Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 11 Jun 2017, Donald Allen wrote: > On 11 June 2017 at 19:16, Davor Balder wrote: > > They are not everyone's cup of tea, but I use a tiling window manager > with OpenBSD (I like xmonad, but there are other choices: dwm, i3, > awesome; there's also spectrwm, written originally, I believe, by >

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Solène Rapenne
Je 2017-06-12 07:45, Rupert Gallagher skribis: On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Davor Balder wrote: xfce is available and you should be able to use mac-like shortcuts there. I think this relates to your chaoice of window manager/desktop environment. We have choices! Using xfce already, but

Re: smtpd "relay as" not working as expected

2017-06-12 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
Hello, fivering...@yahoo.com.au (Steve), 2017.06.07 (Wed) 15:23 (CEST): > Hello, > If I include : > accept from local for any relay as "@domain.com" > in smtpd.comnf on 6.1 release the reply to address is rewritten as > u...@domain.com but the from address is left as u...@host.domain.com. > Do

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-06-11, Asbel Kiprop wrote: > Hello > After todays update my Dokuwiki just throw 500 error "There is no suitable > CSPRNG installed on your system". Googled a bit and found out it because i > have no /dev/urandom in my basedir, > And this kinda obvious cuz i have httpd chrooted by default >

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-06-11, Theo de Raadt wrote: > Also, you could "cp /etc/passwd urandom" and it will work fine > also! It won't in this case. They're using ParagonIE's random_* compat library which was written by someone with a functioning brain.

Re: blank screen

2017-06-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-06-11, tomr wrote: > > On 06/11/17 11:53, lvdd wrote: >> On Sun, 11 Jun 2017 09:42:15 -0600 >> "Theo de Raadt" wrote: >> is somebody messing with the graphics stack by any chance? >>> >>> It is probably rude to call steps-being-taken-toward-progress "messing" >>> >>> >> >> I am s

Re: ocsp response not current

2017-06-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-06-12, jungle boogie wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm attempting to fetch the latest bsd.rd snapshot, but it's failing > because of the ocsp response. > > $ ftp https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/bsd.rd > Trying 129.128.5.191... > Requesting https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/sn

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Re: iridium Nice try, but my FF scores much better results. I will dig into iridium's source next weekend. R

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Donald Allen
On 12 June 2017 at 03:02, Anthony Campbell wrote: > On 11 Jun 2017, Donald Allen wrote: >> On 11 June 2017 at 19:16, Davor Balder wrote: >> >> They are not everyone's cup of tea, but I use a tiling window manager >> with OpenBSD (I like xmonad, but there are other choices: dwm, i3, >> awesome; th

Re: re0 and re1 watchdog timeouts, and system freeze

2017-06-12 Thread Mike Belopuhov
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 15:11 +1000, David Gwynne wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 07:19:34PM +0200, Bj??rn Ketelaars wrote: > > On Fri 09/06/2017 12:07, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > > > On 08/06/17(Thu) 20:38, Bj??rn Ketelaars wrote: > > > > On Thu 08/06/2017 16:55, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > > > > > On

Re: re0 and re1 watchdog timeouts, and system freeze

2017-06-12 Thread Björn Ketelaars
On Mon 12/06/2017 15:11, David Gwynne wrote: > On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 07:19:34PM +0200, Bj??rn Ketelaars wrote: > > On Fri 09/06/2017 12:07, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > > > On 08/06/17(Thu) 20:38, Bj??rn Ketelaars wrote: > > > > On Thu 08/06/2017 16:55, Martin Pieuchot wrote: > > > > > On 07/06/17(We

Re: Boot issue 6.1

2017-06-12 Thread Donald Allen
On 12 June 2017 at 01:14, Davor Balder wrote: > Hello Martin, > > It may be worth upgrading from USB just in case... Adding to this (good) suggestion. I would download the install61.fs image and check it with sha256 against the 6.1 sha256 file to be sure the bits arrived intact. Possible explana

Re: blank screen

2017-06-12 Thread Mihai Popescu
> is somebody messing with the graphics stack by any chance? Too much linux mailing list reading will eventualy distort your language.

