Re: Test-time dependencies.

2006-08-04 Thread Jonathan Rockway
rtant than worrying about whether or not someone needs to install T::E. It's a pretty standard module; they'll need it sooner or later :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway Dmitri Tikhonov wrote: > > Dear fellow Perl module authors: > > I have a test suite for my distribution (RT-Client-

Re: Give up your modules!

2006-08-14 Thread Jonathan Rockway
BTW, I have some free time to devote to maintaining modules. So, if you want to unload one, let me know. Although, for some reason I doubt that anyone who reads module-authors wants to give up their modules :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway Ovid wrote: > Hi all, > > No names, but if you

Re: Give up your modules!

2006-08-14 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Is there software that needs to be written? I could write a small Catalyst application to handle this, if someone is willing to host it. Regards, Jonathan Rockway > 1. Place for current module authors/maintainers who wish to transfer > maintenance of certain modules to so indicate.

Re: Give up your modules!

2006-08-15 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Isn't CPANTS down indefinitely? > I guess such thing should be part of CPANTS. > > Gabor

Re: CPAN::Forum update rss feed per PAUSEID

2006-08-29 Thread Jonathan Rockway
k for me :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway

Re: Take back your modules!

2006-09-07 Thread Jonathan Rockway
bad maintainter" too. That doesn't solve any problems. Send patches, send good bug reports. We're a community here, everyone /wants/ to help everyone else. Forget about who "owns" what, though, because it just doesn't matter. Regards, Jonathan Rockway Mark St

spamming cpan? was [Fwd: Perl-Freelancer needed]

2006-10-05 Thread Jonathan Rockway
to report it to spamcop. If that's not the case, I'm going to nicely suggest that they post to jobs.perl.org instead. Thanks. Regards, Jonathan Rockway Here's the beginning of the message in question: Original Message Subject: Perl-Freelancer needed Date: Thu,

Re: spamming cpan? was [Fwd: Perl-Freelancer needed]

2006-10-05 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ot an advertising list :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway Jerry Hedden wrote: > Jonathan Rockway queried: >> Did anyone else get a message like this via their CPAN alias? > > Yep. I did. > >> If this is the case, I'm going to report it to spamcop. > > Great idea. Plea

Re: HOW-TO?

2006-10-06 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ion to the CPAN! :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway Ryan Golhar wrote: > Is there a HOW-TO for adding a module to CPAN? I recently got a PAUSE > account and uploaded a tar.gz module I created. However I'm not sure > what to do after that. I don't see a Help menu item on the PAUSE

Re: Preventing PAUSE from indexing a module?

2006-10-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
> no_index: > DB: 1 > > WTH am I doing wrong? It looks like Module::Install does this: no_index: directory: - t - t/lib - foo/bar i.e.: YAML::Dump({no_index => {directory => [qw|t t/lib foo/bar|]}}) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- package JAPH;use

Re: Modules dealing with data files

2006-11-13 Thread Jonathan Rockway
much less than the data size. (So it's not wasteful to download the code with each data update.) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- package JAPH;use Catalyst qw/-Debug/;($;=JAPH)->config(name => do { $,.=reverse qw[Jonathan tsu rehton lre rekca Rockway][$_].[split //, ";$;"]->[$_].q; ;for 1..4;$,=~s;^.;;;$,});$;->setup;

Re: Updating a module that's included in another distro

2006-11-25 Thread Jonathan Rockway
bundled with it, make sure the $VERSION in (the bundled) Geo::Gpx is lower than the real CPAN version. That should prevent future version problems. Hope that helps. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- package JAPH;use Catalyst qw/-Debug/;($;=JAPH)->config(name => do { $,.=reverse qw[Jonathan ts

Re: Bindings

2007-01-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Darek Dwornikowski wrote: > One question, If i wont to write perl bindings for some library what > should i use ? I am thinking about bindings for rsbac. SWIG is probably a good start, although it doesn't play well with CPAN (it can be made to, though). Otherwise there's h2xs if you want to write

Re: Looking for a module name

2007-01-18 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Ovid wrote: > More than once I've thought about writing > Acme::NowYouUnderstandWhyYouNeedToFixTheHorribleMethodNamesBeforeYouGoBlindYouSillyGit. M-x glasses-mode (For those that don't have emacs handy [!], that will convert CanYouReadThis::IThinkNot to Can_You_Read_This::I_Think_Not when it's d

