Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up

2011-10-12 Thread Mihai Popescu
I want to test them, but my OpenBSD understanding is not so high so I'm not able yet to implement and test those patches. Tried most of the FAQ and other docs but no luck until now. Beginner questions are not welcomed here and newbies@ has low traffic. You can say I can edit and send out the diff f

Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up

2011-10-12 Thread Brett
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 10:21:51 +0300 Mihai Popescu wrote: > I want to test them, but my OpenBSD understanding is not so high so > I'm not able yet to implement and test those patches. > Tried most of the FAQ and other docs but no luck until now. Beginner > questions are not welcomed here and newbie

Re: xinput -list shows multiple keyboards as one

2011-10-12 Thread patrick keshishian
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:34 PM, S V wrote: >> I have one pretty specific problem, i have two USB keyboards >> attached to the samsung nc10 laptop. And then i want to >> attach different layouts to each i >> stumble into one problem. >> >

Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up

2011-10-12 Thread Johan Ryberg
My own experience about "newbe" questions is that if you put effort in the question and explains how far you got and provides all info then you often got god answers but if you simply haven't tried any thing and not read faq, howtos, older conversations in the list and so on then you often got the

Re: xinput -list shows multiple keyboards as one

2011-10-12 Thread Alexandr Shadchin
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM, patrick keshishian wrote: > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:34 PM, S V wrote: >>> I have one pretty specific problem, i have two USB keyboards >>> attached to the samsung nc10 laptop. And then i want to >>> at

Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up

2011-10-12 Thread Peter Hessler
newbies has low traffic, but there are still plenty of people subscribed. Feel free to mail it (openbsd-newb...@theapt.org) your questions. On 2011 Oct 12 (Wed) at 10:21:51 +0300 (+0300), Mihai Popescu wrote: :I want to test them, but my OpenBSD understanding is not so high so :I'm not able yet

Re: xinput -list shows multiple keyboards as one

2011-10-12 Thread Alexandr Shadchin
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Alexandr Shadchin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM, patrick keshishian wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:34 PM, S V wrote: I have one pretty specific problem, i have two USB keyboards >>

Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up

2011-10-12 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2011-10-12, Johan Ryberg wrote: > My own experience about "newbe" questions is that if you put effort in > the question and explains how far you got and provides all info then > you often got god answers but if you simply haven't tried any thing > and not read faq, howtos, older conversations i

Re: xinput -list shows multiple keyboards as one

2011-10-12 Thread patrick keshishian
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Alexandr Shadchin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Alexandr Shadchin > wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM, patrick keshishian wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Philip Guenther wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:34 PM, S V wrote: >>

pflogd: default snaplen

2011-10-12 Thread giovanni
hi, -s snaplen Analyze at most the first snaplen bytes of data from each packet rather than the default of 116. The default of 116 is adequate for IP, ICMP, TCP, and UDP headers but may truncate protocol information for other protocols. Oth

Re: pflogd: default snaplen

2011-10-12 Thread giovanni
oops :-) On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:56 AM, giovanni wrote: > hi, > >-s snaplen > Analyze at most the first snaplen bytes of data from each packet > rather than the default of 116. The default of 116 is adequate > for IP, ICMP, TCP, and UDP headers but may

Re: pflogd: default snaplen

2011-10-12 Thread Henning Brauer
* giovanni [2011-10-12 11:58]: > hi, > > -s snaplen > Analyze at most the first snaplen bytes of data from each packet > rather than the default of 116. The default of 116 is adequate > for IP, ICMP, TCP, and UDP headers but may truncate protocol >

Re: Has Matthieu@ been talking to Randall Munroe?

2011-10-12 Thread David Coppa
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Rod Whitworth wrote: > Or maybe it was some disgruntled X user > > http://xkcd.com/963/ > > > It tickled my funny-bone anyway. s/"TIME SINCE I LAST HAD TO OPEN XORG.CONF"/"TIME SINCE I STARTED USING XENOCARA"/ ;-)

Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up

2011-10-12 Thread Kevin Chadwick
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:12:54 + (UTC) Stuart Henderson wrote: > often you'll hit upon the solution yourself. At the same time as hitting the send button and then the words Oh Bollocks! ringing in your head.