Re: dokuwiki - /dev/urandom issue

2017-06-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2017-06-12, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2017-06-11, Asbel Kiprop wrote: >> Hello >> After todays update my Dokuwiki just throw 500 error "There is no suitable >> CSPRNG installed on your system". Googled a bit and found out it because i >> have no /dev/urandom in my basedir, >> And this kinda

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Shazaum
of course Soul_of_Root On 06/09/2017 04:39 PM, SOUL_OF_ROOT 55 wrote: > Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

Re: ocsp response not current

2017-06-12 Thread jungle Boogie
On 12 June 2017 at 03:28, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2017-06-12, jungle boogie wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I'm attempting to fetch the latest bsd.rd snapshot, but it's failing >> because of the ocsp response. >> >> $ ftp https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/bsd.rd >> Trying 129.128.5

OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Context: A windows 10 pro client connects to openbsd nfs shared folder using username and password on the openbsd system. /etc/exports contains /exports/Shared -mapall=nobody:shared [client-ip] permissions: drwxr-xr-x root wheel exports/ drwxrwxr-x nobody staff exports/Shared/ user is a member

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Raul Miller
create and delete here is based on directory permissions. edit is presumably based on file permissions. That said, generally speaking, windows permissions are incredibly complex and (as a result) mostly ignored. [There will be a few people who will deny this, but as a general rule most people den

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Eric Johnson
On Sat, 10 Jun 2017, G wrote: > I would say it depends. > > 1. What are your requirements > > -Do you need to propriety programs like Skype? > Skype don't run on openbsd It looks like Skype can be used from Chrome as an extension added from the web store. I haven't tried it. Telegram works on

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
Errata: > /etc/exports contains > /exports/Shared -mapall=nobody:shared [client-ip] Correction: /exports/Shared -mapall=nobody:staff [client-ip]

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Eric Johnson
On Sun, 11 Jun 2017, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > I spent yesterday and today installing 6.1 from scratch on a Dell > Optiplex gx620. The machine has a pentium 4 @3.0GHz with 4GB non ECC > RAM, returning a passmark of 354*. The aim is to replace the > accountant's windows 10 pro tomorrow morning, mo

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
On problem 2, if a user has group write permission on a folder, it has permission to write its own files and those of same group membership in that folder, provided the group permission is set on the file by its owner. If a file belongs to me and I deny write permission to group and other, then

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
... a security problem. Sent from ProtonMail Mobile

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Raul Miller
Ok, look... Your problem 1: all windows files are executable because the windows model for executable or not is proprietary and not supportable. It's also not clear why you should care about this in a shared directory. Your problem 2: if we assume that a shared directory (rather than user specifi

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Raul Miller
p.s. if you do not want windows files in that shared directory to be executable, I think you can mount the nfs backing store partition noexec. I haven't tested this, though - I mostly try to avoid networked file systems. Thanks, -- Raul On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Raul Miller wrote: > Ok

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Marcus MERIGHI
eri...@colossus.gruver.net (Eric Johnson), 2017.06.13 (Tue) 12:23 (CEST): > > > On Sat, 10 Jun 2017, G wrote: > > > I would say it depends. > > > > 1. What are your requirements > > > > -Do you need to propriety programs like Skype? > > Skype don't run on openbsd > > It looks like Skype can be

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
I think the problem is how windows mounts the nfs folder by default (right click on "this computer" then select to attach a network folder to a drive letter). The following article by Microsoft describes the mount option "fileaccess" to set a default umask: https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Shteryana Shopova
On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Marcus MERIGHI wrote: > eri...@colossus.gruver.net (Eric Johnson), 2017.06.13 (Tue) 12:23 (CEST): ... >> > >> > -Do you need to propriety programs like Skype? >> > Skype don't run on openbsd >> >> It looks like Skype can be used from Chrome as an extension added

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread Mihai Popescu
> I'd suggest installing a "User Agent Switcher" I'd suggest installing Windows and since it is not an OpenBSD issue, let M$ deal with that.

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Raul Miller
You have a very odd idea of "security". Probably though, this is the wrong mailing list for what you are trying to do. Good luck, -- Raul On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 2:27 PM, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > I think the problem is how windows mounts the nfs folder by default (right > click on "this com

Re: OpenBSD as a non-routing access point

2017-06-12 Thread Comète
Hi, I had the same problem with 6.1 on Alix 2D13 boards, I've created a bridge0 interface with vr0, vr1, vr2 and athn0 (the wireless one configured in hostap mode) but no ip address was given to any of the wifi connected devices by my dhcp server. However, all the computers linked with an ethe

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread flipchan
I run mine with xfce works great On June 12, 2017 7:45:13 AM GMT+02:00, Rupert Gallagher wrote: >On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Davor Balder >wrote: > >> xfce is available and you should be able to use mac-like shortcuts >there. I think this relates to your chaoice of window manager/desktop >

Re: Can I use OpenBSD as a desktop system?