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Jonathan Rockway
David Landgren wrote: > I recommend against deleting it, because that only add fuel to the fire. > The crackpot who uploaded this drivel in the first place will be able to > crow freedom of speech and it's all a communist plot, there really is a > perl cabal and they're out to get me and blah blah

Re: Delete hate speech module

2007-02-08 Thread Jonathan Rockway
David Landgren wrote: > Continuing as the devil's advocate, I still can't decide if that's just > a parody on the whole license issue. It's just too over the top. > > That said, I agree that CPAN doesn't have to be the vector for > distributing this useless drivel. While the license gave me a big

Re: Another non-free license - PerlBuildSystem

2007-02-16 Thread Jonathan Rockway
c/GPL seems more appropriate for CPAN projects, because That's What Everyone Else Does (tm). Good enough for me. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- package JAPH;use Catalyst qw/-Debug/;($;=JAPH)->config(name => do { $,.=reverse qw[Jonathan tsu rehton lre rekca Rockway][$_].[split //, ";$;"]->[$_].q; ;for 1..4;$,=~s;^.;;;$,});$;->setup;

Re: Module proposal: Test::Timer

2007-03-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Thursday 08 March 2007 13:59, Jonas B. Nielsen wrote: > I will look into converting all tabs to spaces, it is simply in the > fingers and I find it hard to not use tab, perhaps I should just map the > key to something else - actually I do not get all the fuss about > tabs, but I will clean it up

Re: CPAN testers machines that lack Module::Build

2007-03-13 Thread Jonathan Rockway
it. The suggestion > was to use M::B and 'build_require' it. So I don't really want to back > out of that now Why don't y'all just use Module::Install? It handles build_requires, AND you can bundle modules with your dist, in case dependencies worry you. Problems

Re: Test failures - I can't work out why

2007-05-03 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 09:26:56 am Ovid wrote: > --- Keith Ivey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yeah, "Zawodny" was a joke. But JWZ is still Zawinski, not Zawinsky. > > Gah. Kill me now, please. Some people, when confronted with a problem, think "Gah. Kill me now, please." Now they have two

recent search.cpan changes?

2007-05-05 Thread Jonathan Rockway
inter to it? Thanks! Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- package JAPH;use Catalyst qw/-Debug/;($;=JAPH)->config(name => do { $,.=reverse qw[Jonathan tsu rehton lre rekca Rockway][$_].[split //, ";$;"]->[$_].q; ;for 1..4;$,=~s;^.;;;$,});$;->setup; pgp9rmIDddihN.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: LISP module from CPAN

2007-05-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
} Incidentally, emacs lisp is dynamically typed, but scheme isn't. Confused? I am. :) ... wow, this is offtopic now. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- package JAPH;use Catalyst qw/-Debug/;($;=JAPH)->config(name => do { $,.=reverse qw[Jonathan tsu rehton lre rekca Rockway][$_].[split //, ";$;"]->[$_].q; ;for 1..4;$,=~s;^.;;;$,});$;->setup; pgplQRObWB40O.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: recent search.cpan changes?

2007-05-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Sunday 06 May 2007 10:50:52 pm Adam Kennedy wrote: > Jonathan Rockway wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I noticed search.cpan is acting differently now (probably due to the HOOO > > perl fiasco). Were these changes discussed anywhere publicly before they > > were mad

unicode filenames

2007-05-15 Thread Jonathan Rockway
cs, but I think I could do better. For reference, the modules in question are File::Attributes, File::Attributes::Simple, File::Attributes::Extended, and Directory::Scratch. Thanks! Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- package JAPH;use Catalyst qw/-Debug/;($;=JAPH)->config(name =>

US mirror of search.cpan *broken*

2007-05-27 Thread Jonathan Rockway
The bizrate search.cpan is broken. The most recent module (judging by the recent tab) is from 5 days ago, 23 May. I'm told that the UK mirror (digitalcraftsmen) is running fine. -- package JAPH;use Catalyst qw/-Debug/;($;=JAPH)->config(name => do { $,.=reverse qw[Jonathan tsu rehton lre rekc

Re: Module::Install reporting ARRAY(0x82c3dd8) ...missing

2007-06-19 Thread Jonathan Rockway
> > semicolons instead of commas at the end of those lines? > > Geeze. > > Turns out coffee helps, too! That's what I get for editing an > existing MakeMaker Makefile. I think you can actually use EUMM syntax: requires ( foo => '0.01', MyApp => '3.14'

