Solaris studio 12.3 is coming out imminently (like, tomorrow or so): there is a
live webcast about it tomorrow 9AM PST.
Dana Hudes
You can't expect a native Windows Perl to install any XS module without a C
compiler compatible with the one that built Perl. Neither can you expect stuff
written explicitly for a unix environment to work. If you can get
Net::IP::Route::Reject to work on your Windows system I would be surpris
Dana Hudes wrote:
Actually while a port of gcc is available of Windows, that is not acceptable
for native Windows Perl. That has to be compiled by the MS compiler Visual
Studio C/C++.
There are many ports. MinGW can be used with MSVC-compiled Perl, because both compilers use the same runtime
Please define "not acceptable"... as according to this,
http://mingw-w64.sourceforge.net/,
project page, it is acceptable for Perl (5.12.0 and later) as well as
the Strawberry Perl Project.
So who is it not acceptable for? ;-)
FWIW... having tried strawberry, I wasn't impressed upon trying
Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 04:55:23PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
I have tried to get a hold of icc, you had to be a famous developer
or pay money -- I wanted to try it because it was said to do a much
better job of optimizing than the gnu compiler...
I was meani
Solaris Studio only requires payment if you want support and patches. It is
priced per developer not per machine. Free to download. It is optimized for
multicpu environment. On SPARC at least it does support autoparallelization
(loop unrolling an dispatch to threads on diFferent cpus, for exam
Actually while a port of gcc is available of Windows, that is not acceptable
for native Windows Perl. That has to be compiled by the MS compiler Visual
Studio C/C++. So too for Solaris: Even the OpenCSW project builds Perl for
Solaris with the native compiler Solaris Studio. The cygwin Perl i
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 06:20:22PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
> Having modules that are platform specific, should be either
> 1. ***minimally***, clearly labeled in descriptions, AND, CPAN
> should allow me to exclude modules that won't run on on the
> platform's i select.
This already ex
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 04:55:23PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
> I have tried to get a hold of icc, you had to be a famous developer
> or pay money -- I wanted to try it because it was said to do a much
> better job of optimizing than the gnu compiler...
I was meaning this "Non-Commercial Softwar
Started this, this morning before any of 'today's emails...just never
finished it..
Seems pertinent with the talk of alternate packages that only work with
alternate
compilers -- especially those that are limited in the platforms they
support (Gnu is on
Linux, Windows, Mac, Solaris, Irix, et
To download stuff from Oracle you have to register with them (free) and
agree to their license terms.
Download Solaris Studio from
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/server-storage/solarisstudio/downloads/index-jsp-141149.html
This is not just C/C++ it is also a Java compiler and Netbeans and IIRC
David Cantrell wrote:
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:42:30AM -0800, Linda W wrote:
David Cantrell joked:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:21:32PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
[[ What compiler on unix-- where perl was born
" liar liar pants on fire "
That's not what you wrote. No
Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:42:30AM -0800, Linda W wrote:
The assertion was that such a thing does not. It is is incumbent
upon you, who want to refute that
assertion to provide at least 1 example to disprove the general
assertion. Claiming it is a research
o
On Dec 5, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:42:30AM -0800, Linda W wrote:
>
>>
>>The assertion was that such a thing does not. It is is incumbent
>> upon you, who want to refute that
>> assertion to provide at least 1 example to disprove the general
>> a
What, no mention of LLVM/Clang? :-(
I have been meaning to try that myself.
I have also had great success using TCC (Tiny C Compiler) in the past,
which does x86 compilation.
Cheers,
Jonathan
On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Nicholas Clark wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:42:30AM -0800, Li
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:42:30AM -0800, Linda W wrote:
>
> The assertion was that such a thing does not. It is is incumbent
> upon you, who want to refute that
> assertion to provide at least 1 example to disprove the general
> assertion. Claiming it is a research
> opportunity (becaus
On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:42:30AM -0800, Linda W wrote:
> David Cantrell joked:
> >On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:21:32PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
> >>[[ What compiler on unix-- where perl was born
" liar liar pants on fire "
That's not what you wrote. Nor is it what I quoted.
