Re: [Mjpeg-users] blockiness/splotches in dim scenes (revisited)

2004-05-26 Thread Dan Scholnik
On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 12:18, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > On Wed, 26 May 2004, Dan Scholnik wrote: > > > Doesn't the ' in Y' indicate that the digital data has been > > gamma-corrected to compensate for the nonlinear CRT response? In that > > I'd guess so - what does one get (Y or Y') when r

Re: [Mjpeg-users] blockiness/splotches in dim scenes (revisited)

2004-05-26 Thread Matto Marjanovic
>> Out of curiosity, does the noise of the uncompressed recording look >> worse in black frames than regular ones, or is it only after mpeg >> compression that things look bad? If the latter, than perhaps you want > > The latter. I see the blocks/splotches all the time in dark scenes.

Re: [Mjpeg-users] blockiness/splotches in dim scenes (revisited)

2004-05-26 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Wed, 26 May 2004, Dan Scholnik wrote: > Doesn't the ' in Y' indicate that the digital data has been > gamma-corrected to compensate for the nonlinear CRT response? In that I'd guess so - what does one get (Y or Y') when running a S-Video cable from a VCR to a Canopus box and

Re: [Mjpeg-users] blockiness/splotches in dim scenes (revisited)

2004-05-26 Thread Dan Scholnik
On Wed, 2004-05-26 at 00:40, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > > From what I have read the human eye is able to determine > > black/gray/white much better than colors. You can fool the eye with only > > Right - which is why we see the blocks/splotches in dark scenes. The > slight variations

Re: [Mjpeg-users] blockiness/splotches in dim scenes (revisited)

2004-05-25 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Tue, 25 May 2004, Bernhard Praschinger wrote: > > Would it make sense to have several 'regions' or 'bands' that have > > different thresholds? If the majority of the frame has a Y' around > > 20 +/-4 use a "-t 8", if it's centered about 28 +/- 4 then a "-t 6", > >

Re: [Mjpeg-users] blockiness/splotches in dim scenes (revisited)

2004-05-25 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo > I'm sure you've all see the blocks/splotches in dim/dark scenes - it's > especially noticeable when fades from or to black occur. > > No, I'm not hot on the trail of a new filter - but the visible blocks > during dark and fade scenes is very annoying and I'

Re: [Mjpeg-users] blockiness/splotches in dim scenes (revisited)

2004-05-24 Thread James Macropol
On Sun, 2004-05-23 at 16:09, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > What's a good metric for determining the "brightness" of a frame? > Compute a histogram of the Y' values and see if there's a big cluster > below a specified threshold (such as 32)? For example, this is a > histogram

[Mjpeg-users] blockiness/splotches in dim scenes (revisited)

2004-05-23 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Hi - I'm sure you've all see the blocks/splotches in dim/dark scenes - it's especially noticeable when fades from or to black occur. No, I'm not hot on the trail of a new filter - but the visible blocks during dark and fade scenes is very annoying and I'm not sure