Re: Modules are missing on CPAN

2007-07-14 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Thursday 24 May 2007 08:29:55 am Graham Barr wrote: > On May 23, 2007, at 4:28 PM, Andy Lester wrote: > > At first I thought I might have deleted two revisions of > > WWW::Mechanize by mistake, but it's not just Mech: SOAP::Lite is > > missing revisions. > > > > http://search.cpan.org/dist/SOAP

Re: Module Proposal: Package::Data::Inheritable

2007-09-04 Thread Jonathan Rockway
e base 'A'; And then: $A::DATA # 'A' $B::DATA # 'B' $C::DATA # 'A' If so, I don't know of anything on CPAN that does this. However, I think inheriting variables is a *terrible* idea. What is your reason for wanting to use variables instead of properly delegating to methods? Regards, Jonathan Rockway signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Bug fix in Test::More 0.71 may reveal failures tests

2007-09-17 Thread Jonathan Rockway
> • Solaris::Disk::VTOC (15size2.t) > • SVN::Notify (html.t) > • Test::MinimumVersion (pod-coverage.t) > • Text::Aspell (05-core.t) > • Text::Capitalize (003-captitle-preserve_whitespace.t) > • Tuxedo::Admin (1.t) > • WWW::Ofoto (14-upload_lots.t) > Aristotle++. Your metho

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Test::Builder/More/Simple 0.72

2007-09-21 Thread Jonathan Rockway
re often people will pay more attention? ;) Regards, Jonathan Rockway signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Module metadata

2007-09-26 Thread Jonathan Rockway
make authors go to > multiple places to create and manage their metadata. > Yuck. I don't want to release a new dist just to add a tag to my module. Regards, Jonathan Rockway

Re: Module metadata

2007-09-26 Thread Jonathan Rockway
META.yml. Is the rest worth adding, or is it time to forget about it?) As for "keywords", can I use those for anything? It would be nice to replace the manually-generated categories on search.cpan (and other places) with popular tags. Maybe that's too "web 2.0y" but I th

Re: Choosing a name for may new module

2007-09-27 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Jean-Christian Hassler wrote: > Hello !! > > I would like to create a module to use as a view in the catalyst > framework. You should ask on the Catalyst list instead. See http://lists.scsys.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/catalyst for details. Regards, Jonathan Rockway s

Re: Choosing a name for may new module

2007-09-28 Thread Jonathan Rockway
#x27;ll get more interest on the Catalyst list though. Anything that's tangentially related to Catalyst is welcome there, and there's a lot more traffic than on module-authors. Regards, Jonathan Rockway

Re: RFC: relative.pm

2007-10-08 Thread Jonathan Rockway
s. However, it is annoying if you run into an edge case that doesn't work. I never have though. In fact, I've even gotten away with things like 'use lib "$Bin/../lib"' working across platforms :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: S/SA/SAPER/relative-0.02.tar.gz (feature request)

2007-10-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Ovid wrote: > I do get tired of writing code like that (it happens a lot in test > suites when I have "use_ok $CLASS" in a BEGIN block). > OT, but 'ok.pm' is quite nice: use Test::More tests => 1; use ok 'My::Module'; # test runs

Re: RFC: relative.pm

2007-10-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Pearce, Martyn wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Jonathan Rockway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Pearce, Martyn wrote: >> >>> It is? How so? >>> >> Don't top-post. It ruins the flow for people trying to reply

Re: RFC: relative.pm

2007-10-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Andy Armstrong wrote: > On 9 Oct 2007, at 11:05, Jonathan Rockway wrote: >> What a fucking joke. > > If it's a joke you should use Comic Sans so everyone /knows/ it's funny. > No no, Comic Sans is for presentations to the shareholders! Regards, Jonathan Rockway

Re: Namespace question: ok if I use Text::Locale

2007-11-26 Thread Jonathan Rockway
discourage from finding the best way to do i18n, but do keep in mind that other people have also solved this problem before. Regards, Jonathan Rockway signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Help with Test Failures

2007-12-01 Thread Jonathan Rockway
stamble { my $optional = join ',', @RECOMMENDS; return <<"EOM"; test-exclude-recommends: \tperl -MDevel::Hide=-from:children,$optional 'exec("make test")' EOM } Untested. Regards, Jonathan Rockway signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Help with Test Failures

2007-12-01 Thread Jonathan Rockway
sion of these modules", though, as long as your module behaves the same regardless of whether PP or XS is installed. JMHO. Regards, Jonathan Rockway signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: With the Macrame macro system, Perl may now be a Lisp.

