go. Still hanging. :( -- Hal Burgiss

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread David Champion
> This Mutt hangs/freezes probably 10-15 times a day. It is completely > unresponsive. If I open a second ssh session, and kill the mutt > process, it generally takes maybe 30 seconds for mutt to let go, and > to get a shell prompt back. If I don't manually kill mutt, and just So you regain contro

Re: tagurl.pl

2008-05-20 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, May 20 at 11:18 PM, quoth Wilkinson, Alex: >0n Mon, May 19, 2008 at 08:29:16PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > >>Make sense? > >Yeah for sure. But life is already simple with: > > macro index \cb |urlview\n 'call urlview to extract U

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:06:28PM -0500, David Champion wrote: > > So you regain control of mutt's session when mutt dies to a kill > signal? Yes. Sometimes quickly. Sometimes after more than 30 seconds or so. > Can you also suspend mutt (control-Z) from within the same session, > or only from

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday, May 20 at 09:30 AM, quoth Hal Burgiss: > This Mutt hangs/freezes probably 10-15 times a day. It is completely > unresponsive. Try running mutt in debug mode; with luck, we can see what mutt's doing when it dies. ~Kyle - -- He who dares

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:26:54PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > > Try running mutt in debug mode; with luck, we can see what mutt's > doing when it dies. Thanks! I wasn't aware of debug mode, but I'm game. Rebuilt now and running -d 5 now. -- Hal Burgiss DBS>Interactive Technical Services

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Jussi Peltola
Try enabling SSH keepalives.

Re: no "New Mail in" notification when in pager

2008-05-20 Thread Steve S
On May 19 19:07, Steve S wrote: > Hi > > I noticed that when one is in the pager viewing a message and new mail arrives > (Maildir), no "New mail in ..." notification is displayed. Also, buffy-list > does only show the status before the new mail. However, in the browser and > index, it works as ex

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 06:01:10PM +, Jussi Peltola wrote: > Try enabling SSH keepalives. Thanks. I have keepalives enabled on the server end already. -- Hal Burgiss DBS>Interactive Technical Services

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:26:54PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > Try running mutt in debug mode; with luck, we can see what mutt's > doing when it dies. All I get is ... Caught signal 15... Exiting. That is from killing the mutt process after its hung. -- Hal Burgiss DBS>Interactive Technic

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:06:28PM -0500, David Champion wrote: > > So you regain control of mutt's session when mutt dies to a kill signal? > Can you also suspend mutt (control-Z) from within the same session, or > only from outside? I've had two opportunites to try control-z. Both times it work

Re: speed of cacheing depends on terminal?

2008-05-20 Thread dv1445
Thus spake Rocco Rutte [05/15/08 @ 16.16.10 +0200]: > * [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> FWIW: I built using the BerkeleyDB libraries, since the other choices >> refuse to work with OSX. (Actually, I finally got mutt to build with gdb, >> but mutt behaved *really* weird with screen-drawing, so gdb is

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2008-05-20, Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:26:54PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > > Try running mutt in debug mode; with luck, we can see what mutt's > > doing when it dies. > > All I get is ... > > Caught signal 15... Exiting. > > That is from killing th

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 01:46:59PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: > > The debug output is sent to a file, not to your terminal. The > latest debug file will have the name ~/.muttdebug0. Ach! Thanks. Wasn't expecting that. Now have 5 different ones, and its a little hard to see where the problem mig

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Gary Johnson
On 2008-05-20, Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 01:46:59PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: > > > > The debug output is sent to a file, not to your terminal. The > > latest debug file will have the name ~/.muttdebug0. > > Ach! Thanks. Wasn't expecting that. Now have 5

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 02:05:28PM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: > > I should have mentioned this before, but something you can do to > help associate the contents of the debug file with mutt's actions is > to open another terminal and in it run > >tail -f ~/.muttdebug0 Excellent! Its going n

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread David Champion
> What should a functional control-z tell me? If control-Z works, your transport (ssh) and terminal are still fundamentally intact, and responsive to low-level traffic and out-of-band signals. (It means that mutt is responsive to signals too, for that matter -- once it receives them.) Does mutt

Re: Mutt hangs, Network Issue?

2008-05-20 Thread Hal Burgiss
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 05:09:07PM -0500, David Champion wrote: > > What should a functional control-z tell me? > > If control-Z works, your transport (ssh) and terminal are still > fundamentally intact, and responsive to low-level traffic and > out-of-band signals. (It means that mutt is respon

extract_url.pl - version 1.3

2008-05-20 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Since the mutt world is the only group I know who might care about this... I just updated my extract_url.pl script (a urlview prefilter/replacement). The big new feature is that (when used as a standalone) it saves a little bit of the context of ea

Re: extract_url.pl - version 1.3

2008-05-20 Thread Wilkinson, Alex
0n Tue, May 20, 2008 at 07:14:21PM -0500, Kyle Wheeler wrote: >The original reason for this script was because urlview doesn't >correctly handle format=flowed email or any other email encodings, so >URLs are often mishandled or simply broken. This script handles all >known