> Or would you like to
David Cantrell joked:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:21:32PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
Dana Hudes wrote:
BTW not everyone uses gcc.
[[ What compiler on unix-- where perl was born, that is as freely available
as perl and the modules on cpan, itself would you suggest I use? ]]
O
On Sun, Dec 04, 2011 at 01:27:08PM +, Dana Hudes wrote:
> Finally, Perl runs on Windows. There are a number of Windows-specific Perl
> modules.
And don't forget that there are at least three different Windows
environments these days!
Win32, Cygwin, and "Interix" (what used to be Services Fo
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:21:32PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
> Dana Hudes wrote:
> >BTW not everyone uses gcc.
> What compiler on linux -- where perl was born, would you suggest?
Other compilers are available for Linux. I leave finding them as an
exercise for you. You will no doubt find it to be a h
Linux isn't the only widely supported unix. FrreBSD , NetBSD have their
adherents. Solaris is pretty widely used just not among consumers / desktops.
Then you have Mac OS X which isn't exactly unix but is unix-like in many
aspects (has a bash shell, you can use vi or emacs and of course perl).
Solaris Perl is compiled using the Sun C compiler since at least Solaris 8.
Once known as Forte now Solaris Studio.
IDK what Perl on Moc OS X is compiled with but suspect not gcc. A LOT of people
write Perl on Mac.
Not everyone runs Linux. It is completely legitimate to have CPAN modules which
Now see, here's an example, of my /usual/ writing style, when I take the
time to write things carefully, rather writing in a casual style:.. I said:
"I, too often confuse linux with Unix, as it's seems the only
largely supported and most freely available but I know it's not
the ent
Nicholas Clark wrote:
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:21:32PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
Dana Hudes wrote:
BTW not everyone uses gcc.
What compiler on linux -- where perl was born, would you suggest?
Perl 5 was developed on SunOS.
I don't know what platform Perl 1 was deve
Cc: module-authors@perl.org
Subject: Re: The CPAN Morass
Sent: Dec 1, 2011 5:25 PM
David Nicol wrote:
> I would like to nominate Linda W. for receipt of a full refund of her
> CPAN subscription fees.
Now, now, behave. :) Linda has a valid viewpoint. In the past, I myself
have spent too muc
On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 10:21:32PM -0800, Linda W wrote:
> Dana Hudes wrote:
> > BTW not everyone uses gcc.
> What compiler on linux -- where perl was born, would you suggest?
Perl 5 was developed on SunOS.
I don't know what platform Perl 1 was developed on.
Perl 1 was released in December 1987,
Bzzzt! Anachronism. I hereby retract my proposal to refund Linda W's fees.
Perl is, of course, four years older than Linux.
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 12:21 AM, Linda W wrote:
> What compiler on linux -- where perl was born, would you suggest?
>
Dana Hudes wrote:
I sympathize with the compiler errors. But its not acceptable to have someone
other than the maintainer decide to remove a contribution from CPAN
Who ever said anything about removing it?
Just move it out of the main index into an 'archival' section where
it
David Nicol wrote:
I would like to nominate Linda W. for receipt of a full refund of her
CPAN subscription fees.
Now, now, behave. :) Linda has a valid viewpoint. In the past, I myself
have spent too much time trying to figure out which of the plethora of
Mail modules I should be using. (Th
I would like to nominate Linda W. for receipt of a full refund of her
CPAN subscription fees.
I sympathize with the compiler errors. But its not acceptable to have someone
other than the maintainer decide to remove a contribution from CPAN unless it
is malware or is stolen property etc. Merely no longer working if it ever did
isn't cause. That is the point of the Kwality metric and th
I'm really not sure I understand your problem, it seems as if you are arguing
in circles. I think the responses pretty adequately covered everything.
CPAN's strength is it's simplicity: as someone (Eric?) said earlier, CPAN is
just a collection of files. You are free to use (or not use) the c
dhu...@hudes.org wrote:
I've mostly ignored all this but I will step in briefly.
I am the author of a few modules on CPAN. None of them are major. The
dependency of one on another module which has been broken for years means
that I get frequent e-mail that it fails its tests. There's nothing wro
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