2007-12-01 Thread Jonathan Rockway
dered a failed experiment, like pseudohashes. IMO, Devel::Declare is the right way to do this sort of thing. Messy code, but much safer to use (and more tests; the test shiped with Macrame scares me with how little it covers). Regards, Jonathan Rockway signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: With the Macrame macro system, Perl may now be a Lisp.

2007-12-07 Thread Jonathan Rockway
p using emacs because elisp's lack of static scope is a "failed experiment"? Should we forget about java because single inheritance is a "failed experiment"? Should we stop using Perl because TMTOWTDI is a "failed experiment"? To be clear, my point is that everyone th

Re: With the Macrame macro system, Perl may now be a Lisp.

2007-12-07 Thread Jonathan Rockway
have been quite successful; for example, Moose. The great thing about Perl is you can choose what to use. Don't like macros? Don't use 'em. Don't like people using macros in CPAN modules? Don't use 'em. Trying to control what other people think and do will get you no

Re: Naming convention for thin wrappers around C lib.so ?

2007-12-11 Thread Jonathan Rockway
it's a wrapper for. No shortage of opinions in this thread, but I thought I'd throw mine in anyway; Memcached::libmemcached. This name, to me, implies that it's a Memcached interface that uses libmemcached. It doesn't say "raw" or anything, but the "lib" part

Re: EUMM and Module::Build installations - Oh God, Help!

2007-12-21 Thread Jonathan Rockway
or EUMM and MB). http://search.cpan.org/~apeiron/local-lib-1.001000/lib/local/lib.pm Regards, Jonathan Rockway signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Date::Piece months and weeks

2008-01-04 Thread Jonathan Rockway
se error" and no native speaker would ever say that. "Today" is much more natural :) Also, if the day is Saturday and we want to talk about the day 8 days away, we would say "a week from tomorrow", not "next Sunday". IANAL (lingust) :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Date::Piece months and weeks

2008-01-04 Thread Jonathan Rockway
On Fri, 2008-01-04 at 13:50 -0500, Keith Ivey wrote: > Jonathan Rockway wrote: > > Uh, in en_US we say this too. > > There are people in the US (and probably other places) for whom "I went > to the zoo this Sunday" is perfectly grammatical. Some might say "th

Re: FAIL Test-Pod-Coverage-1.08 i386-freebsd 6.1-release

2008-01-29 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Andy Lester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:32 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > >> To be honest, it's usually humans that provide the least useful >> reports. The bots do a much better job. > > > If they're using CPAN::Reporter, then

Re: FAIL Test-Pod-Coverage-1.08 i386-freebsd 6.1-release

2008-01-29 Thread Jonathan Rockway
nce a failure but having to wait an hour for the nntp.perl.org archive to catch up before I can see what the problem is and start working on a fix. (It would be nice if the main cpantesters site updated faster also, but I'm fine with just email.) Regards, Jonathan Rockway

Re: Depending on external tools

2008-02-01 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ools as > well? Or is there a better alternative? Module::Install has a requires_external_bin keyword for this. Regards, Jonathan Rockway

Re: Maintenance of IO::Socket::INET6 - http://search.cpan.org/dist/IO-Socket-INET6/

2008-02-03 Thread Jonathan Rockway
t the brokenness in IO::Socket::INET6. When I::S::6 fixes the bug you can re-upload your module as a simple "package IO::Socket::INET6::Shlomi; use base "IO::Socket::INET6"; 1". It's not *ideal*, but we don't live in an ideal world. This is a pretty good solution, though. Regards, Jonathan Rockway

Re: Namespace for new perl (chess) module

2008-02-04 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ple will discover your module if it has good docs, so there's no need to worry too much about the name. Good code speaks for itself ;) (Who would guess that "Angerwhale" is blogging software or that "Catalyst" is a web framework? Hopefully nobody, but both have quite a few users.) Regards, Jonathan Rockway