2017-06-12 Thread G
Yes I though about it but I didn't care that much. My webcam don't work on openbsd anyway. Can you make video calls? On 06/12/17 22:55, Shteryana Shopova wrote: > On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:26 PM, Marcus MERIGHI wrote: >> eri...@colossus.gruver.net (Eric Johnson), 2017.06.13 (Tue) 12:23 (CEST): >

Battery runtime on Thinkpad x240

2017-06-12 Thread Ruben Hohndorf
TL;DR How in your experience is the battery runtime of the thinkpad x240 on current compared to Linux with TLP? Dear OpenBSD devs and users, I am using OpenBSD for most of my servers since around 5.6 now and I absolutely love it. However, I have not used OpenBSD on a notebook so far. Now that I

inquiring about setting wxallowed on /home mountpoint

2017-06-12 Thread Josh Stephens
I am currently trying to use virtualenv in my home directory to setup different python environments but was met with the following error [Errno 13] Permission denied. This happened using both virtualenv and virtualenv-3. After looking through /var/log/messages I found that the problem was caused b

Re: inquiring about setting wxallowed on /home mountpoint

2017-06-12 Thread Theo de Raadt
> So my question is, will there be any security implications that I > should be concerned about with setting wxallowed in /etc/fstab to the > home mountpoint? Yes there is a security implication. From mount(8), wxallowed Processes that ask for memory to be made writeable

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Rupert Gallagher
If a non-root user can delete a root owned file with read-only permissions, then there is a security problem. Good luck to you if you are thinking otherwise. The windows nfs umask solves the problem of writing files to both user and group. It certainly does not solve the above security problem.

Re: inquiring about setting wxallowed on /home mountpoint

2017-06-12 Thread Josh Stephens
>> So my question is, will there be any security implications that I >> should be concerned about with setting wxallowed in /etc/fstab to the >> home mountpoint? > > Yes there is a security implication. From mount(8), > > wxallowed Processes that ask for memory to be made writeable >

Re: OpenBSD NFS: Windows 10 writes wrong uid

2017-06-12 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 01:24:19AM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > If a non-root user can delete a root owned file with read-only permissions, > then there is a security problem. Good luck to you if you are thinking > otherwise. This is not how unix permissions work. The directory permissions

Re: inquiring about setting wxallowed on /home mountpoint

2017-06-12 Thread Janne Johansson
2017-06-13 7:29 GMT+02:00 Josh Stephens : > >> So my question is, will there be any security implications that I > >> should be concerned about with setting wxallowed in /etc/fstab to the > >> home mountpoint? > > > > Yes there is a security implication. From mount(8), > > Turn it off and accept t

Re: bgp-spamd added 192.43.244.163

2017-06-12 Thread Markus Rosjat
just a short head up, 192.43.244.163 got added to the 666 community again if anyone ist wondering why mails from the list dont show up. regards -- Markus Rosjatfon: +49 351 8107223mail: ros...@ghweb.de G+H Webservice GbR Gorzolla, Herrmann Königsbrücker Str. 70, 01099 Dresden http:/

X on thinkpad x270 - "Inappropriate ioctl for device"

2017-06-12 Thread Pau
Hi: I recently got an x270 at work. It is very nice and I hope to be able to use OpenBSD on it. Fortunately, the latest snapshot supports the wireless card via iwm0 (thanks!). em0 shows the error about "Unable to initialize the hardware". I guess this will be fixed in upcoming snapshots (and

Re: bgp-spamd added 192.43.244.163

2017-06-12 Thread Peter Hessler
I don't see that on either server. Can you send me the output of "bgpctl show rib detail 192.43.244.163"? Is it actually coming from a different list? On 2017 Jun 13 (Tue) at 08:00:05 +0200 (+0200), Markus Rosjat wrote: :just a short head up, : :192.43.244.163 got added to the 666 community aga