Re: Fw: Re: mod_perl presence at OSCON (and other CONs) is at danger

2004-06-13 Thread Perrin Harkins
Dave Rolsky wrote: Uh, both Mason and TT have large active communities, lots of docs, books about them, code samples. I agree. There isn't much sense in writing a new toolkit from scratch when you look at the stuff on this page: http://perl.apache.org/products/app-server.html Many of these have

Re: Fw: Re: mod_perl presence at OSCON (and other CONs) is at danger

2004-06-13 Thread Dave Rolsky
On Tue, 8 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > My 2 cents is that mod_perl lacks an "established" application server/tookits > so for a serious web application, programmers have to rely mostly on the original > API to get the full benifit. While there sevearl great application tools like > mason, e

Re: Fw: Re: mod_perl presence at OSCON (and other CONs) is at danger

2004-06-08 Thread James G Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Occasionally, I thought we might start up with a new application server that >has features like these: 1) MVC model; 2) XHTML templates; 3) backend >programming based on XML (e.g. parsing parameters like STRUTS), so other >java, .NET applications can be translated as ea

Re: Fw: Re: mod_perl presence at OSCON (and other CONs) is at danger

2004-06-08 Thread modperl
It depends how to define "programming language". It seems more properly a comparison between php and Mason because mod_perl itself is the Apache API in Perl language. For newbies, this API is indeed hard to program with. My 2 cents is that mod_perl lacks an "established" application server/tookit

Fw: Re: mod_perl presence at OSCON (and other CONs) is at danger

2004-06-08 Thread Frank Wiles
Accidentally only sent this to Perrin. - Frank Wiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://frank.wiles.org - Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2004 16:53:48 -0500 From: Frank Wiles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Perrin Harkins <