Re: cpan-testers in the inbox

2008-02-11 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ling list. The cpan-testers mailing list is a mailing list that sends *every* cpan testers report; good for, say, irc bots that announce the results of testers reports live. Regards, Jonathan Rockway

Re: Removing or Archiving outdated and unsupported modules on CPAN; proposal

2008-04-02 Thread Jonathan Rockway
gument confuses me. You want to "archive" things. What is the difference between archiving something and not archiving it? You want two search sites, one for non-archived modules and one for archived modules. No offense, but that sounds like a waste of effort. > Does this sound like a reasonable, concrete and automatable > proposal? No, it sounds like an incoherent rant from somebody that knows nothing about the CPAN. Basically, it sounds to me like you're new to the CPAN. After you use it for a few years, you will learn how to find good distributions that will solve your problems. It's called "experience", and is something that only time can bring. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Removing or Archiving outdated and unsupported modules on CPAN; proposal

2008-04-03 Thread Jonathan Rockway
o use, I consider myself personally responsible for that problem. If I want a feature so badly, why don't I write it myself? (I think other people should consider adopting this attitude :) If they do, there will be more coding and less whining on mailing lists, which is always good.) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-05 Thread Jonathan Rockway
olbox. I think that is more valuable than comparing Text::Template and TT. Anyway, no need to worry about what I think. Just add yourself to Planet Perl and start writing. Instant access to 2000+ readers. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Changing the focus of the chronic CPAN problem

2008-04-05 Thread Jonathan Rockway
hat matter... but all the data gathering and analysis stuff is there. Patches welcome! Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Idea: CPAN Category Reviews

2008-04-06 Thread Jonathan Rockway
this thread. His stuff looks > really good. He pointed me to this (offlist): > > http://git.jrock.us/?p=MetaCPAN.git;a=blob_plain;f=HOWTO BTW, I meant for this to be public... but I didn't pay attention to where "Reply" sent the mail. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: shipping extra files in a dist?

2008-04-25 Thread Jonathan Rockway
so define a MY::postamble() for this task: > » http://use.perl.org/~Maddingue/journal/34682 > > Of course, Michael Schwern doesn't like such extensions for obvious > reasons ;-) There is also File::ShareDir which completely automates both installing extra files and then finding them once installed. (manually scanning @INC)-- Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Application Building

2008-04-25 Thread Jonathan Rockway
dit your file to hard-code the install path... I guess you could do that, but I've never seen anyone do that. Perhaps you are worrying a problem that doesn't exists? Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: "Maintainer mode"

2008-06-11 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ove -Ilib t/author" when I want to run the author tests. If I want multiple levels (t/*/*.t), then I put my author tests in t_author instead. It works well enough :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: "Maintainer mode"

2008-06-11 Thread Jonathan Rockway
#x27;JROCKWAY'/pod_coverage.t xt/!-e 'META.yml'/prerelease.t For extra kwalitee, don't forget to use strict and warnings: xt/use strict; use warnings; $ENV{PAUSE_ID} eq 'JROCKWAY'/pod_coverage.t xt/use strict; use warnings; !-e 'META.yml'/prerelease.t Yes, I'm kidding. :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Must exist, right?

2008-06-20 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ture, and even modify the class as you modify the data structure... but why?) > Or you could try Mouse? "use Squirrel"! Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Name space: throwing exceptions easily

2008-07-02 Thread Jonathan Rockway
plementation. For example, compare Moose to Class::Builder. Both are class builders, but the better-named one is *not* the one you want to use. I think Shakespeare said it best: What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet; The converse is also true. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Port to PyConstructs

2008-07-02 Thread Jonathan Rockway
essed files and image > formats. > A good name is needed. I thought about Parse::Binary, > Struct::Construct or something alike. I can't think of a good name right now, but the Data:: namespace may also be appropriate. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Name space: throwing exceptions easily

2008-07-03 Thread Jonathan Rockway
have names that make sense, however. "emacs" for editing text? "amarok" for playing music? "urxvt" for emulating terminals? "irssi" for chat? None of those names make any sense at all. So I don't feel like I'm alone in coming up with weird-ass nam

Re: Proposal: Test::Refcount

2008-07-14 Thread Jonathan Rockway
T; Considering B is core, there is probably no need for a module to do this. But, does this always return correct results? Does the svref_2object call affect the REFCNT? I am too lazy to check, but these are nice questions for the documentation to answer. If svref_2object affects its argument, then it's probably best to write a module that compensates for this behavior. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Proposal: Test::Refcount

2008-07-14 Thread Jonathan Rockway
s are the most common cause of memory leaks in Perl, and they're really easy to fix once you know about them. So a module that makes them easy to find would be very good for everyone :) Thanks for your work so far ;) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Exporter::Safe?

