Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Fri, Aug 02, 2002 at 02:43:15 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > not quite right - sorry. so lete me repeat: OK, perhaps I haven't understood. > i want the manual to list all possibilities of default > values and their dependencies to configure options - I still don't understand. What do you mean

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-01 15:30]: > Very few default values depend on the compile-time option. thank god! > > just as the INSTALL file cannot give > > info about the installed mutt binary - > > the manual cannot do this, either. > I agree. But I recall that *you* wanted t

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 16:54:28 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > you will have to write a *lot* to clear this up for every option... Very few default values depend on the compile-time option. > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-01 13:45]: > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 07:41:22 -0500, Patr

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-01 13:43]: > Default: depends on the compile-time configuration, e.g. "/path/file" > (check with "mutt -v | grep keyword") > > It must be clear that "/path/file" is only an example. > There is no reason why the administrator would have > used "s

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 07:41:22 -0500, Patrick wrote: > That IS THE INFORMATION presented in the INSTALL file within the > tarball/rpm issue for each version of mutt and most other program > issues. The user doesn't necessarily have the tarball or rpm. Moreover, the INSTALL file doesn't say anyt

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 13:33:46 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > i dont think that the description to every option needs > a description on how to use the configure script. > however, a pointer on how to check > "mutt -v" might be required. > > Default: "/path/file" > (unless specified by --s

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-08-01 08:29]: > Read what Sven wrote (concerning the manual): > > Default: "/path/file" (unless specified by --some-option) > > If the user wants to know if he can trust to the default value given > in the manual, he needs to know the options given to

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 13:36:54 +1000, Iain Truskett wrote: > What doesn't it give? It's not a set of parameters you can give to > configure, but then one can edit config.h after that anyway. The user doesn't have access to config.h. > What exactly do you want? Read what Sven wrote (concerning

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 21:49:21 -0500, Patrick wrote: > Quote from and earlier post by you answering Sven Guckes: > > > whenever I see the options list > > I think it *should* be sorted: > > > > Compile options: > > -DOMAIN > > -DEBUG > > -HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK -DL_STAND

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [01 Aug 2002 13:33]: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:25:01 +1000, Iain Truskett wrote: > > * Vincent Lefevre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [01 Aug 2002 11:56]: > > [..] > > > And how can one find the options used to compile Mutt? > > > > mutt -v > No, it gives partial in

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 21:32:48 -0500, Patrick wrote: > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-31-02 21:25]: > > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 21:14:18 -0500, Patrick wrote: > > > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-31-02 21:04]: > > > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:09:18 +0200, Sven Guckes wrot

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 12:25:01 +1000, Iain Truskett wrote: > * Vincent Lefevre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [01 Aug 2002 11:56]: > > [..] > > And how can one find the options used to compile Mutt? > > mutt -v No, it gives partial information. -- Vincent Lefèvre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - Web:

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-31-02 21:25]: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 21:14:18 -0500, Patrick wrote: > > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-31-02 21:04]: > > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:09:18 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > > > > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-31 21

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-31-02 21:25]: > On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 21:14:18 -0500, Patrick wrote: > > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-31-02 21:04]: > > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:09:18 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > > > > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-31 21

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [01 Aug 2002 11:56]: [..] > And how can one find the options used to compile Mutt? mutt -v cheers, -- Iain, who still finds it odd seeing you in non-Acorn contexts.

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 21:14:18 -0500, Patrick wrote: > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-31-02 21:04]: > > On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:09:18 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > > > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-31 21:03]: > > > > > so the solution is: extend the manual with more

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [07-31-02 21:04]: > On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:09:18 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-31 21:03]: > > > > so the solution is: extend the manual with more information! > > > > eg "Default: "/path/file" (unless specifi

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Thu, Aug 01, 2002 at 02:09:18 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-31 21:03]: > > > so the solution is: extend the manual with more information! > > > eg "Default: "/path/file" (unless specified by --some-option)" > > The user doesn't necessarily know what

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-31 21:03]: > > so the solution is: extend the manual with more information! > > eg "Default: "/path/file" (unless specified by --some-option)" > The user doesn't necessarily know what options have > been used, so this is a bad idea to say that. i di

Re: option description - default and dependencies

On Wed, Jul 31, 2002 at 19:36:33 +0200, Sven Guckes wrote: > * Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-31 17:16]: > > The default value of dotlock_program > > depends on the configuration options. > > ah, ok, good example! which was in my first message of this thread. :) > but it still doe

Re: option description - default and dependencies

* Vincent Lefevre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-07-31 17:16]: > > > > the default value should *always* be documented. > > > What do you mean by "documented"? > > the manual to "muttrc" should show it. > OK, so what happens if two Mutt binaries use different default values? "different things"? ;-)