Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-10-01 Thread Daniel Roesen
> That said I cannot reproduce the problem on Redhat Linux with slang, I am running RH 6.0 and I'm having this annoying problem... Best regards, Daniel

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-10-01 Thread Tom Gilbert
* Michael H. Warfield ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 07:25:24PM -0700, Michael Jennings wrote: > > On Thursday, 30 September 1999, at 21:53:18 (-0400), > > Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > > > Interesting... Except I'm not running eterm or rxvt. > > > I can't say I sympathiz

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-10-01 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 1999-09-30 21:25:37 +0100, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: > I suffer this annoyance with Debian 2.1's mutt, which uses slang (mutt > -v below). > > I seem to remember that there are reasons for some people to prefer > slang rather than ncurses, so, is there any way of solving the problem > while

Re: S-Lang or ncurses? (was Re: Cut and paste annoyance...)

1999-10-01 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
I found the trailing-space-cut-and-paste-annoyance mostly disappeared when I changed my environment variable COLORFGBG from default;default to black;16. (My background is actually white, but COLORFGBG='black;white' gave me a light blue background. I found the value 16 by trial and error.) Now I c

S-Lang or ncurses? (was Re: Cut and paste annoyance...)

1999-10-01 Thread Frederic L . W . Meunier
Hmm, since we're talking about ncurses, S-Lang, and terminals, I have a question that may be better answered by John E. Davis, the author of S-Lang, and Thomas E. Dickey, the maintainer of ncurses (or may be not?), or by any other developer. I have two questions: 1- What are the differences you

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Michael Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 30 Sep 1999: > But it's your terminal, folks, not mutt. I don't agree. I've been using the same xterm binary for a long time, apparently the timestamp says "Aug 4 1997". I used to get this problem with Mutt, but I don't anymore. Unfortunately

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread John E. Davis
Michael H. Warfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To be perfectly honest, if an application padded a line out with >spaces, I would expect to be able to cut and paste those spaces. If I do not know how to say it any other way. Neither ncurses nor slang have any idea about the context of wh

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 07:25:24PM -0700, Michael Jennings wrote: > On Thursday, 30 September 1999, at 21:53:18 (-0400), > Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > Interesting... Except I'm not running eterm or rxvt. > I can't say I sympathize with your plight much, in that case. :-) > > I'm using x

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Ken W
FYI, I do not use color and use the CRT telnet application under Windows NT. Again, here is my mutt -v: Mutt 1.0pre3i (1999-09-25) Copyright (C) 1996-9 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread John E. Davis
David DeSimone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There's more to it than that, I believe. You need to also set an >environment variable: > >export COLORFGBG="default;default" > >> (It's black lettering on a white background, which is my >> terminal mode). If you know e

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Michael Jennings
On Thursday, 30 September 1999, at 21:53:18 (-0400), Michael H. Warfield wrote: > Interesting... Except I'm not running eterm or rxvt. I can't say I sympathize with your plight much, in that case. :-) > I'm using xterm. Then you're pretty much screwed. See below. > System #1, Re

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread John E. Davis
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:59:45 -0500, David DeSimone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >If Mutt is printing lots of spaces to the end of the line, why doesn't >this cut/paste behavior always show up? Why is it only happening when >color is enabled? It is probably using an escape sequence (ESC[K) for t

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 06:46:33PM -0500, David DeSimone wrote: [...] > At any rate, though, having done this, I can report that the problem > persists. What I find is that, the spaces that are printed out to the > right margin, now use the default color, instead of the last color used

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 05:05:46PM -0700, Michael Jennings wrote: > On Thursday, 30 September 1999, at 18:46:33 (-0500), > David DeSimone wrote: > > There's more to it than that, I believe. You need to also set an > > environment variable: > > export COLORFGBG="default;default" > > >

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Michael Jennings
On Thursday, 30 September 1999, at 18:46:33 (-0500), David DeSimone wrote: > There's more to it than that, I believe. You need to also set an > environment variable: > > export COLORFGBG="default;default" > > > (It's black lettering on a white background, which is my > >

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread David DeSimone
John E. Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Maybe, or maybe not. The simple truth is that this is neither an > ncurses, slang, nor a mutt problem. The root of the problem is with > the terminal itself second guessing the context of what is on the > screen. Not even the screen management softwa

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread David DeSimone
Michael H. Warfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This arises the theory, that the problems will vanish if "default" > > is used as background color (means transparent). Could someone > > verify this? > > 2) If this is the option you mean, I guess I'm using default. > > "c