2008-07-18 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ut they should start. In the mean time, you can work around with something like: package Work::Around; use strict; use warnings; use Sub::Exporter -setup => { exports => [qw/foo bar/] }; use Broken::Module qw(foo bar); 1; Untested, but something like that. Regards, Jonathan Roc

Re: Integrating license related things of CPAN

2008-10-25 Thread Jonathan Rockway
e::Gnu, is my module GPL now? I don't know and I don't care. Does anyone else? Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Arrays in Config::General without resorting to copy/paste OR yaml

2008-10-29 Thread Jonathan Rockway
g keys that are long, it's simply a copy paste issue. Isn't > the a more comfortable way? > > These don't work either: > > linux, apache, mysql, perl > What is stopping you from post-processing this into the data you want? You are but a simple "split

Re: Arrays in Config::General without resorting to copy/paste OR yaml

2008-10-29 Thread Jonathan Rockway
return ... } Then if you have a .foo file, this code will run to load it. Totally untested, but something like this should work. BTW, I would just use YAML (or JSON) here. Config::General is one of the ugliest file formats I've ever seen, and it maps poorly to Perl. YAML is nice

Re: META.yml how to declare the need for threaded perl?

2008-10-31 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ot;; > exit 0; > } Probably off topic, but last time I tried Padre, I commented out all the references to threads (non-threaded perl here) and it worked fine. Maybe it doesn't really require threads? Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: META.yml how to declare the need for threaded perl?

2008-11-01 Thread Jonathan Rockway
quot;would", I mean "do": http://git.jrock.us/?p=Server-Stylish.git;a=summary ) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Specifying different bug trackers?

2009-01-27 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ou can even connect to it with SD and work on tickets offline. I find this much nicer than maintaining my own infrastructure. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Specifying different bug trackers?

2009-01-27 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Tue, Jan 27 2009, Andy Lester wrote: > On Jan 27, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > >>> Can I prevent people from opening tickets on rt.cpan,org. Does the >>> bugtracker item in META.yml cascade through to the front page of >>> search.cpan? >>

Re: RFC: String::Tagged

2009-01-30 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ior art for calling these "overlays": http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/elisp/html_node/Overlays.html BTW Padre folks, you should use this module :) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: ARGH!

2009-02-19 Thread Jonathan Rockway
;, but you shouldn't physically prevent access. It just wastes everyone's time, and doesn't make any code more maintainable. (Since I'll just have to cut-n-paste to work around it.) In general, whenever Java does something, you actually want the opposite. This case is no excep

Re: ARGH!

2009-02-20 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ows :) Fortunately, it's easy to remove all that brain damage anyway: http://search.cpan.org/~swalters/Acme-RightSideOutObject-0.01/lib/Acme/RightSideOutObject.pm Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Perl Critic and (honest) hash references

2009-03-03 Thread Jonathan Rockway
le data structures. That one really brings out the wackos.) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: "PBP Module Recommendation Commentary" and recent CPAN ratings spammings

2009-04-08 Thread Jonathan Rockway
will buy you a lot more than reading cpan-hatings or some wiki will. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- use strict; print join ' ', Just::, another::, Perl::, hacker::

Re: "PBP Module Recommendation Commentary" and recent CPAN ratings spammings

2009-04-08 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Wed, Apr 08 2009, Burak Gürsoy wrote: > Maybe you should learn to read first before replying anything. Maybe you should learn to write before "replying anything"? :) Seriously, though, do we really need to have a personal-attack-war? Let's make fun of Python instead!

