Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Jamie Griffin
> Leopard comes with the necessary stuff for several variants of nsterm, > but not nsterm-16color. You can install your own ncurses (e.g. via > MacPorts), which I usually do, and that *will* contain the necessary > nsterm-16color stuff, but system-provided programs won't use it. > *THAT* is w

Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tuesday, May 4 at 06:37 PM, quoth Jamie Griffin: > Yeah, I read a few old posts in the archives where you had explained > the benefits of setting up Terminal.app in that way but I think the > OP(s) problems at the time were mostly related to lo

Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Jamie Griffin
> Ahhh. Personally, I find "nsterm-16color" is usually more accurate for > Apple's Terminal. It stands for "NextStep Terminal" (or should I say > "NeXTstep"), which is where Apple's Terminal came from. The only > downside is that nsterm-16color isn't included with some old versions > of ncurses

Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tuesday, May 4 at 04:49 PM, quoth Jamie Griffin: > Cool. Thanks for the detailed explanation. :) >> What terminal program are you using on your Mac? Apple's Terminal >> or an honest-to-god xterm or something else? > > I'm just using Terminal.a

Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Jamie Griffin
[ ... ] Cool. Thanks for the detailed explanation. > What terminal program are you using on your Mac? Apple's Terminal or > an honest-to-god xterm or something else? I'm just using Terminal.app. What confused me slightly was that this wasn't happening on another NetBSD machine i use, which

Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tuesday, May 4 at 03:59 PM, quoth Jamie Griffin: > There are quite a few entries in /etc/termcap already for xterm-*, > including xterm-color. Good! > I tried setting TERM=xterm-color in ~.cshrc (obviously using the > correct environment sett

Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Jamie Griffin
Hi Kyle, thanks for your help. > The TERM is definitely the issue. That setting controls how mutt (or, > more accurately, ncurses) knows what codes to use to change the colors > and otherwise draw things on your terminal (such as the status bar). > > You don't need to install X11 on your FreeB

Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Kyle Wheeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Tuesday, May 4 at 03:13 PM, quoth Jamie Griffin: > The $TERM environment variable on my Mac is set to xterm-color; at > present, I do not have X11 installed on my FreeBSD machine so it's > just the default: cons25. (Not sure if that would make

Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Jamie Griffin
Hi Nathan > Was the Mutt on the FreeBSD machine linked with slang, while the Mutt on > the other machines using ncurses? (You can tell by looking at the first > few lines of the output from "mutt -v".) mutt on my FreeBSD machine is definitely compiled with ncurses; ncurses 5.6.20080503 to be

Re: Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Nathan Stratton Treadway
On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 11:58:57 +0100, Jamie Griffin wrote: > remote mutt. However when I do, the display on terminal is not right, > namely that the indicator does not stretch across the whole width of > the screen as it normally does, and only extends enough to highlight > the subject text of th

Mac OS X Terminal.app, FreeBSD, ssh

2010-05-04 Thread Jamie Griffin
I use FreeBSD for my email server and have mutt installed on it. I often ssh into the mail server from Mac OS X (Leopard) and use the remote mutt. However when I do, the display on terminal is not right, namely that the indicator does not stretch across the whole width of the screen as it normal