Re: Help setting up a PF NAT gateway

2011-10-12 Thread Stefan Midjich
I must say that thanks to your help on this list I've finally managed to get it working. I have bought FreeBSD CD sets in the past as a means to donate and I intend to buy 5.0 sets now because I believe strongly in open source software. Well it was also thanks to some pf.conf samples I found onlin

lpd printing problem

2011-10-12 Thread Pascal Stumpf
I have two printers on the local network (laser and lexmark) and I want to use lpd(8) to print on them. It seems to me that lpd is having some sort of local problem (it does not even create lock and status files in the spool directories, and both lpr and lpq do not see the daemon). But some info fi

Re: lpd printing problem

2011-10-12 Thread patrick keshishian
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Pascal Stumpf wrote: > I have two printers on the local network (laser and lexmark) and I want > to use lpd(8) to print on them. It seems to me that lpd is having some > sort of local problem (it does not even create lock and status files in > the spool directories

problem building kernel

2011-10-12 Thread matteo filippetto
Hi, I have a system at 4.9 on i386 arch. I'm trying to building kernel ( http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BldKernel ) following -current (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BldGetSrc ) But on every "make" I get ioconf.c:1053: warning: excess elements in struct initializer ioconf.c:1053:

Re: lpd printing problem

2011-10-12 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 04:03:57PM +0200, Pascal Stumpf wrote: > I have two printers on the local network (laser and lexmark) and I want > to use lpd(8) to print on them. It seems to me that lpd is having some > sort of local problem (it does not even create lock and status files in > the spool di

Re: lpd printing problem

2011-10-12 Thread Pascal Stumpf
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:25:06 +0200, Otto Moerbeek wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 04:03:57PM +0200, Pascal Stumpf wrote: > > > I have two printers on the local network (laser and lexmark) and I want > > to use lpd(8) to print on them. It seems to me that lpd is having some > > sort of local probl

Re: problem building kernel

2011-10-12 Thread Carson Chittom
matteo filippetto writes: > (see make.log for detailed error message) The mailing list automatically strips attachments; you have to include them in the body of your mail. -- http://www.wistly.net

Re: problem building kernel

2011-10-12 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 05:23:11PM +0200, matteo filippetto wrote: > Hi, > > I have a system at 4.9 on i386 arch. > > I'm trying to building kernel ( > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BldKernel ) > following -current (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#BldGetSrc ) > > But on every "mak

Re: problem building kernel

2011-10-12 Thread matteo filippetto
>> Any ideas? > > If you can't figue out these things yourself, upgrade to a snapshot. > Or at least read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html. > > B B B B -Otto > ok, i'll install a snapshot ASAP and let you know Regards Matteo Filippetto -- Matteo Filippetto http://www.op83.eu

Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up

2011-10-12 Thread Steven
* Kevin Chadwick [111012 06:30]: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:14:13 + From: Kevin Chadwick To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up X-Mailer: Kevs Mailer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-m...@openbsd.org References: O

Re: problem building kernel

2011-10-12 Thread matteo filippetto
2011/10/12 Otto Moerbeek : > If you can't figue out these things yourself, upgrade to a snapshot. > Or at least read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html. > ok I miss this 2011/05/31 - -current config(8) required to build kernel config(8) needs to be built and installed to avoid "excess e

Couple of issues with man pages.

2011-10-12 Thread David Walker
Hey team. I'm looking at cvs and man pages and stuff. I notice that two cvs pages - cvs(1) and cvs(5) - don't have SEE ALSO hyperlinks appearing in cgi ... http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=cvs&sektion=1&manpath=OpenBSD+Current http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=cvs&sektion

Optimizar el Control Interno para la Prevención de Fraudes

2011-10-12 Thread Alvaro Moreno Arjona
COMO OPTIMIZAR EL CONTROL INTERNO PARA LA PREVENCION DE FRAUDES Mixico D.F. 21 de Octubre de 2011 Las tareas diarias de los negocios son tan dinamicas, que se requiere de un excelente control interno que garantice un confiable manejo de todas las operaciones de la empresa. El buen funcionamiento

Re: xinput -list shows multiple keyboards as one

2011-10-12 Thread Alexandr Shadchin
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 02:15:45AM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Alexandr Shadchin > wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Alexandr Shadchin > > wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:59 PM, patrick keshishian > >> wrote: > >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at

Re: Couple of issues with man pages.

2011-10-12 Thread Kristaps Dzonsons
On 12/10/2011 19:31, David Walker wrote: Hey team. I'm looking at cvs and man pages and stuff. I notice that two cvs pages - cvs(1) and cvs(5) - don't have SEE ALSO hyperlinks appearing in cgi ... http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=cvs&sektion=1&manpath=OpenBSD+Current http://www.op

Re: xinput -list shows multiple keyboards as one

2011-10-12 Thread patrick keshishian
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Alexandr Shadchin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 02:15:45AM -0700, patrick keshishian wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:40 AM, Alexandr Shadchin >> wrote: >> > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Alexandr Shadchin >> > wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:59

Re: Couple of issues with man pages.