Re: "a lot of controversy" about Module::Build

2009-04-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
ould this surprise anyone?) Admittedly, it would be nice if this process were easier, although I think using local::lib for development and PAR for deployment is a pretty good off-the-shelf solution. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: "a lot of controversy" about Module::Build

2009-04-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Thu, Apr 09 2009, Bill Ward wrote: > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: > > Most people I know compile one perl for each of their applications.  The > OS perl is for the OS, not for you.  (OK, and packages the OS installs. > Basically,

Re: "a lot of controversy" about Module::Build

2009-04-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Thu, Apr 09 2009, Bill Ward wrote: > How about you write a "how to manage Perl on your system" doc and get it into > the core > as a new perlxyz perldoc file then. That is a very good idea. Of course, the people that will update to a version of perl that includes this doc probably won't nee

Re: managing your perl

2009-04-13 Thread Jonathan Rockway
hout answering questions for them. (BTW, when I fix the perl build system, you will have to go way out of your way to ask the user stupid questions. No more "Are you sure you're sure you're sure that you want to install the MANDATORY modules [y]") Regards, Jonathan Roc

Re: New Module

2009-05-01 Thread Jonathan Rockway
27;s existence by explaining how it's different from other things. The other things are worth considering (the best code is code you didn't have to write), but if you don't like the existing stuff and you can't fix it, write your own. You don't need to be accountable to anyone b

Re: New Module

2009-05-02 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Sat, May 02 2009, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > * Jonathan Rockway [2009-05-01 19:15]: >> People will find your module, even if the name doesn't make >> sense. (Examples: Moose, Catalyst.) > > Yeah, if there are thousands of other programmers using a module, > the

Re: Arguments checker module

2009-05-06 Thread Jonathan Rockway
wear on the tab key.) Anyway, embrace modules. They are the reason to use Perl. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Help needed testing security of login module

2009-06-04 Thread Jonathan Rockway
. Assuming someone trying to break my password could get a million computers, it would take them about 665 years to try all possible 10-character passphrases. That puts breaking the encryption out of the range of governments, not just some punk that hacked your server.) Protecting your users pa

Re: lexical warnings question

2009-06-18 Thread Jonathan Rockway
lling scope, not the scope currently being compiled. I have a feeling that with some tweaking this will work, though, and would be interested to see if anyone has some insight here. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: module/script to clean up old files and prune empty directories

2009-07-02 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Thu, Jul 02 2009, Dana Hudes wrote: > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect You know, there is a header for this sort of thing. -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Suggestions for module name, BreadCrumb trail in Catalyst

2009-07-15 Thread Jonathan Rockway
e able to read the docs, the name is nearly meaningless. (I am going to start naming my modules after random numbers. "class b692705227284724f69510836aa8799e9e67 extends a8ee5d67c9fbfcdcd565b4b926154e2f58becbe8". OK, maybe not... ;) Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Optional Features and down-stream modules

2009-08-18 Thread Jonathan Rockway
andatory. If they can install my module, they can probably install anything it depends on. If not, they can send me a patch to split out the optional feature into a new distribution. But this has never been necessary. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: Access to bug queue

2009-08-19 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Wed, Aug 19 2009, sawyer x wrote: > What was the HOOO incident, if I may ask? Among other things, this: http://www.mail-archive.com/cpan-test...@perl.org/msg448605.html Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: How can I tell MakeMaker to insert "recommended" modules into META.yml?

2009-10-17 Thread Jonathan Rockway
st invoked "cpan -i" on... thanks for asking... To summarize: Optional requirements considered harmful. Regards, Jonathan Rockway -- print just => another => perl => hacker => if $,=$"

Re: How can I tell MakeMaker to insert "recommended" modules into META.yml?

2009-10-17 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Sat, Oct 17 2009, O. STeffen BEYer wrote: > In the meantime I found out when this META_MERGE tag works and when not: > > When I run a tool from the terminal which calls "make dist", > everything works fine. When I run the same tool from within a > cron-job, with stdout and stderr redirected (

Re: naming advice required

2009-11-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Fri, Nov 06 2009, Ryan Voots wrote: > On Friday 06 November 2009 14:09:47 brian d foy wrote: >> >> Is this something that would be useful outside of GitHub? Are you >> screen scraping or doing something special with git? >> >> I think a name might be Github::Fork::Parent, if this is only for >

Re: flame bait: execution speed Perl vs. C (Date::Calc::PP vs. Date::Calc::XS)

2009-11-20 Thread Jonathan Rockway
* On Wed, Nov 18 2009, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote: > * David Golden [2009-11-18 16:05]: >> So creating/destroying Perl objects -- even just for things >> like argument passing on the stack -- is part of the cost of >> the flexibility of Perl. When that becomes a bottleneck in >> a tight loop, that

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