Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Harpalus a Como wrote: I'm just a lurker on the OpenBSD list, but I think Charles is right about Linux. The code is better then people give it credit for, and considering it's vast popularity and what all it's accomplished, the "bazaar" model has worked wonders. I'm not advo

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Constantine A. Murenin wrote: On 31/08/06, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Just a stupid comment, but ... Linux is one kernel, multiple distributions ... BSD is, what, 4 kernels now? If we worked more together instead of as seperate camps, it migh

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Gilles Chehade wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: I doubt that'll be productive -- NetBSD, FreeBSD and OpenBSD have all different goals... Even at the kernel level? Look at device drivers and vendors as one example ... companies like adaptec have to write *one* d

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Miod Vallat wrote: I'd rather have Adaptec provide a source code driver for their cards directly, then have Scott Long have to fight with unavailability of documentation itself ... if the driver works, what do we need documentation for? To fix the driver. If the vendor i

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Pedro Martelletto wrote: On Thu, Aug 31, 2006 at 06:50:00PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Even at the kernel level? Look at device drivers and vendors as one example ... companies like adaptec have to write *one* device driver, for, what, 50+ distributions of linux

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Miod Vallat wrote: If the vendor is supporting the driver, and working with the community, then one would hope that they would also fix the driver as bug reports come in about it ... That's too many ifs to be realworld-compatible. And actually the only vendors I can think

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Jason Dixon wrote: If everyone had your attitude, there would be no *BSD. Settling for "good enough" means never making progress. Who ever said "settling for good enough"? I know I didn't ... if I settled for "good enough", I would have stuck it out with Linux years ago

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Gilles Chehade wrote: mmmh ... you've got a point ... you just opened my eyes ... documentation is pointless when I have a blackbox doing the work. Maybe I'm missing something, and if so, I do apologize to those on these lists that I may have offended ... but ... having cl

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Jeff Rollin wrote: On 01/09/06, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: so, should I then switch to Linux because they do welcome 'vendor written drivers'? If by 'vendor-written drivers' you mean binary-only drivers, then no, t

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 1 Jan 1970, Gilles Chehade wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: On Fri, 1 Sep 2006, Gilles Chehade wrote: mmmh ... you've got a point ... you just opened my eyes ... documentation is pointless when I have a blackbox doing the work. Maybe I'm missing something, and if so, I do

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-31 Thread Marc G. Fournier
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, davide zanon wrote: The reason why merging is impossible or stupid has been said some million times... Different goals. I'm curious here, but why did the *kernel* diverge for each project? Like, I understand (or think I do) the philosophy of the OpenBSD project, and that

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-09-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
updated yet ... are there any others? Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-09-09 Thread Marc G. Fournier
out the newest version, which adds 'jitter' ... :) Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664

BSDStats 4.0 - You need to upgrade ...

2006-10-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Apologies for the multi-list post, but I've been receiving several requests from varous *BSD users about this, so figured I'd hit everyone in one fell swoop ... First, for those that aren't aware, back in August, after some lengthy discussions on the FreeBSD mailing lists, I built a script that i

Looking for HowTo instructions ...

2006-10-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
Can someone that has installed BSDstats on your server please email me instructions on *how* to install it for your flavor of BSD? I do not believe that either OpenBSD or NetBSD has a 'periodic' system similar to FreeBSDs, and would like to put something up on the site explaining how to install

Re: Looking for HowTo instructions ...

2006-10-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
--On Sunday, October 01, 2006 22:04:05 -0400 Jeremy Huiskamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 1-Oct-06, at 9:28 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote: Can someone that has installed BSDstats on your server please email me instructions on *how* to install it for your flavor of BSD? I do not believ

Re: Looking for HowTo instructions ...

2006-10-01 Thread Marc G. Fournier
* running on their machine ... --On Sunday, October 01, 2006 22:51:35 -0400 matthew sporleder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 10/1/06, Marc G. Fournier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Can someone that has installed BSDstats on your server please email me instructions on *how* to install

Re: Looking for HowTo instructions ...

2006-10-04 Thread Marc G. Fournier
--On Tuesday, October 03, 2006 06:57:31 +0200 Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote on Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 10:28:34PM -0300: Can someone that has installed BSDstats on your server please email me instructions on *how* to install it for your flavor of BSD? I

BSDStats Report for December 1st, 2006

2006-12-03 Thread Marc G. Fournier
.. and we look forward to seeing increases on subsequent months ... - Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.org

BSDStats: Status Report

2010-05-25 Thread Marc G. Fournier
) France 169 (popular: PCBSD) For more information on the project, please visit http://www.bsdstats.org The sites includes basic instructions for installing / running on the various *BSDs ... If you have any problems, please let me know ... ---- Marc G. Fournier