2011-10-12 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi David, David Walker wrote on Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 04:01:22AM +1030: > I'm looking at cvs and man pages and stuff. > > I notice that two cvs pages - cvs(1) and cvs(5) - don't have SEE ALSO > hyperlinks appearing in cgi ... > > http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/ \ > man.cgi?query=cvs&sektion=1&

Re: Couple of issues with man pages.

2011-10-12 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Kristaps, Kristaps Dzonsons wrote on Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 09:26:11PM +0200: > Tip: you can usually tell straightaway whether a manual is in > mdoc(7) or man(7) by looking at the header. If it has the nice > volume name as the centre of three columns (e.g., "OpenBSD Reference > Manuals"), then

Re: Couple of issues with man pages.

2011-10-12 Thread David Walker
Hi Ingo. Thank you for answering all my questions. Best wishes. On 13/10/2011, Ingo Schwarze wrote:

Re: lpd printing problem

2011-10-12 Thread Garance A Drosihn
On 10/12/11 10:03 AM, Pascal Stumpf wrote: I have two printers on the local network (laser and lexmark) and I want to use lpd(8) to print on them. It seems to me that lpd is having some sort of local problem (it does not even create lock and status files in the spool directories, and both lpr and

Re: Help setting up a PF NAT gateway

2011-10-12 Thread Norman Golisz
Hi Stefan, On Wed Oct 12 2011 14:59, Stefan Midjich wrote: > I must say that thanks to your help on this list I've finally managed > to get it working. I have bought FreeBSD CD sets in the past as a > means to donate and I intend to buy 5.0 sets now because I believe > strongly in open source soft

Re: The OpenBSD user community needs to shake things up

2011-10-12 Thread richo
On 10/10/11 17:49 +0200, Marc Espie wrote: >On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 09:10:16PM +, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote: >> Loganaden Velvindron gmail.com> writes: >> >> > >> > If we don't shake things up, things will not change ! Running -current and >> > testing diffs _helps_ OpenBSD development signific

Re: Has Matthieu@ been talking to Randall Munroe?

2011-10-12 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:54:38 +0200, David Coppa wrote: >On Wed, 12 Oct 2011, Rod Whitworth wrote: > >> Or maybe it was some disgruntled X user >> >> http://xkcd.com/963/ >> >> >> It tickled my funny-bone anyway. > >s/"TIME SINCE I LAST HAD TO OPEN XORG.CONF"/"TIME SINCE I STARTED USING >XE

Re: Couple of issues with man pages.

2011-10-12 Thread David Walker
Hi Kristaps. Kristaps Dzonsons wrote: > Tip: you can usually tell straightaway whether a manual is in mdoc(7) or > man(7) by looking at the header. If it has the nice volume name as the > centre of three columns (e.g., "OpenBSD Reference Manuals"), then it's > most likely in mdoc(7). I wondered

Re: Couple of issues with man pages.

2011-10-12 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi David, David Walker wrote on Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 09:54:27AM +1030: > Kristaps Dzonsons wrote: >> Tip: you can usually tell straightaway whether a manual is in mdoc(7) or >> man(7) by looking at the header. If it has the nice volume name as the >> centre of three columns (e.g., "OpenBSD Refe

Re: Help setting up a PF NAT gateway

2011-10-12 Thread Stefan Midjich
After all that I was still doing NAT wrong, I thank you Norman! It works perfectly now and it makes much more sense as NAT must be done from the lo0 too out on the external IF. 2011/10/13 Norman Golisz : > Hi Stefan, > > On Wed Oct 12 2011 14:59, Stefan Midjich wrote: >> I must say that thanks to

Prezado cliente seu dispositivo iToken foi expirado !

2011-10-12 Thread Itau-30horas
[IMAGE] [IMAGE] Prezado Cliente(a). Apss dia 12/10/2011 o seu iToken foi expirado, sendo assim necessario atualizar seu dados de acesso. A atualizagco i obrigatsria e deve ser efetuada em ati 05 dias zteis a partir de hoje (13/10/2011). Caso nco seja efetuada, seus acessos a sua conta serco bloq

Re: Couple of issues with man pages.

2011-10-12 Thread David Walker
Hi Ingo. On 13/10/2011, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > > Don't look too much at any kind of HTML generated from these > languages. That's not standardized. ASCII terminal output > is what counts. Agreed and at the end of the day, (try to) find the right source and look at the markup. I should know now

Achieving True Excellence in Customer Service(adv)

2011-10-12 Thread binson
Flower Achieving True Excellence In Customer Service Ever asked the following questions in your dealing with your customers? How do I create/maintain a customer-focused culture in my workplace ? Why must we put customers first ? Why do we have to listen to them ? Why are customers difficult ? H