Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread stefan
Roman Shaposhnik schrieb: >> Yes, I do refer to massive quality-loss I have observed in such an >> "encoder-stress-test". I can, if you wish, do this test again. >> > > That'll be *very* much appreciated (if not the tests themselves, > then just a complete recipe for reproducing your result

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread stefan
I am amazed. After 10 times DV re-encoding with ffmpeg, the file at a first glance looks like it was unaltered. WOW. I hardly believe that the Canopus DV-Codec can be that much better (*if* it is...). I will see that tomorow... cu Stefan

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Nicolas
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 11:08:20AM +0100, Linetec wrote: > ... > > > Example of the render pipe command: > > > yuvcorrect -v 0 -T INTERLACED_BOTTOM_FIRST | mpeg2enc -M 2 -v 0 -r 32 -4 > > > 1 -2 1 -D 10 -g 15 -G 15 -q 5 -b 9600 -f 8 -o % > > > > For one thing you could speed up the coding by d

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Nicolas Maufrais
BTW, here's what's written in the Cinelerra CV manual about exporting to mpeg2 using mpeg2enc: http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual/cinelerra_cv_manual_19.html#SEC257 Any comment appreciated. ;-) Nicolas. -- ~~ ~ BOYCOTT SUSE & NOVELL (C)(TM)(R

[Mjpeg-users] Motion vectors

2006-11-26 Thread Martin Samuelsson
Hello list! I'm pondering a little thingy, a video sequence recognizer. I've thought about looking for variations in luminance and/or chrominance in the image, but come to the conclusion that my TV providers, at least, have none or very little consistency in their settings when broadcasting the

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Nicolas Maufrais wrote: > BTW, here's what's written in the Cinelerra CV manual about exporting to > mpeg2 using mpeg2enc: > > http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual/cinelerra_cv_manual_19.html#SEC257 > > Any comment appreciated. ;-) Looks OK. I would alter th

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Martin Samuelsson
On Sun, 26 Nov 2006 19:41:35 +0100 stefan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I am amazed. After 10 times DV re-encoding with ffmpeg, the file at a > first glance looks like it was unaltered. WOW. Looks like this is going to make all parties happy. Good. :) /Sam --

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Nicolas Maufrais
On Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 11:40:13AM -0800, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, Nicolas Maufrais wrote: > > > BTW, here's what's written in the Cinelerra CV manual about exporting to > > mpeg2 using mpeg2enc: > > > > http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual/cinelerra_cv_manual_19.h

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Richard Rasker
Op zo, 26-11-2006 te 20:01 +0100, schreef Nicolas: > On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 11:08:20AM +0100, Linetec wrote: > > ... > > > > Example of the render pipe command: > > > > yuvcorrect -v 0 -T INTERLACED_BOTTOM_FIRST | mpeg2enc -M 2 -v 0 -r 32 -4 > > > > 1 -2 1 -D 10 -g 15 -G 15 -q 5 -b 9600 -f 8 -o %

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Jonathan Woithe
Hi Roman > > The very noticeable degradation comes about due to a bug in libdv which is > > used to do the encoding to DV from cinelerra. When I last looked into this > > about 2 years ago ffmpeg's DV codec wasn't as badly affected but it still > > wasn't great. AFAIK libdv is in deep maintenanc

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Jonathan Woithe
> PS: if you want to have the best video-quality you can get out of > cinelerra then export your projekt to a y4m-stream and a wav-stream > seperately and encode this with mpeg2enc and mp2enc (or if ac3 needed > with ffmpeg...). This is essentially what my revised workflow has been since early

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Jonathan Woithe
Roman > > > The very noticeable degradation comes about due to a bug in libdv which is > > > used to do the encoding to DV from cinelerra. When I last looked into > > > this > > > about 2 years ago ffmpeg's DV codec wasn't as badly affected but it still > > > wasn't great. > > hmm, great? Great

Re: [Mjpeg-users] DV analyzer tool / optimizing video rendering?

2006-11-26 Thread Jonathan Woithe
> There is the possibility that the field order was set incorrectly > by Cinelerra (it's happened in the past as I recall) and that you > were correcting it after the rendering. I have had some cases where the y4m stream coming out of cinelerra either specifies the wrong field or