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Daniel Roesen
> > This arises the theory, that the problems will vanish if "default" is > > used as background color (means transparent). Could someone verify this? > "color normal default default# default" > 3) I am having the problem with Mutt 1.0pre3i. OK, then I think w

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 01:02:23AM +0200, Daniel Roesen wrote: > > The center of the problem seems to be that slang fills all lines to > > colorize the complete line. And these fill characters are then > > copied... > This arises the theory, that the problems will vanish if "default" is used as

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 02:05:59PM -0700, brian moore wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:47:45PM -0400, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:04:04PM -0400, Michael H. Warfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > Hello, > > > Hmmm Just noticed a "cut and paste" annoyance th

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Daniel Roesen
> The center of the problem seems to be that slang fills all lines to > colorize the complete line. And these fill characters are then > copied... This arises the theory, that the problems will vanish if "default" is used as background color (means transparent). Could someone verify this? Best

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Roland Rosenfeld: > As far as I can see this problem depends on the curses library and > your use of colors. I just tried the following combinations: > > slang without any color settings -> no problems > slang with color settings (background set to black) -> your problem > ncurses with or withou

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Ken
At 10:29 PM 9/30/99 +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: >According to Goran Koruga: >> it works fine here. > >And I see the problem here with slang. It is very annoying. I seem to recall >it was done in order to get the colors on the full line but still. > >Mutt 1.0pre2i (1999-08-31) >Copyright (C) 1996

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread brian moore
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:47:45PM -0400, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:04:04PM -0400, Michael H. Warfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Hmmm Just noticed a "cut and paste" annoyance that I had never > > encounted with elm or with any other pager l

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread John E. Davis
David DeSimone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >That's interesting, because it does *not* work fine here. > >Mutt 0.96.6i (1999-08-31) >System: HP-UX B.10.20 [using slang 9938] > >Perhaps that Slang upgrade that I've been putting off, would be a good >idea... :) Maybe, or maybe not. The simp

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to Goran Koruga: > it works fine here. And I see the problem here with slang. It is very annoying. I seem to recall it was done in order to get the colors on the full line but still. Mutt 1.0pre2i (1999-08-31) Copyright (C) 1996-9 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTEL

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Thomas Ribbrock
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:47:45PM -0400, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: > Could the people saying that this does and doesn't happen to them post > the output of "mutt -v"? It *does* happen for me as well. Mutt 1.0pre3i (1999-09-25) Copyright (C) 1996-9 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with AB

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread David DeSimone
Goran Koruga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 30 1999, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > > it works fine here. > > System: HP-UX B.10.20 [using slang 10202] That's interesting, because it does *not* work fine here. Mutt 0.96.6i (1999-08-31) System: HP-UX B.10.20 [using slang 9938]

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Roland Rosenfeld
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > Hmmm Just noticed a "cut and paste" annoyance that I had > never encounted with elm or with any other pager like more or less. > If I'm viewing a message and copy part of the message using the > mouse cut and paste in X-Windows, I find

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Ken W
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: > I have a vague recollection that this may be a ncurses vs. slang issue. > Could the people saying that this does and doesn't happen to them post > the output of "mutt -v"? This is in general good practice when > reporting a problem, Mutt 1.0pre3i (1

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Goran Koruga
On Thu, Sep 30 1999, Michael H. Warfield wrote: it works fine here. Mutt 1.0pre2i (1999-08-31) Copyright (C) 1996-9 Michael R. Elkins and others. Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'. Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain condi

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Daniel Eisenbud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 30 Sep 1999: > > Hmmm Just noticed a "cut and paste" annoyance that I had never > > encounted with elm or with any other pager like more or less. I used to get this too, but I think it went away when I upgraded from something like 0.94 to

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Michael H. Warfield
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:47:45PM -0400, Daniel Eisenbud wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:04:04PM -0400, Michael H. Warfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > Hello, > > Hmmm Just noticed a "cut and paste" annoyance that I had never > > encounted with elm or with any other pager like

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Daniel Eisenbud
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999 at 12:04:04PM -0400, Michael H. Warfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > Hmmm Just noticed a "cut and paste" annoyance that I had never > encounted with elm or with any other pager like more or less. If I'm > viewing a message and copy part of the message

Re: Cut and paste annoyance...

1999-09-30 Thread Ken W
On Thu, Sep 30, 1999, Michael H. Warfield wrote: > Hmmm Just noticed a "cut and paste" annoyance that I had never > encounted with elm or with any other pager like more or less. If I'm > viewing a message and copy part of the message using the mouse cut and > paste in X-Windows, I find